OK gun owners of the US I would like to ask a small question. Before I do I would say I am from the UK and not pro-gun, but that has little to do with the question. I agree it is not a gun that kills someone it is the owner. I just think it makes it easier for someone who is that way inclined to kill someone with such easy access to guns. Anyways.... I am currently having a spat lower down the thread with a guy who I believe is from the US and possibly a gun owner who honestly believes that more people are killed here in the UK each year with baseball bats than are killed in the US with a gun. I mean there is no reasoning with the guy. I thought he might be a troll but i'm not so sure. I was just wondering how many other people would believe this so called fact? Disclaimer: please refrain from flaming this person if you happen upon our conversation, this is simply to see if others think the way he does. Edit: Also I know this is slightly off topic but is of interest and I think is in the general contexts of some of the discussions being had.