[b]UPDATE January 7th: Because this is still getting a lot of views and the original was essentially a rant, I've replaced it with a much easier to follow outline of the bug. Bungie comments and responses are located at the bottom. A (kind of) workaround is included.[/b] [b]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/b] [b]What is the bug?[/b] * Reduces the available ammo of a given weapon or weapon type. [b]How long has this been around?[/b] * Since game launch. [b]When does it trigger?[/b] * Death (technically, respawning AFTER death). * Going to orbit. * Returning from orbit. * Cutscenes. [b]What makes it trigger?[/b] * Any item with the buff to increase the amount of ammo you can carry of a particular type. * Rocket launchers with a bonus to tube size as a perk. [b]Methods I have used to test.[/b] * Equipping the item / using a synth and killing myself. * Gathering ammo legitimately and killing myself. * Multiple death types (suicide/jumping off cliffs and NPC death). [b]Results of testing[/b] * With items this has reduced ammo 100% of the time, without them it has never reduced ammo. This is not an intermittent bug, it is extremely easy to reproduce and should be a priority to fix. *All tests were performed with the items of the type equipped then tested again without them. Each test has been performed at maximum ammo capacity and at varying levels of ammo. Results did not change.* [b]Items I have personally tested with and witnessed the bug[/b] * Lucky Raspberry (Heavy ammo increase) * Crest of the Alpha Lupi (Special ammo increase) * Hezen Vengeance (Tube size increase from 2 to 3) * Iron Regalia Boots (Increases scout rifle ammo) * Various other items with the same buffs. Results unchanged and the above are my 'go to' testing set. [i]Update post-DLC - I have retested with Dark Beyond armor. Bug still exists[/i] [b]Ammo types I have tested and seen reduced[/b] All of them. [b]Workaround[/b] * Items with the 'Field Scout' perk turned on are not effected by the bug - this seems to only work for certain weapons. I have not found a rocket launcher that it works for. * The actually loss of ammo seems to occur when you spawn/are revived. Therefore if you have time (such as dying in a hard mode raid) then you can avoid losing ammo by switching out the items that provide the buff before you are ressed. [b]Other observations[/b] * With rocket launcher tube size increase, the ammo drops until you are down to 2 (thus the bonus isn't active) * With special/heavy increases the ammo drops until 1 rocket/minimal machine gun ammo * With primary ammo it seems it only drops to a certain amount then stops, however when you respawn in any situation it seems you are given a certain amount of primary ammo to start with. This seems to be the threshold and is possibly just offsetting the bug. No way for me to confirm this. [b]This bug has been acknowledged by Deej on the bungie forums in the past.[/b] Link: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/78765696/0/0/1 Text: [quote]Yeah. Known bug. Unsure of status. I see you leaving a lot of good feedback on this forum, though.[/quote] [b]After I posted the above on Reddit, Deej did again reply, offering the following:[/b] Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2ousck/3_months_after_launch_dlc_out_all_new/cmrczc1 Text: [quote]As you have indicated in your original post, this is a known bug. I have no update on it's status. I'm sorry that you think we don't care. The fact of the matter is that I don't have any new information to provide at this time.[/quote] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~