[b]UPDATE January 7th: Because this is still getting a lot of views and the original was essentially a rant, I've replaced it with a much easier to follow outline of the bug. Bungie comments and responses are located at the bottom. A (kind of) workaround is included.[/b]
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[b]What is the bug?[/b]
* Reduces the available ammo of a given weapon or weapon type.
[b]How long has this been around?[/b]
* Since game launch.
[b]When does it trigger?[/b]
* Death (technically, respawning AFTER death).
* Going to orbit.
* Returning from orbit.
* Cutscenes.
[b]What makes it trigger?[/b]
* Any item with the buff to increase the amount of ammo you can carry of a particular type.
* Rocket launchers with a bonus to tube size as a perk.
[b]Methods I have used to test.[/b]
* Equipping the item / using a synth and killing myself.
* Gathering ammo legitimately and killing myself.
* Multiple death types (suicide/jumping off cliffs and NPC death).
[b]Results of testing[/b]
* With items this has reduced ammo 100% of the time, without them it has never reduced ammo. This is not an intermittent bug, it is extremely easy to reproduce and should be a priority to fix.
*All tests were performed with the items of the type equipped then tested again without them. Each test has been performed at maximum ammo capacity and at varying levels of ammo. Results did not change.*
[b]Items I have personally tested with and witnessed the bug[/b]
* Lucky Raspberry (Heavy ammo increase)
* Crest of the Alpha Lupi (Special ammo increase)
* Hezen Vengeance (Tube size increase from 2 to 3)
* Iron Regalia Boots (Increases scout rifle ammo)
* Various other items with the same buffs. Results unchanged and the above are my 'go to' testing set.
[i]Update post-DLC - I have retested with Dark Beyond armor. Bug still exists[/i]
[b]Ammo types I have tested and seen reduced[/b]
All of them.
[b]Workaround[/b]
* Items with the 'Field Scout' perk turned on are not effected by the bug - this seems to only work for certain weapons. I have not found a rocket launcher that it works for.
* The actually loss of ammo seems to occur when you spawn/are revived. Therefore if you have time (such as dying in a hard mode raid) then you can avoid losing ammo by switching out the items that provide the buff before you are ressed.
[b]Other observations[/b]
* With rocket launcher tube size increase, the ammo drops until you are down to 2 (thus the bonus isn't active)
* With special/heavy increases the ammo drops until 1 rocket/minimal machine gun ammo
* With primary ammo it seems it only drops to a certain amount then stops, however when you respawn in any situation it seems you are given a certain amount of primary ammo to start with. This seems to be the threshold and is possibly just offsetting the bug. No way for me to confirm this.
[b]This bug has been acknowledged by Deej on the bungie forums in the past.[/b]
Link: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/78765696/0/0/1
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[quote]Yeah. Known bug. Unsure of status. I see you leaving a lot of good feedback on this forum, though.[/quote]
[b]After I posted the above on Reddit, Deej did again reply, offering the following:[/b]
Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2ousck/3_months_after_launch_dlc_out_all_new/cmrczc1
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[quote]As you have indicated in your original post, this is a known bug. I have no update on it's status. I'm sorry that you think we don't care. The fact of the matter is that I don't have any new information to provide at this time.[/quote]
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Yes this needs to be fixed already.
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Yes please fix this... I've also noticed that my heavy ammo goes down 1 every time I die...
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This needs to be fixed. Bump.
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Bumping this. Plz prioritize a fix on this.
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Still waiting bump
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Have they ever said it was a bug? Or is it working as intended?
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Its not a bug -.-
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Edited by loonigus: 1/19/2015 7:33:21 AMThe boots from Crotas raid on every class have the same issue. Also you always lose a give percentage of the ammo after a death. Lets say you have 7 rockets for the Ghorn. First death = 5 left, second death = 3 left and so on up to 0. Annoying as fuk on a raid.
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Never :(
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I'm kind of getting tired of having no heavy ammo every time I turn on the game. Using so many synthesis it's ridiculous. And the fact that the synthesis doesn't even work all the time is even worse.
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Why is this still a thing bungie
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Why shouldn't this be a bug and not jus yet your punishment for dying. You know just saying that the perks are for living guardians not dead ones.
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Bump. FFS please fix this. I know Bungie will most likely ignore and never fix some of their past -blam!--ups (VoG glitches anyone?), but please don't ignore this one.
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Ahh so that's what happens. I just assumed my guardians liked firing rockets out of their space ships or sold them for crack whilst I wasn't looking.
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This bug actually started right after they patched the Crucible heavy ammo exploit. Either way, needs to be fixed
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[b][i][u]BUMP[/u][/i][/b]
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Bump.
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Sad bump