[b]MAJOR UPDATE:[/b]
Deej responded to me calling his attention to this thread in another thread. http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/76633207/0/0
It will probably get buried rather quickly because every time he posts, 1000 replies follow.
Deej
[quote]You weren't ignored. I read that.
The point that Harold was making was that, when someone plays a game for 100 hours, you learn a lot. We've obviously created something you want to play. It's very obvious that you want to talk to us about how it can be better. When we stay focused on game feedback, good things can happen.[/quote]
[b]EDIT: Please read the article I linked to before posting. I have been accused of taking his statement out of context, which I do not feel I did at all, and I want to make sure that no one feels like I mislead them. [/b]
[quote]Harold Ryan: It's so broad. When I read a lot of the feedback, and I see it's after playing for 100 hours, it's hard not to couch that in, well if you played the game for 100 hours... What other game do you play for 100 hours, right?[/quote]
This is not grounds for dismissing our feedback like you suggest. I'm calling you out. What games do we play for more than 100 hours? Since you don't seem to know of any, please allow me and my fellow gamers to educate you.
Fellow Bungie.net users, please feel free to add to this list and/or tweet away @Bungie or @Destiny your ideas about how many other games you can put more than 100 hours into. I'll start.
Morrowind
Oblivion
Skyrim
Any CoD game
Mass Effect 1 - 3 (I logged 400 hours on ME3's MP alone)
Dragon Age
Borderlands 1
Borderlands 2
Any Battlefield game (I personally have logged over 1200 hours between BF3 and BF4)
Any Halo game
Any Guitar Hero or Rockband
Diablo 1-3
Star Wars: KoToR 1 & 2
There are many more. [b]MANY. MORE.[/b]
[u]From responses to the OP:[/u]
1943
2048
Ace Combat 5
Aces High 2
Act Raiser
Advanced Wars series on GBA, DS & emu 2000+ hours over a decade of play
Age of Empires (series)
Aion
Alpha Protocol
America's Army 2
Angband
Angry Birds
Anno 2070 (with and without the A.R.R.C. mod)
APB
ArmA 2 & 3
Assassin's Creed (series)
Baldur's Gate 1 & 2
Batman Arkham series
Battle Cats
Battle chess
Battle of the immortals
Battlefield (series)
Bejeweled
Bioshock 1 and 2
Bladestorm
Bloody roar(ps1)
Blue Dragon
Body Harvest
Borderlands series - I have no clue how long, but long…
Brave Frontier
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire 3
Buck Rogers Countdown to Doomsday
Burnout Paradise
C9
Call of Money, Black holes II
Candy Crush (LOL!!!!!)
Castle Crashers
Charades
Checkers
Chrono Trigger (SNES, PSX, DS)
Chutes and ladders
City of Heroes/Villains
Civilization III, IV, V including expansions, DLCs and mods
Civilization Revolution (console and app)
Colony Wars 1-2
Command and Conquer
Commander Keen
Contra
Cornhole (Yep, that's right)
Crash Bandicoot
Crimson Skies
Crystal Saga
Curse of the Azure Bonds
Cursed Treasure 2
Dance Dance Revolution (series)
Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight
Darksider 1 & 2
DayZ
DBZ Budokai (series)
Dead Island
Dead or Alive
Deadpool
Dead Rising
Dead Space - I put 100 hours into the first game alone
Defenders of the Crown
Defiance
Demon souls, dark souls, dark souls II - well over 900 hrs
Deus Ex
Devil May Cry
Diablo
Digimon World Dusk
Doom and Doom 2 (oddly not 3)
DOTA 1 And 2
Dr. Mario
Dragon Age
Dragon Realms
Dragon Warrior
Duck Hunt
Dungeon Defenders
Dynasty Warriors 5
E.T.
Earth defense force - any
Earthbound
The Elder Scrolls (series)
Elsword
EVE Online
Everquest
The Evil Within (Just started 2 weeks ago)
Excelsior
Eye of the Beholder Series
Fable series
Fallout 3
Fallout New Vegas
Far cry (including 3 but not limited to 3) - 250 hrs
Farmville
Fate of Resonance
Faxanadu
FIFA
Fight Night Champion
Final Fantasy (any ever made)
Fire Emblem Sacred Stones & Shadow Dragon
FlyFF
Football Manager
Forza (series)
Free Lancer
Freespace 2
Frogger
Gary's Mod +/- 400 hours
Gauntlet dark Legacy
Gears of War (series)
God of War (all)
Golden Sun
G-Police
Gran Turismo 1 & 2
Grim Dawn
GTA series (including Chinatown wars) - 300 hrs
Guild Wars 2
Guitar Hero/Rockband (series)
GunZ online
Half-Life and the games in the Orange Box
Halo (series)
Hang man
Hearts
Heroes of Might and Magic 5
Heroes of Newearth
Hopscotch
Horseshoes (this too)
Hungry hungry hippo
Infamous
Ivan Stewart's baja 1000
James Bond: Golden Eye
James Bond: The World is Not Enough
Journey (Atari 2600)
J-RPG (any)
Just Cause 2
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom of Amalur Reckoning
Kingdom Rush 1 & 2
Knights & Dragons over 150+ hours(iOS game)
League of Legends
Leap frog
Left 4 Dead
Legend of Mana
Lego Batman
Lego Rock Raiders
Lego Star Wars (all)
Life
Link
Little Big Planet (each of them)
Lord of the Dragons (Roughly 1850+ hours over 2 years)
Lost Odyssey
LOTR: Twin Towers the game (that co-op mode was fantastic!)
Madden games (any especially older versions)
Maple Story
Mario 64
Mario Party (console and portable)
Mario galaxy 1 and 2
Mario Kart 64
Marvel VS capcom
Mass Effect (all) OH MY GAWD YES
Masters of Orion and MOO2
MechWarrior 2-4
Medal of Honor
Medal of Honor: Frontline
Mercenaries 1 & 2 (which I just ironically realized has a better story than destiny, which is sad)
Meridian 59
Metal Gear series
Metro 2033 and last light - 100-125 hrs
Mickey Thompson’s Off Road Racing game (name eludes me)
Minecraft (sheesh does this guy live in a box?)
Minesweeper
Monopoly
Monster Hunter
Monster rancher
Mortal Kombat (series)
Mount & Blade
MUDs (a couple, don't remember the names, easily logged hundreds of hours into both getting to tri av or SAV status)
Mutant League Hockey
Myself
NCAA football (multiple)
Need For Speed (series)
Neverwinter series
Ninja Gaiden
Path of Exile
Perfect Dark
Phantasy Star Online 1 & 2
Pinball (that one that came with windows)
Pitfall
Planescape: Torment
Pokemon (any)
Pong
Pools of Darkness
Pools Of Radiance
Portal 1/2
Punchout
Quebert
Ragnarok online 1 & 2
Rainbow Six 3: Ravenshield
Rainbow Six Vegas
Raptor
Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal (those guns!)
Red Alert (and subsequent expansions)
Red Alert 2 (and subsequent expansions)
Red Dead - 200 hrs
Red Faction
Resident Evil 5
Rift
Rise of Nations
Risk
Rogue
RUA series(rainbow unicorn attack)
Runescape
Rush N' Attack
Saints Row
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
Sega- sonic games, aladdin, jungle book, nba jam
Shadow of Mordor
Shadowrun (Genesis, SNES, and 360)
Shaia
Shin Megami Tensei games
Sid Meier's Pirates!
Silkroad
Sim City
Smite
Snake
Snake Rattle & Roll
Socom games - 300 hrs
Sonic (1 & 2)
Sorry
Soul Caliber series
Soul Edge
Soul Sacrifice
Space Invaders
Spades
Splatterhouse
Splinter Cell series
S.T.A.L.K.E.R series (with and w/o mods) - 1500 hrs at least
Star Ocean 2
Star port
Star Wars
Star Wars KoToR 1 & 2
Starcraft
Street fighter ex plus
Streetfighter 2
Streets of Rage1-2
Super Mario (1-3)
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. All-Stars
Super Smash Bros.
Supreme Commander and its expansion pack Forged Alliance (expansion that actually added shit tons of new content) well over 100 hours each.
Symphony of the night
Syndicate (original)
Taboo
Tales of Vesperia
Team Fortress 2
Tecmo Super Bowl
Tekken
Tera
Terraria
Terror from the Deep
Tetris
The Last of Us
The Legend of Dragoon
The Settlers (series)
The Witcher 1 & 2
Tic tac toe
Tiddlywinks
Tie Fighter
Titanfall
TMNT (arcade version)
Torchlight 2
Total Dark
Toukiden
Trivial pursuit
Twisted Metal
Twisted metal series
Two Dots
UFO enemy unknown
Ultima Online
Vagrant Story
Vendetta Online
Vindictus
Viva Piñata (Yes, really.)
Walking Dead The Game (potentially stretching it here - maybe 50 hours?)
War Thunder
World of Warcraft
Warframe
Warhawk
Watch Dogs
Wild arms
Wing Commander Series
Wolfenstein (the old one)
Wonderboy in Monsterland
World of Tanks
Xcom: Enemy Unknown and the expansion Enemy Within (also omfg yes)
Xenosaga games
X-Wing
Yugioh capsule monster coliseum
Yugioh duelist of the roses
Yugioh Forbidden Memories
Zelda (series)
Zone 66
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Edited by Pango ds: 11/1/2014 8:46:15 PMTo give a comparison. I've played 12 hours on Shadow of Mordor and am 16% through. The equivalent of that on Destiny I was on the Mars missions and I messed about/idled in the tower for a while. That's the difference between the lack of content on here to SoM. SoM I haven't done some of side stories as well so there is even more content that will put it well through 100 hours. The combat system on there well advanced compared to point and press Destiny. They revenge stuff is cool and the cut scenes and I haven't even played PvP yet. SoM is basically the game I was hoping Destiny would be. That and Halo will be keeping me going through to the new year at least and probably with dlc's beyond.
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I've played hundreds and hundreds of hours of cornhole and horseshoes.
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I have literally 3 years worth of time in runescape RUNESCAPE
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Edited by grimtooth: 11/1/2014 8:44:13 PMI am currently running a test program for a AAA title with over 500 player/tester and the folks we look for to join said program have over 200 hours in the game with at least 3000 matches under their belt. If you are going to write off the players that have the most time in your game then you have a disconnect problem with your player base that will damage your game in both the short and long run.The other pat is the title I work for right now just did a major update and it took less than 30 minutes to download the whole 3.92gigabytes on a standard comcast cable modem. Most people that do the digital downloads of a game normally take 30 minute to and hour and a half to complete the process so there is another thing to think on. I figured I would just toss that out there.
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I was having a laugh with a few folks I work with and we decided to look a little more into what old Mr. Ryan had to say publicly VS a few vetted truths on Bungie. Now to work for Bungie you have to have worked in the industry and have a solid track record working on AAA titled game that have shipped or have a hard to get skill set they need. you can check this out by using the tab to the left of you screen and look toward the bottom where is says more and then click on careers. Now having said that Mr. Ryan said that he was couching thing people said after seeing that player have 100 or more hours in the game. I am not sure of Mr. Ryan's reasons for saying this but I have tested many games in 30 years and in the last 15 I have helped set up a lot of test program for a few of those companies that have done AAA title and done them very well and the one thing we looked at before bringing a tester into any of those programs was how much time the person had playing the game. The people you want giving feedback both good and bad are the one with the most time playing the game. So either Mr. Ryan is not a competent leader by anyones standards in the industry including Bungie or he has other motives for says what he did in the interview. And yes I did go over it a few time just to make sure I missed nothing. The truth will come out at some point when a disgruntled bungie employee decides to post a bunch of inter office memos showing why we got screwed, till then I will still play this with my friends till some of the other titles launch ( not COD) later this year like many other people I know and they will migrate away with their money for greener pastures to play in and will not look back and destiny. Just a thought from someone who has been around for awhile. Oh, and I have see all the stuff on the disk they left out and that makes Mr Ryan's statement as sincere as a harlot's kiss.
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Are you still adding games to the list while I am slowly(stuff pulled me away from my phone at work) tweeting each game individually to them? I will never finish tweets at this rate haha
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Harold you got owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Chrono Trigger I have played that game hundreds of hours on each release (SNES, psx, NDS) Why? Because the story is compelling. I absolutely love replaying that game, grinding hours to max STATS so that I'm more effective against enemies, solo killing Lavos 5 minutes into the story just to see one of 13(?) Different story endings
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I'm excited that they are working on the latency issue
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Lost Odyssey
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Team fortress 2 Do I need to explain why?
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This guy gets it. But not Harold. He doesn't.
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Every game I have ever had and I really don't want to try to list them. Even the games I did not like I still put effort into them before trading them in on another one
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2000 hours on gw2 across 4 level 80's.
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NHL 2000-14 (15 isn't all that appealing to me. But I've probably got 20 hours in it.)
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Can someone please send me a Xbox live trial code please, destiny is getting really dull now that mine expired, I will help with vault of glass or strikes....... just some one please help.
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Bump!
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This is beautiful keep it up. I will add Saints Row series, Dead Island, Dead Rising series, Left 4 Dead, Fallout ( all of them, can't wait to play 4!), Half Life 1 & 2, Infamous ( all again, I replay them from time to time), the Batman Arkham series ( I enjoyed all of them), Metal Gear Solid, Legend of Zelda, many more hours in lots of other games. Those are just the tip of the iceberg and I could go on forever like that list. This article just proves how they don't listen to feedback or have any clue what they are doing. I am dropping the game after reading this. Time spent in game doesn't equate to enjoyment level. Ffs it takes just that long to get to play the end game first go through, and this makes him sound like a joke. Just because you have a cool job title, doesn't mean you know anything. He stepped in it this time people haha. I wish he would take some feedback from the fans because he sounds like he needs a reality check as does a lot of the gaming industry tbh.
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Translation: "We have your 60 bucks. You've already paid us, why the hell should we care what you say after we have your money?"
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Half of these games would not constitute 100 hours
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Bump. I myself have well over 1000 hours in the Monster Hunter games, I average out at about 350+ hours per game. I've got over a hundred in the Dragon Age games, Mass Effect games, Batman Arkham games, Shin Megami Tensei games, Guild Wars, WoW, Legend of Zelda games, Infamous games, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, and many more. Those games provide me with what I want and need, and don't over promise things, with exception to the last fifteen minutes of Mass Effect 3, and the futility of your actions in DA2. Time spent playing should feel like it is worthwhile, and a long playtime doesn't mean there is no room for improvement in a game. Bungie will learn that eventually.
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The final fantasy series, ratchet and clank series, soul caliber series, dark souls series, mortal kombat series, Pokemon series, elder scrolls series, assassins creed series, fallout series
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"Splinter cell series" beat them all on xbox, beat them all on GameCube, beat them all on ps3 remastered, easily clocked in over 1000 hours on those games. Resident Evil 4. It's still better than 99% of the games I play now. I've beaten it at least 15 times. GameCube, ps2, ps3 HD, ultimate HD on PC. Final Fantasy (how you could you put destiny playtime above ANY FF game?) Legend of Zelda. All console versions and handheld versions. Best game series ever created and if bungie thinks they have a chance of touching it they should quit now. I love destiny, but I would go play OoT or Twilight Princess or Minish Cap or a link to the past anyday
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Edited by FireflyPunk: 11/2/2014 2:59:54 AMMan, I read that whole interview and it doesn't sound like Harold knows what the -blam!- Destiny should be. Reads like another leader that didn't listen to his team and can't admit when he made a wrong turn. No seriously team, Quikster and The Netflix streaming price doubling will be totally cool. This will [i]totally work[/i]. What? Backlash? The fans will [i]eat this up[/i]. 3.2 million a day. We're rock solid. Can't do any wrong. Thorn Bounty being a good example!? Wow. Just wow. No wonder all the talent left the studio. And this list proves he has his head squarely up his ass. What games do you play for 100 hours? A shit ton of them. [i]Tons[/i], provided they have the content to keep people engaged. Sayonara Bungie. It was nice knowing you, before all the douchery.
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Any monster hunter game, easily put 250 hours into mh3u
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Edited by grimtooth: 11/2/2014 6:01:51 AMyou can add in the first MMO RPG for console that was done right, everquest online adventures by Sony for the PS2. They can look at that to see what a good console MMO is all about and the time sink it was. Before the first expansion my group of four people had over 500 hours in the game.