You'll be reading and have been reading but its pretty obvious to the community that it doesn't matter that much. The dev team has its own agenda and there is no connection between what we say and what is done to the game. Preventing Atheon from falling I can understand and I somewhat agree. However, its not like people are using cheats. No. They are using the AI and their own character abilities to win against a boss. I also feel that saying that the random teleport was a fix is a bit offensive towards the community. You fix mistakes. It was not a mistake. It was simply a mechanic of the Raid that people figured out and that you didn't expect to happen. Because the community was inteligent enough to figure it out, you deem it a mistake and needing of a fix. What needed a fix was the issue of miss teleports. Of how for example, people can get teleported into different worlds or even when two people are teleported only, etc etc. Fixes are needed when the relic doesn't work as it should. Or how you can kill the oracles and still be killed by them. And many other things. Those are mistakes, bugs, etc that need a fix. I've said this many times: I like Destiny. But Destiny is obvious, doesn't like me. Teams can beat the Raid in hard mode and in the end get a sparrow or a ship. "Oh, yes...a legendary loading screen". How rewarding for a weeks worth of grinding and fighting. I'd give suggestions but what is the point? Explain to me, DeeJ, whats the point of the so much desired feedback? It falls on deaf ears and hallow minds. The community rises and makes their voice clear. A voice you aknowledge. We oppose the Random selection of team members for teleports. We give our reasons. Logic,. Objective. You reply saying "We hear you" and then label the issue a fix...as if we were exploiting the game's mechanics. We cracked it. Quite different from exploiting it. It was another piece of the puzzle "who goes inside the portals?". Randomizing everything will kill this game. Loot is ridiculous. You grind grind grind grind grind at level 28 to get 1 blue drop in a sea of 200 green boot drops. You end a 4 or 5 hours raiding experience only to get a shader and a quircky loading screen. You cna be the best in a crucible match and get nothing or be the worse and get a legendary. Fix those issue. Make the experience more rewarding and people will come back. Keep it as it is, and people will not. I said I wouldn't but I can resist. Give the rewards for Raiding and Nightfall a similar loadout as it has for the weekly strike: - X EXP points - X Strange Coins - X Ascendant Materials - 3 Blue Engrams - 2 Legendary Engrams - 1 Exotic Engram - 1 Raid Engram (raid items only: weapons or armor exclusive to engram) - 1 Random loot Because, I dunno if someone has noticed but you advance more in the game by doing the daily 3 times each day, then the 2 weekly things 3 times a week than you do in doing the raid 3 times per difficulty. And sorry DeeJ but for something that is supposed to be so epic and what not, thats ridiculous. Hope you listen and all but I know it won't change anything. Sadly enough, you're doing this wrong. I just hope the team won't regret how they are leading the game forward in the near future. But I have a feeling they will.

Deej... why? I'm honestly disappointed in you. Not you, Deej... but you, as in Bungie. I've played through Halo 1, 2, 3, ODST... every Halo. I've been supporting you guys so long, but Destiny is a major let down. Not just for me, and you know this. Thousands, probably over a hundred thousand people, are disappointed in you. Seriously, what has happened? You guys give us a great game, yet you focus on all this little stuff. Congratulations, Atheon can no longer be pushed and players are randomly teleported. Told us this would happen a couple weeks ago, and it FINALLY happened. You know what you could have been doing all that time? Fixing this gosh forsaken game. There are so many things we should have, yet we don't. Why not focus on perfecting the DLC? Why not focus on fixing OP guns to balance the crucible? Mostly, why not ADD to the Crucible? Remember Halo? You know, that game where people LOVED the PvP? If you haven't understood yet, it's because it sucks ass on Destiny. I'm sorry, but it does. There is so little option, and what is given, is just bad. What ever happened to CTF? What ever happened to KOTF? Oddball? Infection? WHAT HAPPENED?! Honestly Deej, I wish I could help you guys... but this can only be fixed by you. No matter what we, the community, the people that make what you do worth it by buying your games do... this can only be fixed by you, Bungie... and you only. And before you say something like "Your feedback has been noted," just stop. I've heard that enough. Knock off the act and give us back what we used to love... give us Bungie.

I just did the hard raid with a group of 6 lvl 30's. Atheon really wasn't an issue but a group of only lvl 29's might find it impossible.

You know Deej, the first time I fought Atheon I thought the teleporting was random. We all did. We also didn't know what to do when we got teleported and wiped...and wiped, and wiped,and wiped until we had alomost lost hope of clearing the final boss. It was a pain in the ass and a headache that lasted for hours. But, the results of those countless deaths was what was special. Everytime we wiped and reset we had a little more experience and knowledge of what was going on. We started to learn the ins and outs of the hardest challenge we've ever faced. But, what really got us going and made us come together as a [i]team[/i] was learning that Atheon teleported the players farthest away. That is when we started to devise a [i]strategy[i] that included splitting up in groups of three, based on who was good at what, to yeild the best results. The end result felt rewarding and, most importantly, fun. This portion of the raid required the most teamwork than any before. Now, when the raid was first released, Bungie themselves put an emphasis on the immense amount of strategy and teamwork required to finish it. They used those points as the main reason why no match making could be implemented. I fail to understand how randomizing things will force better teamwork than a mechanic that could be used to our advantage. Randomness is no representation of skill. It would most likely make it a little more challenging, but at what cost? Remember, the first team to finish the raid did it in 12 hours. This was done by the organized and quite skilled guys at Prime Guard. A mission that takes that long complete the first time around by a team of that magnitude is quite challenging enough. But, a quick look at their videos shows they went through the same learning process and applied tactics stated earlier using teamwork to get through it. Randomizing things will relinquish that kind of teamwork. I believe that the telportation during the Atheon fight should be reverted back to how it was before. The previous method required more teamwork and strategizing than the newly implemented one. We were able to apply our skills in ways not possible with being randomly teleported. Deej, i hope you listen to this criticism and bring attention to the developers on this matter. Thank you and thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this.

It's not unplayable, and I'm very excited to try the new encounter with my core group; people who calmly communicate, don't often talk over each other, and are willing to put in the effort to get good at each part of the encounter, including relic. Just talking about that team makes me want to play with them. But please fix Templar exploit. I've been using it many times and I don't want the temptation anymore. I do think the raid should be as hard as core players are able to go, and this increase brings that closer.

*points towards the obese elephant in the room that's still being ignored* Story. Still ignored. Cryptarch fixed. Sorta. Random impossible event bounties. Must wear rank 2 gear the day it started.... what? Stability issues fixed. Sorta. Weapons fixed. Nope. Events fixed. They occur more often, sure. Raid fixed. Enemies now have the same baby bumpers that players do. K. Hold my pocket for this guided tour. Destiny was sold on potential. I hope that Bungie will get back to its roots and focus on developing the games of their dreams. While Destiny is loaded with tons of heart, the follow up "fixes" since release have felt incredibly empty. I don't know what your meetings are really like DeeJ, but from the outside looking in, there's a break in the chain between community and developers.

Make the raid worth the effort. Almost 20 runs through the raid and two armor drops. Its not worth it. You resolve these bugs that we saw as perhaps part of the puzzle you intended us to solve. Instead you see it as a bug that needs immediate attention. Without resolving pre-existing bugs, ie: invincible minotaur, glitching outside the containment bubble and instantly dying, etc. That's just to name a few. Before you try to "fix" the raid, actually fix the raid. I wont pay to beat my head against the (content) wall, I can do that at home for free. Hell, I'll probably get more out of it too. The short and skinny of it is that your driving away casual and hardcore players alike. We want to love this game. But we also want the game to show us a little love too from time to time. No one wants to be the needy one in the relationship. Either you dump, or you get dumped. I want to stick around for the long haul. But my patience is paper thin right now. I'll be around long enough for Dragon Age to come out. If things aren't better, I'll be off playing an actual RPG.

How about an update about these jackolantern deals you gave us???