Tomorrow Land has both camping AND dancing... I'm just saying. It's Woodstock for this generations flower children. On a serious note, for everyone hating on "campers" I'll throw down. Using your radar is indeed a tactic. Let's face it, you're probably sprinting with a shotgun, so sitting with a shotgun isn't any more cheesy. Use the tools Bungie game you. If you get corner shotguned (honestly not a tactic I've tried), that means you went solo sprinting into a room without clearing it. Stay with your team. Enter rooms together and clear corners. I know that still enemies vanish from radar, that's why I'm always weary about going into an "empty" room. I take my time. This may be why Rambo is not the Titan vanguard... If you think radars are lame fine petition for a no radar "hardcore" CoD style mode where they're gone. For now, they're here to stay so you have to adjust to players that are using them to their fullest. In this case, using the 3rd person thing is a bit different. I'll have to give it some thought.