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Edited by Superiority: 10/29/2014 4:21:42 PM
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Deej: The truth, critical thinking, and final argument.

I have watched this video in its entirety. I realize it is long, but unlike pro Destiny/Activision rhetoric, the truth is a little more complex, and you not taking the time to understand what is going on is what they are counting on. What we have here is the ultimate anti-fanboi argument. Contained in this video is every thing we critical thinkers have been trying to express, only to be freight trained by the deluded masses. The masses: those of us who have successfully been indoctrinated by the [b]Lord of Profiteering[/b]: Activision. Why do people persist in defending what has taken place here? It could simply be lack of intelligence or the ability to critically think, but more likely it is pride: The fanboi ego cannot admit to the truths in this video, it has gone too far for him, in his mind there is no way back. Humility is not a word in his vernacular. In a world where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, we are brainwashed via corporately owned news outlets (see: Fox News, any Murdoch newspaper) to blame each other for the situation instead of looking at those in power, those with the wealth controlling every thing. Profit is increasingly becoming a dirty word. Or at least it should be. To all the nay sayers, i give you this: You have been conditioned to disagree with the rhetoric you see here. They have achieved this because they are smarter than you. Swallow your pride and open your mind. It is time to become a critical thinker, not just a consumer, with 2D personality. For a better understanding of how corporations have become so powerful Government cannot control them, and how they are shafting us in every market we participate in, i recommend a Youtube channel called "The Trews" by a critical thinker called Russel Brand (previously a comedian). Profit has now fully infected the games market, that is why $500 million buys us a gutted husk of a game such as Destiny, Watchdogs, Titanfall and others. To Deej i say (as he is apparently reading all this): please let your bosses know that we [i]know[/i] what occurred here. [b]EDIT 1:[/b] To those saying i jumped on some sort of bandwagon with this video, here i link my previous thread, some weeks old, in which i make a weak effort in tackling this subject: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/71096924/0/0 [b]EDIT 2:[/b] It's a tough challenge, trying to protect people who fight to defend the system hurting them. [b]EDIT 3: [/b]All big business is owned by the 1%. And thusly they don't care where you spend your money, as long as you do. The power of consumer choice is a lie. Pick up your Destiny box and read the back, it literally says "rich cinematic story telling". Can you see the problem there? [b]EDIT 4:[/b] Best insult received: "Also, I find your username hilariously perfect. Do you refer to your house as "The Superiority Complex"?" lel [b]Final Edit:[/b] I have just read the details of The Dark Below, and it will not fix the inherent failures of this game. They are pushing forward with this hacked up iteration of Destiny. They sold us one game, delivered another, and for better or for worse this is it now. It is a game aimed at the 12yr olds, the CoD generation, and I am out. I will boost friends in the raid only until I can trade this in for GTA V. See you Manhattan-side for The Divison, Guardians!
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  • Okay, this needs to be completely disconnected from OP. You can't take the liberties you took in your explanation of what is in the video and make them your own, this is called Spin, and is exactly the type of thing the video author is fighting against, manipulating emotion into getting an outcome. That being said, the author of this video makes some amazing points, but what I don't like is that if the things in this video are true, which much is speculation and many of the reason are posited as fact when they actually opinion and speculation. For example saying that Sparrow races were once included did not account for two things, 1 being that this could be completely false anyway and that Sparrows were meant to be a point of pride. Do I care that my Timebreaker is faster or cooler? Hell yes I do. That things is awesome just to be faster and look cooler and many games do this constantly, including Destiny with Emblems that you purchase for no reason other than asthetics. And 2) This ignored the game economy, which takes a very very long time to actually balance out. World of Warcraft is a great example. Why on earth do you pay for an epic mount or why do you spend gold to get flight training that is necessary? It's not to see if you get money, it's what's called a Gold Sink. And while Glimmer is an almost entirely useless currency as is crucible and vanguard marks to a point, Gold sinks importantly remove Motes of Light and Strange Coins, not necessarily for the week, but for the [i]next[/i] week so that you do feel the urge to spend your coins on something useless and so that you do need to continue playing to purchase the next item that actually means something to you. All that to say, not everything here is correct as he mentioned, but a lot of his video is still just as swayed in the opposite direction. Those swayed toward wanting DLC and trusting Bungie and Activision, "fanboys" as they're derogatorily called, are just as bad as those swayed against the above, but there is safety in numbers and while their may be numbers that agree with the complaints of the "masses," these forums are not indicative of the true population, primarily because very few people feel the need to come to the forums to leave a post that says, "Just wanted everyone to know that this game has problems but it's fun." They're too busy playing. All of that to say, I agree with almost all of this. But it ultimately doesn't matter. I have a threshold that I'll put up with and $20 is not a huge amount, so I'm fine giving it up to keep playing a fun game to see. This guy can't know what the future holds, just that there are many logical negative reasons for Destiny to be how it is. And similarly, I can't know if he's right or wrong. I'm just gonna buy it and keep playing a fun game regardless of what I did or didn't get. There are some amazing movies out there, but they are watered down and sappy and lowest common denominator. That's how popular things have to be or they won't be popular by definition. If you want indie non-watered down, there's plenty out there, but this issue has been beaten to death.

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