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Edited by Superiority: 10/29/2014 4:21:42 PM
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Deej: The truth, critical thinking, and final argument.

I have watched this video in its entirety. I realize it is long, but unlike pro Destiny/Activision rhetoric, the truth is a little more complex, and you not taking the time to understand what is going on is what they are counting on. What we have here is the ultimate anti-fanboi argument. Contained in this video is every thing we critical thinkers have been trying to express, only to be freight trained by the deluded masses. The masses: those of us who have successfully been indoctrinated by the [b]Lord of Profiteering[/b]: Activision. Why do people persist in defending what has taken place here? It could simply be lack of intelligence or the ability to critically think, but more likely it is pride: The fanboi ego cannot admit to the truths in this video, it has gone too far for him, in his mind there is no way back. Humility is not a word in his vernacular. In a world where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, we are brainwashed via corporately owned news outlets (see: Fox News, any Murdoch newspaper) to blame each other for the situation instead of looking at those in power, those with the wealth controlling every thing. Profit is increasingly becoming a dirty word. Or at least it should be. To all the nay sayers, i give you this: You have been conditioned to disagree with the rhetoric you see here. They have achieved this because they are smarter than you. Swallow your pride and open your mind. It is time to become a critical thinker, not just a consumer, with 2D personality. For a better understanding of how corporations have become so powerful Government cannot control them, and how they are shafting us in every market we participate in, i recommend a Youtube channel called "The Trews" by a critical thinker called Russel Brand (previously a comedian). Profit has now fully infected the games market, that is why $500 million buys us a gutted husk of a game such as Destiny, Watchdogs, Titanfall and others. To Deej i say (as he is apparently reading all this): please let your bosses know that we [i]know[/i] what occurred here. [b]EDIT 1:[/b] To those saying i jumped on some sort of bandwagon with this video, here i link my previous thread, some weeks old, in which i make a weak effort in tackling this subject: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/71096924/0/0 [b]EDIT 2:[/b] It's a tough challenge, trying to protect people who fight to defend the system hurting them. [b]EDIT 3: [/b]All big business is owned by the 1%. And thusly they don't care where you spend your money, as long as you do. The power of consumer choice is a lie. Pick up your Destiny box and read the back, it literally says "rich cinematic story telling". Can you see the problem there? [b]EDIT 4:[/b] Best insult received: "Also, I find your username hilariously perfect. Do you refer to your house as "The Superiority Complex"?" lel [b]Final Edit:[/b] I have just read the details of The Dark Below, and it will not fix the inherent failures of this game. They are pushing forward with this hacked up iteration of Destiny. They sold us one game, delivered another, and for better or for worse this is it now. It is a game aimed at the 12yr olds, the CoD generation, and I am out. I will boost friends in the raid only until I can trade this in for GTA V. See you Manhattan-side for The Divison, Guardians!
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  • *yawn* Nothing to see here. Move along.

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  • Gotta love idiots trying to milk off someone else who is able to complete a thought. You guys think you discovered some big secret? Any 5th grader can see that the final product doesn't equal what was previously presented. Do yourself a favor, stop trying to 'protect' me. Go ahead and take that opinion and research, that was neither researched by you or thought of, wrap it up in a nice neat little package and push it right up where the sun don't shine. By the way, if you are going to fake sounding intelligent at the very least punctuate and capitalize correctly.

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    • Occupy Bungie ? I find it hilarious that Destiny is getting this sort of backlash when, in fact, it's constructively not different from Halo CE. If anything this generation of gamers isn't as critical thinking as they'ed like to be and are just more entitled. You had so much potential. Sad.

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      • I don't think it has much to do with ego. Maybe that is true for some and possibly the majority, but not for me. I know that exceptions don't make the rule, but I would like to share why I do not take the criticism seriously. Destiny is a product on the market, and the mechanism for market correction is as the poster suggests (don't buy again!). I'm fine with that. I think the only way to assure that resources go to the most competent businesses is through the corrective power of the market (individuals expressing and acting on their preferences). What if we were forced to buy it? We couldn't even call it buying, really. What's more, what if it called itself a service and taught all of us that it was necessary that it be provided. If we find out not only that the service is terrible, but that they prevent any one else from providing a similar service and also will punish those who do not accept the service or try to start their own, that would infinitely piss us off, would it not? We might be even more pissed if we were to find out that if we even talked about the reality of this "service" the community would shut us up, not wanting to face the grim truth themselves (and perhaps rightly so). Maybe people are responding with such energy and fervor about this because it involves choice, and it stands in stark contrast to those things that we do not choose that rule over us. The dirt beneath our feet called "country", the people who chose to make us called "parents", all the subjugation and false positive moral obligations that demand we be selfless, collective martyrs for each others' needs. Maybe that's where the resentment comes from. That makes sense to me. That's something to be pissed about, but if it is continually repressed and denied, I think the truth finds a way to manifest either way. What we're essentially seeing is a great number of grown wounded children acting out in order to communicate trauma that they do not feel is safe to speak about directly. That is not an insult by any means, it is an invitation to check in with yourself and connect the rational mind to the empirical gut. How do you feel after reading this? Angry? Confused? Do you have an urge to be derisive or sarcastic? That's all okay. Make a note of it and learn about why you do that.

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        • True, if with don't do nothing or talk they will keep going and the evil tree will go larger at a time will be bard to cut it off. Is you really love games and destiny you will support this because if you support the lacks of work if only will created more freely and games like destiny keep selling with horrible story

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        • Amazing! He has me convinced. I wont buy the DLC until things change.

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        • You want everything to be perfect and the way you like it then you sir are on the wrong planet.

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        • Bump

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        • *mindsplosion* I have been enlightened

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          • We want this shit fixed Bungie, get off your greedy asses and do something, explain, or at least admit what happened, we have a right to know what happened.

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            • Love this guys content. He is spot on with everything!

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            • Sad how selfish the game markets become.

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            • Oh man, faction wars? Seriously. I love this game but gosh dang. Joe Staten's vision was so damn perfect. I hope he gets another chance at making the game he wanted us to own and play. I hope Bungie can do something with this game. I'd hate to think they are now making it up as they go. I send my positive vibes to those at Bungie who believe in the same Destiny that we do.

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            • +1 Just know that you are not alone!

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            • Gambling, trading and trees :(

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            • Sounds like ISIS got to you, bro.

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            • Edited by The Green AIIoy: 10/24/2014 2:33:07 AM
              "BIG CORPORATIONS ARE WORSE THAN HITLER PEOPLE ARE SHEEP EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH ME IS BRAINWASHED" is all I got from this. You don't want to buy DLC? Don't buy it. You don't like bungie or Activision? Good for you. But don't deliberately insult and mock anyone that disagrees with you, because it makes you look like a delusional tool. They don't have to agree with you, and making a whole post explaining why they're idiots won't make them agree with you any more.

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              • My only response: Video games are a business. Activision is a thriving business. Bungie is a thriving business. They know what good business is. They know there are fanboys out there who will sink every last penny into them. Why would they cater to our wants and needs? That isn't good business. If you expect them to do any differently than what they have done, you are just foolish. Is it wrong? Yeah. Is it good business? Yeah. It's a cold -blam!-ing world out there man. If you don't wise up and get used to it, you're going to have a hard time in this life.

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              • Because it does Not make Fun to you why want to Ruin it to Others? It is simply annoying. Keep your opinion and just leave the game if you don't like it.

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              • LEAVE BUNGIE ALONE! ps. what does lel mean?

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              • I agree with the video.

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              • This post is dumb, and that video is dumb. Can you people just quit the internet forever? Holy -blam!-.

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                • Says the person that has spent more time playing Destiny than the majority of the millions of other players. Lel.

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                • Ok. You're advocating what this guy is saying, but you don't acknowledge the fact that this guy basically invalidated his entire argument in the first 18 seconds. Here: "What it is, people. My name is Batman. And compared to other games on the market right now for $60, Destiny is pretty good. But compared to what was advertised for the last two years, compared to what we were all expecting when we pre-ordered this game, Destiny is a monumental failure." ^^^ That pretty much sums it up. The majority of the playerbase had unrealistic expectations, based on great editing, etc. from the advertisements. The guy even acknowledges that, compared to other games with the same cost, the game is good. The fact of the matter is, few of us want to take responsibility for putting THIS much stock into a game, for it to unsurprisingly not meet the standard that we personally developed. Go look at the profiles of the people complaining, the most. I'd wager even THEY have dedicated days of their lives on this game, therefore, something, many things, were done, correctly. Does the game have flaws? Yes. So did Arkham City, Diablo 2, Skyrim, WoW, and so forth.

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                  • Edited by Tiber of Astora: 10/24/2014 12:14:26 AM
                    "In a world where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, we are brainwashed via corporately owned news outlets (see: Fox News, any Murdoch newspaper) to blame each other for the situation instead of looking at those in power, those with the wealth cotrolling every thing. Profit is increasingly becoming a dirty word. Or at least it should be." Oh-My-Blam!ing-God... *sigh* You, my dear friend, are brainwashed. You damn well better look towards those in power. Because those Big Government Liberals in power are brainwashing people to hate the current economic system. All the while passing Socialist policies and blaming their failure on our Capitalist system! However, when you demonize corporations and businesses that is what causes the poor to get poorer! They supply the jobs and if you don't like how the operate, you change it! Because the worker has the power to not work and the consumer has the power to not buy! I'm so sick of this BS where liberals scream "Fox News! Fox News! Fox News!" "It is time to become a critical thinker..." Lad... You need to practice what you preach. "The power of consumer choice is a lie." Laughable. Tell that to the poor families of the early 1900s that formed unions in protest of their bosses. They got what they wanted. They got fairer wages and better working conditions because they chose to do something. "For a better understanding of how corporations have become so powerful Government cannot control them..." You seriously believe that the government ought to control corporations instead of the private sector? You do realize that you just said that you want the rule of the few to lord over our businesses? P.S. Russel Brand is a piece of hypocritical garbage! He disses the system that brought him his own economic prosperity. What a joke. You want a source of real facts look up Bill Whittle on the "PJ Media" channel on YouTube. I've debated many like you. You're all the same. Edit: Sense when did they replace common sense with "critical thinking?"

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                    • I basically agree with this whole video. The game was falsely advertised in a number of ways. I think there's a LOT of missing content. I think that It had a lot of wasted potential. I think Bungie made some awful marketing decisions, and I think it generally could've been so much better than it is. Despite all this though, I still enjoy it for some reason. I honest to God don't know why, but I love it. I'm still kinda pissed that we were directly lied to, and that the game is not as good as it could've been, but I still enjoy it! Maybe, in a future major update, they'll do something like add another story line, or just continue the old one. Maybe they'll implement some features like player trading, or the mentioned sparrow racing (That would be cool). I Hope to GOD Bungie reads and watches this and takes it into heavy consideration.

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