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10/19/2014 7:20:38 PM
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Is shoulder charge OP?
I personally think it is. FROM MY EXPERIENCE it seems like its a one hit kill (which is fine, every class has that capability) that appears to have a little too much aim assist. At first I saw it as a hard counter to arc blade which is fine because we need checks n balances for pvp. However the amount of aim assist (or possibly it's allowing extra lag compensation to adjust for the target) might be too high. So I'm wondering what is everyone else's thoughts on it?
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It should have a longer charge time. Other than that it is fine.
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I thought it was too until....shotguns,fusion rifles,auto rifles, specials, grenades were allowed in Pvp. Everything mentioned will kill a titan in mid slide before they reach the target!
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Edited by SG GEARD: 10/20/2014 12:59:13 PMOP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP Just another reason why they need to kill the forum app. God the community is a bunch of cry babies. Everything is OP. Please stfu already. You're killing the game.
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I'd say no. Simple hard counter of shotgun to face, and warlock can actually just put a few rounds from primary into them then melee them with their super long range, no physical contact required melee. Best used from the flank or behind and helps give strikers that assault class feel they're supposed to have. Only really op when some one is good with it playing against a bunch of idiots that don't learn and fail to adapt their tactics to counter it.
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It does have a lot of aim assist but I prefer it more then the shield since the shield is glitchy
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The shoulder bash needs to last the whole time of sprinting after its charged, I hate having to stop sprinting and then start again for another charge. Also charging shoulder bash and jumping while bashing someone turns it to a boot to the face which is an extremely satisfying way to kill a t-bagger
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I think it's fine, it's not used that often but still enough to be considered for something, if it where to get nerfed it would no longer be a one hit kill and have, for example, a knock back effect on the target
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6 RepliesAfter playing a hundred or so crucible matches, I have been killed by shoulder charge all of twice. People rarely use it, and I would assume its fairly easy to shotgun a Titan sprinting towards you.
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1 ReplyEdited by Enter Name Here: 10/20/2014 12:05:24 PMPeople are constantly running out of things to complain about! Now that people are getting bored of complaining about blade dancer, they are moving on to the shoulder charge! People wouldn't have even THOUGHT to complain about the shoulder charge a few weeks ago! What's next... Blink strike? Throwing knife? Grenades? Just because you get killed by something in a crucible game does not mean you must complain about it to bungie. (This wasn't directed at you. Cool post)
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No I think it's not even needed as a Titan I can get kills with a shoty or FR just as well as with using the Shoulder bash the only difference is with the bash I get killed at the worst times with my super, but I can escape more instances
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Overpowered? No. But I think there's an excessive number of 1hko attacks in the game and this just adds to it.
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Let us put it this way... Warlock autoshield punch, Hunter ranged/invisibility/instant kill punch.... And compare that to the titan punch which can't kill in one hit and requires you to kill to use their ability... Which means that titan's real only melee is shoulder charge which requires you to sprint and requires a lot more aim than say... bd's super, arc blade. I played BD before and at least in PvE, you can hit enemies behind you with Arc Blade. And in PvP, I've seen blade dancers hit me when I was behind them (and I don't mean their whirl ability, I mean their actual dash).
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I think it is, but let's look at it from a realistic standpoint, do you think you would be able to get up, let alone breathe the air after taking a hit like that and not have a crushed rib cage? I could understand Titans suntanning the entire hit but not anyone else!
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I think the shoulder charge is a much needed move for the titan which puts it up to pace with the other two classes I terms of OPness
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3 RepliesIt is OP, but it doesn't need to be nerfed because it's one of the few useful abilities in PvP for a titan.
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As one who's used all 3 classes I consider all melee attacks OP. But of course, that is what makes them so enjoyable. As much as I hate it when a warlock sets me ablaze, I love it when I pummel someone with the bash.
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2 RepliesI don't think it is myself. But it would still be good even if it took a little longer to charge up.
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8 RepliesThe fact you have to charge up with it for 20 seconds and lose it in 3 makes it the farthest thing from OP. I can tell you what's OP though:[spoiler]GOLDEN. FRICKIN. GUN.[/spoiler]
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its only OP as its a cheap trick, only slightly cheaper then someone constantly rushing with shotguns which really are tuned correctly.
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1 ReplyIt's not OP. I use it and have been shut down plenty. All it takes to bring me down is a clean blast from a shotgun to the chest and up.
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1 ReplyNo. It isn't.
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13 RepliesIt is overpowered. They should nerf it by making it disappear while in the air. Defender's shield cannot be maintained while in the air, neither should shoulder charge.
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1 ReplyEdited by Wobbly Wombat: 10/19/2014 10:33:35 PMThe Titans shoulder charge is just fine. If you see one of these guys running at you don't assume they are going to give you a hug. Just move out the way and then high-five them in the face when they stop. It's great fun, try it. I'm a Titan. If I see someone standing around holding his dick, I just can't resist kicking is ass into orbit :-)
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Nah, it's fine and it doesn't last forever, you have to time it just right so it starts up and doesn't end prematurely. Good for catching people in hallways or corners. If you fall short of your estimation on where you target is 9 times out of 10 you're dead.
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From my experience it can miss quite easily if the intended victim is moving laterally. If they are moving straight toward you or away they are mist likely toast. The luck and timing involved balances it out I think. Never a guaranteed kill. Ive been shotgunned, sniped and supered while doing it. Mainly keep spamming it coz it's so much fun to use.
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1 Replyas someone who plays all 3 classes i can say that it is OP but its used sparsely enough to not be too big a problem
