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10/19/2014 3:40:02 AM
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new VoG update question... is bungie hypocritical?

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So, when you released the vault, you gave no direction on how to complete it.You left us to our own ingenuity to figure it out. Why then are you now saying anything at all about how any task is completed? Call it a bug, call it a glitch, call it whatever you want, but why the hell are you going to tell us to figure it out then say we're wrong for doing so? I'm referring to, of course, shoving the bosses off into a bottomless pitt. Sure, its a cheap way of doing it, and I personally am against it.. But the point remains. If you were so worried about this, why didn't you give directions? It is very hypocritical of you to give us free reign to accomplish a task, then come out and tell us we're wrong. Change it however you want, and we'll have to adapt... Just know that what you intend to do directly contradicts the spirit of the entire concept.
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  • GFY on the poll, hate people that do that, if you're going to make a poll, make it legitimate. You're absolutely right, when WoW releases a raid and people find a cheap way to beat the boss they let it stand...nope, it's not a dumb post just a dumb person posting it.

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  • Raids are supposed to be figured out. They are just upset bc they do not want Atheon defeated in that manner. I can see where they are coming from in one sense. In another, they want to fix the teleport mechanic. I don't agree with that at all

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    • I believe that pushing him off is bullshit but I don't like this random teleportation thing it completely messes with a group

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      • Give people an option to disagree with you.

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        • Did bungie actually say themselves "you're wrong"? From what I know, they just said " it was a mistake, we will fix it". I assume they did mean to add the possibility of knocking the boss of.

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        • Edited by Failednipers: 10/19/2014 6:07:28 PM
          I still don't see how they are hypocritical on themselves. You need to better elaborate. Anyone who is mad at them fixing aethon is an absolute moron...the raid wasn't intended to be played by knocking him off...and if you thought they weren't planning on fixing it you are, well, a moron as well. Just Incase you need it here's the definition of cheating - 1. act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. If you believe that knocking off aethon was "fair" or "honest", you are once again, a moron.

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          • By your logic someone can hack the game so Atheon dies when he spawns or you can one shoot him with a hacked sniper and you'd say "well they didn't tell us how to play so whatever" denying platforms you can clearly get to however is bullshit.

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            • I don't know about anyone else, but I think I may see a little bit of bias in these polls...

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            • Fixing the ability to knock Atheon off a ledge makes sense, but I really don't want them to change how he teleports people, that's not really a bug, it's a way for teams to strategize who they want to send into Mars/Venus.

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              • Stop just stop

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              • Look people, this topic has nothing to do with should changes be made. Actually, I'm all for it. It will bring a slight boost in difficulty to an incredibly easy mission. That's not the issue. The problem is WHY the changes are being made. They gave us no information on what or how to finish a task, and said we'd have to think "outside the box" and when people did just that, they came out saying we're wrong. THEY SAID WE ARE WRONG FOR DOING WHAT THEY TOLD US TO DO. Seriously people, I hope you understand that this line of thinking is actually incredibly hurtful to the community. Actually, this issue could have been avoided all together if they just chose a different way to explain it, or if they gave no explanation at all. Hell, they could have said "we realized that the community has made the raid far easier than we hoped it would be, so we are implementing changes to make it harder."

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                • biased poll is biased and thus moot and pointless. It is their game they have every right to change anything about it and not ever need your approval ever or tell you why either.

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                  • Agreed. Bungie should not tell us how to beat it when they just throw us in and say "Good luck!"

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                    • I can't remember which halo fame, but there was an achievement for getting one of the huge heavily armored enemies with a frg to dive at you and fall into a bottomless pit... Come on, is this all that different? Hell, bungie made that achievement for halo, but it's wrong in this game... It doesn't matter if intentional or not if they tell us to complete the raid however we can

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                      • Funny how I see no comment about the sniper perches. That was a method that was in the spirit of the fight but got removed as well.

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                        • Edited by ThaGinjaNinja: 10/19/2014 4:09:42 AM
                          For all you bitches crying please go back to the news and read bungies release statement about the vault being open they specifically say it should be a challenge and to prepare your load out to fight in a variety of ways so random teleporting means a variety of ways not just holding down one side please stop being hand me everything for free pansy bitches dead release notes about what the raid should have been and then tell me theyre being hypocritical Just read this [quote][url=/en/News/News?aid=12141]Let the Raiding Begin[/url][/quote]

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                          • Nope

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                            • In this case, I agree. I think Bungie is wrong for "fixing" this. We, as players, die falling of ledges all the time. Why not a boss? If you can knock him off, more power to you/us. Is it cheap? Kind of. But is it CHEATING? No. It's using a method available. Kudos to who discovered it. Too bad it's getting removed.

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