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9/27/2014 6:46:34 PM
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Why farming is the same as hacking. (diagram)

Hacking, in the gaming industry, is defined as modifying or changing a specific set of parameters of a game or gaming system to give you an advantage. The lag switch was created when somebody realized short connection drops would give them an unfair advantage in a game where they are the host. So they created a device that duplicated these errors. Lag switchers gained a huge advantage. The same thing goes for modding. Modders found weaknesses in the game's code that allowed them to insert their own codes in order to gain an advantage. Farming is like this, only on a much smaller scale. Instead of messing with the parameters of a connection or inserting a code, farmers are manipulating the conditions and parameters of the enemy spawn system to give them an advantage. This is done by finding the perfect spot to prevent the spawn of surrounding enemies. This is achieved by taking advantage of the the boundaries of "spawn fields". Please refer to [url=http://oi59.tinypic.com/fod3de.jpg]this diagram[/url] to see how spawn fields work. Every non-mission enemy spawns in a specific point on the map. This map is surrounded by an invisible "spawn field". If players are within this spawn field, then the enemy does not spawn. The example above shows the spawn fields of the now-defunct "loot cave". Players would specifically position themselves within the spawn field of the crashed hive ship while staying out of the spawn field of the "loot cave", thus ensuring they have an easy advantage over the hive. They manipulated the parameters of the game to give them an advantage. Thus, this is hacking. That's all hacking really is, manipulating the game to give you an advantage the developers never intended. The "loot cave" may now be defunct, but there are plenty of spots similar to it in Destiny. One of them is in the rocket yard and I report any hackers I see "farming" there. It isn't an in-game resource, it is hacking. I will continue to report any farmers I see. So please be wise and actually play the game in the manner bungie intended for you.
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  • I'm sorry that you don't have any friends. There are many places in the real world you can go so that you can make some. You just need to learn to try and not enforce your own brand of ethics on anyone. This is a game. Farming isn't hacking. Yes, Bunjie did not intend for people to play Destiny by having them shoot into a cave for hours, but they don't ban people if they do. Is farming a waste of time? Maybe. Is grinding strikes and not getting an upgrade a waste of time? Possibly. But a bigger waste of time is looking for someone that is farming, just so you can try and get them banned or in trouble. Play the game and have fun. However you want to. As far as you being "famous" goes. There are a lot of people that think they are famous and liked. Outside of this forum I have never heard of "long face". As far as trolls go, you do a decent job. But as soon as a more annoying troll comes along, you will be quickly forgotten. Unfortunately, that means your post will only become that much more annoying.

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  • * hug *

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  • This D-bag is crazy smart, and I don't mean super smart. I mean he/she is both crazy and smart which makes for a scary person. There is only one reason this sociopath posted this thread and that is to stir up the forums and get people in conflict with each other. Think we have had enough if his psych 101 manipulation.

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    • Does noone else read this and just think...what's gone wrong in his life?

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    • Kill yourself.

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      • Is it okay to go collect materials? Or is that hacking too?

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        • I wouldnt bother insulting you since its clear to me you are posting to start a flame war or trolling as its become known. I suspect you have no views one way or the other on the topic at hand and are just baiting people.

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          • If some places had more mobs most people wouldn't farm the smawn points. But I can tell you right now killing 200 fallen is a damn chore. Thew needs to be more adds to stop the cave farming

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          • Uh oh guys, hear that? He's gonna report you, better stop doing that "hacker" thing he was kinda talking about.. Better yet, stop killing any enemies around in case you see this player. Worst thing to happen right now for ANYONE is to be reported. In fact for now on we have to ask him if it's okay to get on destiny and play and ask him which missions we can do and for how long we can play.. Because... He's watching you.

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          • You are an idiot. Bungie don't care if you're farming. Good luck with those reports. I heard they ban those that abuse the report a player button.

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          • Came for diagram, fairly disappointed

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          • Let me try to put this a good way and not sound offensive or mean. You are an idiot. Farming is a part of any game with end game content. Look at World of Warcraft, you have to farm to get your professions up to use them in a game. In Destiny you have to farm materials to make gear better, people were farming the queens wrath until Bungie nerfed it. Farming is a part of the game learn to deal with it or go play solitaire and be happy.

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          • You should pay attention in class Carl. Education first!

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          • Edited by Prozog: 9/30/2014 11:39:00 AM
            LOL!!! why cry babies are as bad as farmers YOUR EXAMPLE NUMERO UNO!

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          • Nope not at all hacking but you get half a cookie for effort

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          • More color and use of protractors and rulers. It looks as if this was taken from the kindergartens art display in the hallway

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            • Was just exploring today and came upon at least two other farming spots that work just as well as the cave. I did not even join in with the ONE person that was farming each and by just standing there for a few seconds at the one spot 4 blue and 2 purple popped up at the spawn point. I left them sit there and moved on. My point is, you can still farm just as easily as the cave if you take the time to look around.

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              • This is great!

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              • So then buying all 4 rail roads in monopoly or gaining control of 1 of all properties to control your game environment is cheating by your take. It's called a tactic. Thats all it is. VtxR - PS3

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              • Seriously, so you have NEVER sat in one spot to give yourself a height advantage with fortification to kill anything? Because if you sit still you were hacking. And as I finished typing this I feel like an idiot for arguing with one.

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                • Your posts are awful.

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                  • Farming happens in every MMO so maybe it's time to build a bridge and get the -blam!- over it.

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                  • OP Troll?

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                  • Farming is a part of all mmo's. Bungie just wants to make sure people are having to stay mobile farming instead of shooting at spawn points. They're not doing anything wrong when they do find points to take advantage of... Bungie said nobody will be banned for farming. Now if they were actually having to hack/glitch to farm that would be another story. These aren't bugs or glitches, just mistakes in design that were overlooked. People are helping Bungie by finding these spots really. It isn't like lvl 30 will be all there is to Destiny. Still a young game, things will be tweaked as it goes and the gear people have farmed will be sharded down the road. Wasting your time reporting people for playing the game though, they're not hurting you and Bungie isn't going to slap their hands for being opportunists. Queen kill order gets everyone full sets of armor any way

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                    • This is serious guys.

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                      • I especially like the shaky X on your diagram. Playing the sympathy card because of the Parkinson's I see. Good play there.

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