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9/27/2014 3:48:10 AM
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Why the Titan is the worst class
I'm sick of hearing these hunters and warlocks complaining about what there class needs when the titan is the worst by a good margin. Why do you think there are WAY more warlocks and hunters? Here is a list of everything wrong with the titan:
1)Shortest melee range out of all classes
2)Worst grenades. They only have 1 insta kill grenade and they have the worst aoe grenade.
3)Fist of Havoc is the worst super. You will be lucky to find a group of 2 or more people grouped together while the hunter can run around the whole map with his herp derp arc blade. Plus it's useless against boss's.
4)The shield can be countered by arc blade, the void ball super and fist of havoc in pvp. Some shield.
5)Where the -blam!- does this the fact that I have more armor come into play? I still die by the same amount of bullets.
6)No long range super
I'm sure I've missed some things but please my fellow titan brothers and sisters (all 20 of you) surely you must feel the same. We demand to be the badass space soldiers we were ment to be!
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1 ReplyNever played a Titan but isn't fist of havoc instant? If so.. that's bs, also i think titan are the best looking class imo, id go them just for there armor, Warlocks all look similar, i think its some exotic armor that makes titans look like there from WoW, im a hunter with lucky raspberry armor and it looks like a BIB... seriously -_- most unimaginitive armor design ever, how am i mento look BOSS when what i got looks like a tv dinner tray strapped to my chest
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You sir are mistaken. He is a tank. Survivability is what he is made for. Learn how to play nub because I have a 25 titan and 27 hunter. The hunter is a pointless class, with nothing more then a broken invisibility that is only good for reviving. The rest is crap, grenades are weak, melee is weak, should I even continue? My hunter couldn't even contribute to the raid... I was there as fauder and a Lil extra damage. Want to know what the titan is good for. Everything else. Hell in crucible titan has so many uses it's not even fair to hunters or warlocks. BTW, use defender idiot, PvP or pve.
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Edited by KatoZee: 9/29/2014 10:04:44 AMI want to agree with you strongly but it really does come down to two factors. 1, Individual Player Skill 2, Teamwork I am terrible at PvP, shockingly bad... as in I only ever go in to do the bounties then stay clear away as not to handicap those on my team. Though on recent skirmish play throughs an all titan team (me and two matchmade) all Defenders and dominated each of the five maps I was required to do for the bounty. The point is each super requires a sense of vulnerability as it would be completly unfair to be invincible otherwise. The three of us Defenders were strategically using our bubbles to secure pretty one sided victories. The first bubble perk which I thought was rather useless is very appreciated in PvP. One of the chaps had that helm which blinds people, so it was really funny watching the enemy come in for a nasty suprise. Strikers are basically a shotgun super, since you have to be close to use, mind you I do enjoy using death from above from time to time in PvP. I will start a match and use a bubble so the enemy know then switch class when i'm dead. I'm pretty sure it causes confusion when I nail their team all standing togther cause I use death from above instead of a panic bubble. But if you see a titan sprinting towards you, its either going to be a shoulder charge or a super, so back away like mad. Though in an effort to support you lets take a look at your list: 1) Yes we do, and dare I say it i'm sure the Warlocks melee (loose term) does more damage than us. Many times I have gotten the drop on a warlock and stormfist/disentegrate punched them only to be one shotted (sometimes with a FB up) by their melee. But then again we have a shoulder charge which is difficult to pull off but a one hit KO. So having a regular punch that did the same would be harsh. 2) The only grenade I seem to be good with is the magnetic one which again confuses me because there have been times that I have stuck that thing to people head only to watch them survive two explosions??? Both times I have been dead so possibly grenades do no to little damage after you are dead? Flash bang is really usefull as i've watched people trying to run away but are actually just running against a wall. The sticky grenades take an obscene amount of skill to use (well outside of my levels). You almost have to remember to stick them to walls instead of the floor for best effect. The pulse one is fine though the suppressor grenade still leaves me scratching my head. 3) Fist of havoc is brilliant in tight quaters and death from above is amazing at distance, don't think i've ever been killed whilst performing death from above. Been killed plenty of times after using it because I was short of my target (^^,) Also if I see a hunter comming towards me with a knife drawn I use fist of havoc and it appears to be a 60/40 split in the hunters favour for who comes out alive. 4) Again if a Hunter is coming at you in your shield its a safe bet to start running away, though i'm not sure about the your reference to void ball. My shields have taken plenty of nova bombs and not faded. The only thing i've noticed is that Sepkis Prime can make your shields dissapear if you use it right under him. 5) The armour only affects Iron banner and PvE I believe though even at 29 I still see the other classes with the same if not higher armour rating as me. So I would count that as a firm whats going on here moment, considering we are the only class withh 100% armour on. 6) I agree no long range super is annoying when compared with the other classes, Warlocks with their bombs and spam grenades and hunters with their long range golden gun and blink stabbing. Though I believe that was because of the initial gameplay design based off of the armour ratios. Hunters Supers have the longest range because they have the less armour, warlocks mid range cause of more armour and titans are short range heavy armour in the thick of things. I would like to see things changed within the class itself since a few of the perks are rather mute or not working. Catapult and iron harvest is another. I have shot a Gjallhorn into mass amounts of enemies all bunched togther to create the some total of zero orbs. Perhaps i'm using it wrong? The best thing is to know your enemy and fight accordingly, i've learnt that most people use cqb tactics, so when I see my radar going off I start falling back to a place that eliminates cqb scenarios. I'm still terrible because as soon as I get out a sniper finds me (^^,)
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Just maybe you're bad kid cuz I have a warlock and Titan I do not have any problems with either one they are all balanced and they have their own abilities .the class this not going to work for u have to with the class.
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2 RepliesI am almost a 28 titan and I share your frustration. I can't understand how the titan is a hulk type class and yet somehow I get beat out with melee attacks, except when I do the shoulder charge I can get that instant kill with melee. But even that it takes a few moments to initiate. The grenades are most definitely use less and only do weak aoe damage once deployed. The only good grenade you spoke of would be that sticky grenade as a defender.
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7 RepliesComplaining that your class is underpowered or useless is ridiculous. There is obviously something wrong in your build or tactics. I play as all three characters in pvp. I have no problem getting kills and keeping my KD well over 1.0 and I do it with a Stryker Titan. Your melee skills are in matched. Shoulder charge will give you an additional distance and overload will re-charge your storm fist more often then not. Try even getting within 10 feet of a Titan. If you play well you can close space and kill with melee and devastate . Try throwing a flash bang then charging. Your have a good chance of getting 3 charged melee attacks in a row. FLASH BANGS. As far as not getting kills and multi kill with fists of havoc. Can't help you there man. That ability is a meat grinder. The most I can do for you there is tell you to watch your radar? Don't charge into battle blindly. Use it when you see a group of people together or when your just about to he killed... Or when you've just flash banged them. The defence Titan is great for control/capture based games. Now for the gloves to come off STFU just because you don't play well does not make the game broken. As for advice or help. Research a build. If you can't get kills/get killed to often change your tactics up man. Too often you people come on to complain instead of asking for help or advice. Come on. I doubt your getting kills with any class. Maybe if you get enough whiners together you can get Bungie to change the game so are awarded kills and victories for crying and whining instead? Maybe they could start a crybaby crucible for you guys? And it Could shower legendary and exotic engrams all day and night? Then your mom could spend less time wiping your tears and get back to wiping your ass. Good luck. See you in the crucible
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It is not, i think the defender class needs some changes and a bit of a buff if you ask me though for PvE
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1 ReplyI think Titan needs to get the catapult ability working so he can actually evade out of situations faster. Trust me catapult is useless and no one uses it. No one. It needs a buff. A big buff.
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i am a titan and i have to say that you do bring up interesting points but it seems that you are misinterpreting the titan. first of all to the no range melee and no range super, fist of havoc can be ranged with either death from above or shockwave. and as for melee, if you equip shoulder charge it has a large lunge as well as locking on to the enemy and being a one hit kill. as for the grenades, flashbang and suppressor are meant for disabling enemies, pulse grenade and the torrent one are meant for weakening, and the magnetic and lightning are meant for damage. i know that the aoe on all but the torrent, flash, and supressor grenades are small but they are very affective when used properly. i do however agree with ward of dawn being worthless in pvp. but it is designed for pve not pvp. also the base stats of all players are equalized in crucible. I hope this helped and sorry if i left anything out!
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1 Reply[quote]Why do you think there are WAY more warlocks and hunters? [/quote] Source? Because in beta it was pretty evenly split. Nice assumption though tool
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Edited by Jesse Berry: 9/29/2014 12:25:15 AM
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INSTANT. KILL. MELEE. The Hunter has the worst grenades... no grenades can instant kill. Fists of Havoc has the lowest cooldown of any Super (along with all the other titan abilites). All Supers should counter eachother. Titans take an additonal Shot to kill, and have abilities that improve their survivalility. AoE Supers beat range.
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I'm sorry to say it but you're probably just not good with the Titan. Maybe try a different class? Seriously I love the Titan and I think it's easily the best, especially the defender
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2 RepliesEdited by tacoface1996: 9/28/2014 7:34:46 PMWhatt, the titan is amazing, maybe the titan just isnt for you buddy. Foa rarely kills more than 1, ha yea right not if you panic super every time... Shortest melee, ummm i think its the same range for everyone and i've never raged because my melee was too short... Not as tanky as everyone else well maybe because pvp is leveled, wait till IB to say anything about that, and you're not a god either so dont try to rush the boss that like 10 times bigger than you. Aoe nades are horrible, haha yea right, if you know how to use them you can easily control the outcome of 3v1, and combo that with double nades from armanetrium= pure area control. So no the titan is not horrible you just dont know how to use him. Edit: forgot to add, the defender shield can be useful in pvp, but where it really shines is in pve, there is no pve mob that can go through that shield which is an aoe shield. Has saved me and my teamates asses too many times to not say its amazing.
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Enemy players should either take damage when entering the sheild or go blind or have some kind of debug when inside of an enemy Ward of Dawn. Theirs an exotic helmet that blinds enemies who walk in but FFS that should just be an ability. Everytime I try to use WoD effectively in miltiplayer an MLG Hunter rushes in with arc blade and uses his 360 no scope silent knife to kill me and my mates. Warlock Sunsinger is a better support and Nova Bomb is just a ranges FOH.
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titan is the hardest to play. definitely not what id hoped for. not tanky, high risk super, no slows or auras. bubble shield class is eh. my new hunter is more fun, and feels like a hunter class should.
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Fun fact destiny devs and beta testers preferred the titan out of all 3 look it up cause I don't feel like posting source
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I will say that the catapult jump ability is horrible. The first 2 are better than that. Their is no difference catapult just makes it worst so while the hunter and warlock get teleportation we get a jet pack that is worse than the first 2 abilities they really should make it worth while or something while other players get blink and we get crap
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I'm a Titan, and proud! Even if I suck.....
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2 RepliesI haven't read everybody's response to this, but I did read your post. I play hunter and arc blade/golden gun are pretty useless in late level bosses, considering most of them do that ridiculous close range attack, and golden gun doesn't do THAT much damage and I don't think it had a critical... Titans almost ALWAYS tear me up in pvp... When I'm running up on somebody, and I notice they are a Titan, I have to instantly rethink my strategy because they are probably gonna kill me some how... Your melee is short range but it hurts, your super is situational but it hurts... And use a shotgun in your bubble, I'm pretty sure that'll stop anybody using their arc blade on you. I usually don't even try unless I'm REALLY after an objective that you put your bubble on. And lastly I think your "armor" will matter a lot more when Iron Banner gets released! That might be the titans time to shine, even though I think it's their time already. Good luck and don't give up.
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2 Repliesi think u should of named this post i suck AT being a titian. im a titan and LOVE it but im not the best at pvp but i do know how to use the -blam!-er. how is death from above not long range enough?
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2 RepliesTitan is at its best as support. I pride myself in protecting and buffing my team mates whilst dropping massive amounts of Orbs so they can unleash a constant string of supers. Unfortunately, Strikers just run out and die. There are still uses but Titans in general are only really valuable in PvE.
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2 RepliesMy only gripe is the Defender Titan. Supers should not go through Ward of Dawn. Especially since we can't shoot through our bubble. We are basically sitting ducks for FoH, or Nova Bomb. Hell, even hunters can just run through and basically one-shot us with either of their specials. So either make it so enemy supers don't work inside of the bubble. And before anyone says this would make the Bubble OP, no it won't and here is why. 1- You can't shoot through the bubble, it is entirely defensive. Unless you enter the bubble I am not danger to you. 2- I am not immortal inside the bubble, I will admit that 1v1 with my shotgun and I am near unkillable, even then that is only with the Armor of Light Buff. If I am using Blessing of light or Weapons of light I have no added defense inside the bubble. Even with a defence buff 2v1 can kill me very easily. 3- If you don't want to risk fighting me in my bubble, just wait. Once it goes away I am screwed. That happened to me today. During a control match 4 enemies stood outside my bubble, I knew I was going to die. I still managed to take out two with an Ambush shotgun blast to the face and my magnetic grenade post-mortem.
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-blam!- off, i dont want noobs to start playing titan. Let em stick to locks
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1 ReplyUh I do agree the other classes have an advantage in pvp but I feel I do just fine with my Titan. Only thing I dislike about the Titan is like you said the grenades, the Titan by far has the worst nades.
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If you're bad with a Titan chances are you're just bad in general. All you gotta do when you start to die is use your Fist of Panic and you're fine. Not to mention the -blam!-ing shoulder charge
