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9/25/2014 7:40:20 PM
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The fusion rifle needs a nerf in crucible, here's why.
Dear bungie, I love your game, however i would politley ask that you nerf the fusion rifle (only in crucible it is balanced well in pve).
1: the fusion rifle is an insta kill when you connect shots
2: the charge time can be slightly exploited by continuously charging the rifle(to the point where it can outshoot a shotty)
3: the fusion rifle has a ridiculously controlable spread
4: anyone can use one successfully
Suggestions for a fix
1: modify the ammo so it cannot hold as much
2: make charge time slightly less consistent
3: change spread
4: make less effective against shields
5: change recoil
6: when charging make it "wobble" so it feels as powerful as it is but reduces accuracy
7: change projectile speed
These are seperate suggestions an are not meant to be done together, however i beileve any one of these would improve the shotty & sniper so they could be on par with the fusion rifles please comment so bungie reads -BenDuckling
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1 ReplyThere are four ways to kill someone in the game in the space of under a second: - Fire a shotgun into them at extremely close range so that the vast majority of the spread all hits them. - Shoot them in the head with a sniper rifle. - Hit them almost directly with a rocket from medium range or closer. - Charge or pre-charge a fusion rifle and hit them with most of the burst. So how does this make one of those more powerful than the others?: - The fusion rifle does not need to be at close range and has a more reliable spread than a shotgun. It soundly beats the shotgun in every way UNLESS the shotgun user gets into their optimal range and fires a well aimed shot before the fusion rifle user can even charge. Highly unlikely scenario in any straight engagement. - The fusion rifle does not need to land a precision kill. Just point and shoot. Can you acquire a player, sight their face, and land that precision shot with a sniper rifle before they can charge and fire? It's highly unlikely as the former requires a high degree of ability to do in such a small window. If you doubt me, try running around headshotting with a sniper rifle giving yourself only the charge time of a fusion rifle. Oh wait, but that's not all. You actually have to do it faster. Good luck making those headshots in a tenth or twentieth of a second. On the plus side, the sniper rifle can outperform it at extreme range, so if you're in a specific spot on a map and your opponent is at another very specific spot you'll have an edge. - Hell, it can kill you faster than a rocket launcher can if the range is moderate enough. If it weren't for high velocity tracking rounds a fusion rifle would be a flat out better weapon at any moderate range. That might sound absurd, but a player in the open has a very good chance to evade a standard rocket round. A fusion rifle burst only needs to be aimed, it cannot be dodged. The fact that it would be better or equal to a heavy weapon at all is nonsense. That is how it stacks up to it's chief competitors. Never mind how it can outpace every OTHER weapon in the game with laughable ease. Hell, you can kill a hunter before he can get off a golden gun shot with a fusion rifle that isn't even pre-charged, his super animation is longer than the gun's charge.
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Yeah nah..... If you get kills with a fusion rifle you earned em. They're for people willing to learn to use them. High risk/high reward seeing as the charge time can get you killed and if people are putting you at arms length you can lose. Learn to jump.
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Lol dude you're just bad
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OMG STFU KID I never even use the fusion rile in cruicible but I kill other ppl who do all the time. get some skill stop the nerfing!
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I don't agree with this. I think all of the other posts in this thread give a good example as to why.
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If the charge time was inconsistent what would be the point? It would be almost unusable in pve and pvp. There are plenty of work arounds to it. Close up the shotgun is much faster. Also it helps to use your radar. Rifles can beat it farther away. Get over yourself.
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I disagree, here's why: Even the shortest recharge time can be beaten by multiple weapon classes including snipers, shotguns, machine guns, rockets, handcannons, and some auto rifles, as well as punches and grenades. The projectile speed is already among the lowest of any guns except rocket launchers. The range is barely better than shotguns in most cases. Because the package doesn't always hit fully, most players survive their first hit except at very close range. Unlike every other gun except rockets, fusion rifles have no critical damage multiplier. Head or foot is all the same.
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9 RepliesJust stop plz just stop ....... Ok so do you think fusion rifle with "charging" is more op then a shotgun without "charging" ? I think not
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1 ReplyOverpowered? I laugh hard when I see someone with a fusion rifle pointed at me, because what often follows is this: he charges, I dodge, he misses, exposing himself to my fire. The fusion rifle is risky, miss a shot and you're dead.
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1 ReplyStop asking for nerfs loser.
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3 RepliesPersonally, I think pvp maps need to have a greater aspect on special ammo control. All secondary weapons can one-shot in the right situation, but none should be able to be used as often as they currently are
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4 RepliesHow about bungie nerfs your vagoo you panzy. People like you are ruining the game... HURR DURR I GOTS KILLZED BI DUH FUSZION RIFLE BETTA NERF IT. Stop being so butt hurt and deal with the fact you suck and will never amount to anything more than cannon fodder in the crucible.
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1 ReplyEdited by REV3RSEReLAPSE: 9/25/2014 8:15:15 PMThey don't need to get nerfed the amount of ammo on the map needs to be cut not everybody in the lobby needs full special ammo.
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The shotgun is the same
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2 RepliesIf they redid everything proper, then Fusion rifles could be more of a shield remover. If fusion rifles don't 1 shot, then people using all the other shit that kills you in 1 shot or almost as quick would own fusion rifles. They're keeping all the damage high, but it all needs to come down and drop this bs 1 shot nonsense from over 5+ different things. The only things that should 1 shot: Golden Gun with a head shot, caught in the center of a Super or Rocket, Shotgun point blank. There is just so much balancing they need to do. The game really needs some Halo like balance, right now its just Super Smash Bro's + CoD(and CoD is just too retarded now). Also, Fusion is a beast in PvE.. it probably wouldn't hurt it if it did get nerfed.
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9 RepliesI think the shotgun is basically the cheapest weapon for crucibles. I like the idea of less special Ammo drops though. The special ammo drops should be like the heavy ammo that way everyone can be happy not getting owned by a shotgun camper and people who like to be shotgun campers don't entirely get their noob toys taken away
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2 RepliesI disagree regarding the charging. First off is that the fusion rifles is highly inaccurate at any sort of range pay point blank, though the multiple shots hit as hard as a handgun when they do connect. And the second is that because of the range most attacks need to happen in closer proximity, when the charging delay is utterly lethal without careful preparation. Most players using FRs die top sustained fire while charging. It's a very dangerous game of chicken with huge risk and reward for most FRs.
