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9/22/2014 5:18:48 PM
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Bad juju (and other pulse rifles?) in desperate need of buffing!
I got bad juju from exotic bounty (toland's legacy, takes many hours) and i have been trying to use it for a while. It's terrible. It looks badass, but that's it. I've heard that other pulse rifles are bad too. Bad juju seems to have kind of low damage but the biggest problem is the magazine size: 15 (that's 5 bursts). The unique ability is cool (I haven't gotten it yet) but the thing is that you need to be shooting to very low-health enemies for it to work because the 5 bursts you have aren't getting you a kill on anything more than a vandal or a goblin. I understand the low magazine size to avoid this weapon being OP, but at the moment it has a very long way to that. The other exotics seem to be about as good as the other weapons without the special perk and then the upgrade makes them the best weapons of the game. The bad juju however seems to be worse than a common pulse rifle due to the mag size and the special upgrade makes it a special weapon for masses of low-health enemies, about as good as a normal uncommon pulse rifle. Combine that with the overall lack of power in the pulse rifle category and you have the worst exotic in the game. The only use I can think for it would be farming, but I don't want to support that kind of activity. I also tried it on PVP and it was even more terrible. To kill other player in a 1vs1 situation you need A. hit pretty much all of your bullets and due to all the double jumping and blinking and other stuff going on that's usually nearly impossible B. have the enemy to not hit his bullets because you would die first if both of you hit all shots. I only won a couple of my gunfights and managed to do few surprise and team attacks but compared to my average auto rifle i was doing very bad job with the juju. And what comes to pulse rifles in general, I can't remember a single time i would have been killed by them apart from the rare cases of the stranger's rifle (because everyone gets it). What i do remember is getting killed by fusion rifles, shotguns, auto rifles, supers and in one game i was getting totally dominated by a guy with a suros regime. What I suggest to be done is to increase the magazine size of the bad juju to 24 or 27, maybe even 30 and a overall buff to all pulse rifles. I would love to use the bad juju again because it looks awesome, but at the moment I just simply can't. Hoping for a quick fix: olento99
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I completely agree it's pathetic how shitty Bad Juju is, the coolest looking gun by far in the game yet it is easily the shittiest gun in it's class. When I use it I feel like I'm using an airsoft gun that shoots rubber bullets that go everywhere, then I have to reload yet again, good luck trying to take out the easiest of targets with this gun, I guess that's why they named it Bad Juju, cuz it sucks ass.
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1 ReplyThe update is here, but bad juju isn't in it! They are nerfing and buffing all they said they would, except bad juju. I have mine shelved, since it's not viable to use. Pity because it looks boss.
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2 RepliesSkimmed it, but I'm not reading this unformatted wall-o-text. Next time use some paragraphs to make it easier on the eyes. As for the Bad Juju, it sucks. But that said Bungie has come out and said that Bad Juju, Thorn, Scout Rifles in general, and Pulse Rifles in general are all getting buffs (and that Auto Rifles are getting nerfed). They haven't really said just what all is getting changed (though we do know that ARs are getting a range nerf), but at least we know that something is coming down the pipe. So I wouldn't get rid of Bad Juju and I would recommend that you fully upgrade it minus ascendant materials. Even if that means just equipping it before turning in bounties and then using a different gun out in the field. But this way the gun is upgraded and ready to go whenever the buffs come out.
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2 RepliesDidn't read, to long
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Agreed However I was doing ok last with the pulse I grabbed from the vanguard
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6 RepliesInstead of wasting ur time writing all this u could have looked at the dev notes and saw that pulse rifles the bad juju and scout rifles were getting buffed in next patch. Seriously bro read the dev notes before complaining on the forums. Could have saved u time to realize its already being addressed. Im not just thowing u undwr the bus here cause im not. Alot of othwr people on forums do the same thing. Alot of them keep repeating the mistake over and over again. DENSE they are
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8 RepliesAnd it seems the Bonus for Instant reloading is broken. I unlocked it but it never reloads after all bullets are fired (or after a kill if it was translated badly).
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6 RepliesI've been grinding out the strikes for the last few days, from what I've read I'm going to be severely disappointed... :'(
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2 RepliesGuys, Bungie announced like a week ago that pulse rifles will be buffed. Your constant complaining isn't going to make the update come sooner, it just pisses everyone who actually reads Bungie's posts.
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2 Replies[quote]The only use I can think for it would be farming, but I don't want to support that kind of activity[/quote] I stopped reading right here. You're ignorant. Farming is essential in any game like this, and acting like you're somehow better than everyone else because you don't do something millions of other gamers do is absurd.
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2 RepliesEdited by Orendi: 10/1/2014 2:15:10 PMThe fact that it reloads, looks, and has the magazine size of your average scout rifle... would be better off as a scout rifle. Than a pulse rilfe. But it is my favorite pulse rifle in the end.
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2 RepliesWhat I think is that they should nerf (again) auto rifles and come out with a damage 2.0 cause all guns do about the same damage (minus impact and crit multipliers) which are very useless in level 28 raids they need to redo all guns also being that auto rifles can hit just as hard and have higher dps I have ruffle 6 legendaries which are pulse rifles and scout rifles and they are mainly boss guns I wish they would fix it
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[quote]I got bad juju from exotic bounty (toland's legacy, takes many hours) and i have been trying to use it for a while. It's terrible. It looks badass, but that's it. I've heard that other pulse rifles are bad too. Bad juju seems to have kind of low damage but the biggest problem is the magazine size: 15 (that's 5 bursts). The unique ability is cool (I haven't gotten it yet) but the thing is that you need to be shooting to very low-health enemies for it to work because the 5 bursts you have aren't getting you a kill on anything more than a vandal or a goblin. I understand the low magazine size to avoid this weapon being OP, but at the moment it has a very long way to that. The other exotics seem to be about as good as the other weapons without the special perk and then the upgrade makes them the best weapons of the game. The bad juju however seems to be worse than a common pulse rifle due to the mag size and the special upgrade makes it a special weapon for masses of low-health enemies, about as good as a normal uncommon pulse rifle. Combine that with the overall lack of power in the pulse rifle category and you have the worst exotic in the game. The only use I can think for it would be farming, but I don't want to support that kind of activity. I also tried it on PVP and it was even more terrible. To kill other player in a 1vs1 situation you need A. hit pretty much all of your bullets and due to all the double jumping and blinking and other stuff going on that's usually nearly impossible B. have the enemy to not hit his bullets because you would die first if both of you hit all shots. I only won a couple of my gunfights and managed to do few surprise and team attacks but compared to my average auto rifle i was doing very bad job with the juju. And what comes to pulse rifles in general, I can't remember a single time i would have been killed by them apart from the rare cases of the stranger's rifle (because everyone gets it). What i do remember is getting killed by fusion rifles, shotguns, auto rifles, supers and in one game i was getting totally dominated by a guy with a suros regime. What I suggest to be done is to increase the magazine size of the bad juju to 24 or 27, maybe even 30 and a overall buff to all pulse rifles. I would love to use the bad juju again because it looks awesome, but at the moment I just simply can't. Hoping for a quick fix: olento99[/quote] You are totaly right. This weapon needs a huge buff in damage to. I have it also but needing to hit every shot and still getting killed is terrible im going to get its special abilite and put it in my vault because right now its literally suicide to use. Please buff bungie. Bad juju needs help.
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I'd have to use the full version first to understand what you are going here for. In PvP you should be able to kill anyone as long as you do 20 damage a head shot. With the special perk you'd never have to reload either. I'm assuming it does more like 30 damage a head shot which would put anyone down in about 3 shots. The thought process is you never have to reload once you have the perk so as long as you are mid way decent with it you'd be prefectly fine.
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1 ReplyI think they also really need to tone down the green smoke. It's looks cool, but it's really distracting while your trying to fire from the hip.
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Edited by FenixZero: 9/25/2014 1:56:22 PMThe Bad Juju should be changed to Scout rifle that shoots three round bursts, instead of a pulse rifle that can fire full auto. Also, the first bonus skill, the better accuracy when hip firing, is bad. With so little shots, hip firing is a waste of bullets. I think a better skill would be either kills give bonus mag size or give bonus reserve ammo.
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No bad juju definitely needs work. I'd appreciate an 18 Bullet mag and it's void damage back pretty please
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So the gun is doing something right. [spoiler] So far [/spoiler]
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Wow, that magazine size is stupid low. I have over double that (39) in my legendary pulse rifle.
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Bungie said in the patch that they are planning on buffing thorn and bad juju in a future patch. Keep it around hopefully they buff it good.
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1 ReplyI've got Plan C and it's fine. I kill many a people with it in he Crucible and majors/ultras in pve.
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1 ReplyEdited by XEN0NAUT: 9/25/2014 9:36:32 AMI have "The Conduit" a FWC pulse, starts with an 18 round clip then upgrades to 42!!! FTW.
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Well....it is called the bad juju.
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4 RepliesI agree completely. It is straight up ridiculous how much better other guns are. Auto rifle vs bad juju in pvp and you just get rekt. I am by no means the best pvper but I can usually hold a 1.5 - 2 kd ratio. With this gun I just get destroyed. Needs a bigger clip size and a buff to impact.
