[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Benergizer 2) If by inferring that I don't respect my parents, then you're statement "I'm not saying you're lying or disrespectful" is invalidated. It's called the 'red herring' fallacy. You throw out something else to distract from the original.[/quote] There it is folks! [i]Thats[/i] why your parents hate you, [i]thats[/i] why you're a pansy nerdling, [i]thats[/i] why you're adopted, and [i]thats[/i] why you'll never have a girlfriend!

Dude, just change the title to: ░▒▓█*LOCK THIS PLEASE MODS*█▓▒░ [Edited on 02.14.2008 11:09 AM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ghostchiilld WOW ,,,,,,,,,,,, wait till you 20 you will regret this post. WOW[/quote] Who said I will? I said that I [b]DON'T FAULT THEM FOR MY EDUCATION[/b] and everything they've done good for me. I just don't understand they're unreasonableness on this point.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sharif1 I never said she wasn't immature in some facet of her life or treatment of you and your siblings, all I said was that if you really do respect her you should avoid being condescending. Please don't think I'm saying you're lying or disrespectful, all I'm saying is that if you truly respect your parents, nothing will make you portray them in such a way.[/quote] What a contradiction. "I'm not saying you're lying or disrespectful, all I'm saying is that if you truly respect your parents, nothing will make you portray them in such a way." You're inferring that I don't respect my parents by portraying them in "such a way." 1) If "such a way" means an accurate, true statement, then OK. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a truthful representation of the facts. 2) If by inferring that I don't respect my parents, then you're statement "I'm not saying you're lying or disrespectful" is invalidated. It's called the 'red herring' fallacy. You throw out something else to distract from the original.

WOW ,,,,,,,,,,,, wait till you 20 you will regret this post. WOW

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gryphus4 Why would you post your life story on bungie? I really don't think any one cares. Maybe you're looking for someone to say how great you are? A pat on the back? How can you start at thread with the topic basically being "Parents Stopping You From Playing" and twist it into a life story? Irrelevant if it's true or not, why the hell would you even post it?[/quote] Who said I twisted it? I said in the title "Being forced to drop Halo. By parents. [b]Life story included.[/b]" And in the OP, I clearly marked off where the life story began and ended. And if you read any of it, you can see how it [i]does[/i] tie in to the body of the message around it. [Edited on 02.14.2008 10:54 AM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jaw boogie No blogging ninjas lock this thread.[/quote] Buddy, if you noticed....I asked in the title that it be locked. I recognize how this has degenerated. And I want it to be locked. It's not happening though, for some reason.

No blogging ninjas lock this thread.

Why would you post your life story on bungie? I really don't think any one cares. Maybe you're looking for someone to say how great you are? A pat on the back? How can you start at thread with the topic basically being "Parents Stopping You From Playing" and twist it into a life story? Irrelevant if it's true or not, why the hell would you even post it?

If you're thinking about posting anything aggressive, don't. Rather: STFU [Edited on 02.14.2008 11:20 AM PST]

When I have to quit matches, it's not really the fault of my parents. Mostly, it's me forgetting that I needed to do something and they reminded me of it. My dad is a fan of the Halo series and he really likes playing it, so it's not like they detest it or anything. Don't know about my mom, though. She may just dislike the idea of my little sister playing it. So yes, if my parents say I need to get off, for the most part, it was a bit of a screw up on my part, or something unexpected came up or something. They aren't being rude, just making sure I keep up on myself and stuff. n_n

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SteTehPr0digy I was having sex with your mom[/quote] It wasn't funny the first time, why would it be funny the ∞th time? Grow up.

Simple fact: Staying home and playing Halo vs going to the Fine Arts side of campus and hanging out there. Bungie or Druggie... Thats what I always say... But seriously, Stop playing Halo and Finish your Eagle Scout project! Just do it and it will be done and I can stop nagging you about it!... (I can't remember how many times I heard that from my dad. Must have been about 10-20...but definitely worth it.)

I was having sex with your mom

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Benergizer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sharif1 Seeing both sides of your parents is all well and good, however representing the bad in such a bitter and condescending fashion just struck a chord with me. Even if I 'know' that you respect your parents (I use the term loosely as I don't really 'know' but assume), I suggest avoiding metaphors that make them out to be irrational idiots.[/quote] Yeah, thanks. I know. It does come across as conceited and harsh. However, anyone living in my house knows it. My oldest brother, their only natural child (who's done college and is married with two kids), is very well aware of it. My father, although he hates to admit it, has and does on repeated occasions acknowledge her immaturity and manipulation. That's the key. Manipulation. Sometimes they'll say that I do so. But the funny thing out of all of it is that my mother does whatever she can, and ends it all with an extreme mood swing to stony silence, so that my father does whatever she wants just to appease her. He then tells me and my 18 year old brother (the only sibling I have still in the house) that we need to put up with it for a short time. This is a direct quote from him, that set my brother and I off into paroxysms of laughing. "I know it's hypocritical. She does have her mood swings, and you guys just have to deal with it. Mom can be childish, she's not perfect. Just remember that nobody's perfect."[/quote] I never said she wasn't immature in some facet of her life or treatment of you and your siblings, all I said was that if you really do respect her you should avoid being condescending. Please don't think I'm saying you're lying or disrespectful, all I'm saying is that if you truly respect your parents, nothing will make you portray them in such a way.

I know how you feel. I'm more mature than me dad, and he's a total jack-blam-. He's a -blam-.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sharif1 Seeing both sides of your parents is all well and good, however representing the bad in such a bitter and condescending fashion just struck a chord with me. Even if I 'know' that you respect your parents (I use the term loosely as I don't really 'know' but assume), I suggest avoiding metaphors that make them out to be irrational idiots.[/quote] Yeah, thanks. I know. It does come across as conceited and harsh. However, anyone living in my house knows it. My oldest brother, their only natural child (who's done college and is married with two kids), is very well aware of it. My father, although he hates to admit it, has and does on repeated occasions acknowledge her immaturity and manipulation. That's the key. Manipulation. Sometimes they'll say that I do so. But the funny thing out of all of it is that my mother does whatever she can, and ends it all with an extreme mood swing to stony silence, so that my father does whatever she wants just to appease her. He then tells me and my 18 year old brother (the only sibling I have still in the house) that we need to put up with it for a short time. This is a direct quote from him, that set my brother and I off into paroxysms of laughing. "I know it's hypocritical. She does have her mood swings, and you guys just have to deal with it. Mom can be childish, she's not perfect. Just remember that nobody's perfect."

Just wait till your 18, move out, and you can play all the halo you want. xD But in the mean time, that blows, I fell bad for you.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Benergizer You bring up an interesting point, there. I do respect them. That should be obvious from the fact that I defended them from every mindless idiot who posted on here telling me I should bludgeon them, do something in their sleep, or some other immature form of violence. I respect them. I just put in strong metaphorical language an example of how immature my mom can be at times. While I respect them, I can very well see their shortcomings. That is actually the true form of respect. Not being able to see the bad in someone would be blind idolization, not knowledgeable respect.[/quote] Seeing both sides of your parents is all well and good, however representing the bad in such a bitter and condescending fashion just struck a chord with me. Even if I 'know' that you respect your parents (I use the term loosely as I don't really 'know' but assume), I suggest avoiding metaphors that make them out to be irrational idiots.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sharif1 which to me seems extremely hypocritical and narrow minded, and as a whole [b]utterly disrespectful[/b] of your parents. Saying your mother is [i]about as mature as an 11 year old girl who doesn't get her way[/i] after informing us that you [i]respect your parents[/i] seems conflicting, wouldn't you agree? Not that I disagree with your right to be heard by your parents, and your right to play video games. If what you say about yourself is true, you should have every right to play video games. Your parents should be happy that they have such an intelligent and well-rounded son. Maybe we're not seeing the whole picture here? It is, after all, only your view on the matter, and there are always two sides to every story. Whatever it is, I hope it works out for you, and I wish you the best of luck in college. Also, just a tip about college applications (even though I havn't done my applications yet as I'm still in my junior year of high school), just because a school is in the ivy league does not make it better than others, for example, MIT is not an ivy league school but is widely acclaimed as one of the best electrical engineering [computer science] schools available.[/quote] You bring up an interesting point, there. I do respect them. That should be obvious from the fact that I defended them from every mindless idiot who posted on here telling me I should bludgeon them, do something in their sleep, or some other immature form of violence. I respect them. I just put in strong metaphorical language an example of how immature my mom can be at times. While I respect them, I can very well see their shortcomings. That is actually the true form of respect. Not being able to see the bad in someone would be blind idolization, not knowledgeable respect.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Benergizer Well, I'm just wondering how many other people have to quit matches and accept EXP penalties because of parents, like I do. I'm not asking for a bunch of random posts about why you have to quit matches, like the typical "I was having sex with your mom," or, "my cat had a freaking seizure" or other unrelated, pointless, immature comments. It's now at 6. That is, 6 cash prize tournaments I've been in where my parents come in and flip that I'm even on my console playing "that stupid Halo game!?!" It's unbelievable. I do not understand it. It's like, the fact that I've had perfect grades since I started school, play 2 sports, tutor, play the violin, and fulfil all of their petty, esoteric, trifling, pointless commands isn't enough. Nope. I can't play. Even after all that. >> Ok. Within this part, is my life story. If you don't want to read it, scroll down until it's not enclosed by the markings. << _________________________________________ I'm a 16 year old triracial gifted kid. I was adopted at birth; my biological mother was white, and my father was almost entirely black, and apparently as far as I can figure out through analyzing the DNA structures from blood tests, a tiny part asian. You can't even tell from looking at me, I just look like a light skinned brutha. The one thing I can't fault my parents for is the education they've worked to give me. I was homeschooled. I tested out of all highschool subjects at the end of my 7th year of school, what we would term 7th grade in homeschooling. For the average homeschooler that translates to a 9th grade public school level, but I was ahead of that too. That was when I was 12 years old. I have a photographic memory. It's something that I find very useful, as I remember my childhood in extremely vivid detail. I'm now 16. When I was 13, I audited a senior year class my oldest brother in my adoptive family was taking for his Bachelor's (4 year) degree in Business Administration at the college he attended. I had always been good with numbers, had a photographic memory, was very good with managing money; so a career in business highly interested me. I took my first full college course when I was 14. I took one class for one semester, for the college to see if I could fit in the social setting and handle the academic load ( What a joke.... ). I'm now 16, and taking classes fulltime there. It's a fairly small, local 4 year private college. It's got great faculty though, and the teaching is fairly good. I'm working on an Associate's Degree, which covers 2 years. I can't attend the Ivy League schools I want to attend, due to my age, but I'm applying at the end of 12 years of school. I'll be newly-turned 17, and it'll roughly translate to the amount of time most people spend in traditional school. If all goes to plan, Lord willing, I'll be 21 when I earn my M.B.A., which is a Master's, Business Administration. [ An interesting statistic: The average age of the person who earns an M.B.A. is . . . 36 ] To top it all off, I now have to tutor at my college. So here I am tutoring people older than me, in a college setting. What a messed up world this is. Academics aside, I also participate in 2 sports: football and track + field. There's a whole host of other accomplishments in the realm of athletics, but I'm not going to go into detail there. Let's just say I'm well-balanced in my accomplishments in the realm of both ACADEMICS and ATHLETICS. _________________________________________ >> Life story ends. << So with all that, you'd think that maybe I could just be left in peace sometimes. So let's go back to where we started. It's now at 6. That is, 6 cash prize tournaments I've been in where my parents come in and flip that I'm even on my console playing "that stupid Halo game!?!" I've just had to disassemble my console with all the cables and everything, disconnect it from my HD computer monitor, and put it into my storage bin for all that. Why, you might ask? Because my parents can't stand the fact that I do find enjoyment in something. I play videogames. Get used to it. I have straight A's, a perfect 4.0 in college ( I'm 16 mind you ), I play(ed) the violin, [ not so much after the concussions from football ], and I'm just about done with everything for the Eagle Scout award, something not easy in and of itself. I don't understand their absolute disinterest in any valid reasoning I might put forth as to why I play Halo. They won't take any reasoning on it. The thing that sucks about this is the timing. I had recently, 7 weeks ago, stepped away from Halo for about a month. I came back 2-3 weeks ago, and started up again. Now that I'm getting my caliber of play back to the point where I can actually raise my rank, I'm trying to go from a Brigadier to General. If I can just do that, then the involvement level I'll feel compelled to invest in Halo will decrease dramatically. To almost nothing. So what do you think? Do your parents ever negatively effect you, be it when you play, or in other things? Discuss, y'all. _________________________________________ [b]Additions will be made here. Check here for updates.[/b] Addition 1: Guys, I'll be putting up a link to a Facebook, maybe, soon. Addition 2: Anyone who really wants to, can send me a Friend Request on Live. Beats playing random idiots online, eh?[/quote]My parents unplug it "when my times over" and stuff..all my penalty exp is from them. And I was in a tourney for a year of XBL and my parents unhooked it once :(

Not to seem like an ass or anything, but after reading your post, I believe you are being extremely conceded. Not that you dont deserve to play games, if you get the grades you say you get why shouldn't you? I had this exact same problem with my parents a few months ago when my report card came in for the first quarter of Grade 11 (Year 12 to you Englishfolk) of the International Baccalaureate Programme (IB) and they flipped at the one single B (in Arabic no less) and practically banned me from all gaming until I got to them with logic and reason. No, my problem with your post is that it seems like it's designed to be a pat on the back. Every point you list to help you seems manufactured such that all the points for you make it so that you seem 'perfect' while the points you bring up against your parents allude to great personal bitterness and immense frustration. Not hate, mind you, just frustration. Earlier on, you said this [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Benergizer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jewmasta ummmmm maybe u should tell ur parents how u feel and start being aggressive? or maybe talk bak that shows them that u mean business. try something like that.[/quote] HAHA! Are you kidding me. Nope, see, the difference is, I do actually [b]respect[/b] my parents. I just strongly disagree with them on the way they act. And it's much harder when my mother is about as mature as an 11 year old girl who doesn't get her way. It's quite fun being more mature than your parent....[/quote] which to me seems extremely hypocritical and narrow minded, and as a whole [b]utterly disrespectful[/b] of your parents. Saying your mother is [i]about as mature as an 11 year old girl who doesn't get her way[/i] after informing us that you [i]respect your parents[/i] seems conflicting, wouldn't you agree? Not that I disagree with your right to be heard by your parents, and your right to play video games. If what you say about yourself is true, you should have every right to play video games. Your parents should be happy that they have such an intelligent and well-rounded son. Maybe we're not seeing the whole picture here? It is, after all, only your view on the matter, and there are always two sides to every story. Whatever it is, I hope it works out for you, and I wish you the best of luck in college. Also, just a tip about college applications (even though I havn't done my applications yet as I'm still in my junior year of high school), just because a school is in the ivy league does not make it better than others, for example, MIT is not an ivy league school but is widely acclaimed as one of the best electrical engineering [computer science] schools available. [Edited on 02.14.2008 9:52 AM PST]

Hey Ben, Sorry to hear about your troubles. That was a very well written complaint. I don't really know your parents well enough to advise you with confindence on how to deal with them. One thing you didn't mention is WHY they hate Halo so much. Is it the game itself? Is it fear of violence? Is it all video games or just Halo. If they generally view video games as a waste of time then here is what I'd advise you to do. Pick a time when you and your parents are not fighting or arguing. A time when you're all in a good mood and getting along. Then, pleasantly and nicely tell them that there's something you want to talk to them about. Explain that just like sports, reading, and watching movies, Video games are a fun past time that you like to participate in. Remind them that you're living a well balance life and you have your priorities straight. If you have one parent that is the driving force behind all this then try to to have the discussion with him/her alone instead of both. Good luck bro. I'll send you an FR.

With the assumption that this is all true, good for you! As far as your parents are concerned; where would you be if they didn't push you so hard? Mostly, they may see your time spent on video games as a monumental waste of time, which you could be using to further enrich your life. Now go spend your free time on something more useful.... like developing a chrystal meth addiction! :)

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