Destiny is like defiance (defiance is closer to an mmo than destiny) period. Destiny is a multi player online game. It is not massive period. It takes $$$ to run servers for an mmo, you guys are paying not paying that kind of money to demand mmo style game play. Bungie has no experience with this style of game and I expected them to fail, which they did for all intents and purposes, but I still enjoy the game.