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Edited by Capt Explodabob: 9/17/2014 6:36:49 PM
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The Raid Needs Matchmaking!

It's all well and good to have five friends who play Destiny--most of us do--, but having five friends who also made it through the tedious and boring grind through lvl 24 - 26 is another thing. I also find it funny that Bungies' excuse for the lack of Raid matchmaking is that they only want dedicated raiders, when anyone from the public can enter the start of your Raid session from Patrol. So, I ask that we are at the very least give the option to MM for Raids. If you're dedicated to raiding, you're going to be using the dedicated Raid lobby. A lot of Bungie's decisions don't make any sense.
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  • Agreed!

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  • Agreed! I can't always have 5 other friends on that are prepared to attempt a Raid. Matchmaking would be great!

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  • I think the major thing to worry about here is the lack of communication. If we had proximity voice, then sure. Match making would be great for this game, I certainly don't have six friends who play Destiny. Let alone six friends who got to 25-26. I would love match making. However, I do match making in strikes and the people doing it are terrible. They would be good if they knew some tips, but I can't tell them any thing because of the lack of voice. Another thing to worry about is the way these raids are set up. It saves to your Fireteam leader so you and your buddies can do it whenever you want within one week. It would take hours to do the raid in one sitting, hours that the people who "need" match making for time concerns wouldn't have. I think the issue is just laziness. It really is simple using your clan's forum, the Destiny fan-made LFG site, or even Reddit to find a group and get a time together. Do I want to do those things? Not really. I'd much rather push a button and get the content done with no social interaction. But where's the sense of satisfaction in that? Honestly, this is my biggest gripe with games like WoW. Push a button, and it's done. Here's your gear you got with no effort. Why do I use it, then? Because it's easy, and it's what the game requires of me. So what that only "elite" people get it? I don't have any of this gear because I haven't worked for it. It's the way life works. You have to work for stuff you want. If you want this raid's gear... go work for it. I understand people are busy, but an hour here and there isn't ridiculous to ask of someone.

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    • This topic title should be edited to include heroics, story missions and patrols, all of which would also benefit greatly from matchmaking or an LFG function.

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    • Ghost is correct, they need matchmaking for Raids. It is hard to coordinate 6 people to play at the same time anyways, now you want to require it so it has to be friends? That's not fair. I have a full time job and go to school. I don't have the time to do a raid all that often, so why should I be punished for having a life? Why should I not get to do raids because I can't have 5 other friends online all at the same time? That's bullshit. And to rebuttal BearCat and Scneeches. You two obviously have no idea how to play the game If you're in a fire team with someone you can plan out everything together. Also there is both in game chat when you're in a fire team. The reason for that, is I don't think anyone wants to get online and hear 1000's of random people chatting, screaming, or just -blam!-ing around by talking about penis's. The reason in game chat is restricted for a reason.

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    • I agree, I was just about to post this as a topic and saw yours. +1 , I really hope they respond with matchmaking option on raids and vault of glass.

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    • Think that over man, 5 other strangers? You wont be able to all plan when you're going on again and you wont be finishing it in one sitting.

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      • Yeah man it doesn't make sense for them not to have matchmaking. People with friend will play with friends regardless, and people without friends can enjoy the content without being hindered. It's really stupid to try to control how people should play their game.

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      • Every missions need it!!!

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      • The idea that 6 people are supposed to schedule their lives around Destiny is asinine.

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        • Man. I hate how you can't do matchmaking on heroic missions now even raid doesn't have it. Smh. It's hard enough to look for a fireteam since you can't talk to the players that are in the tower (you can't right?)

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          • Obviously there is no reason not to include it. Options are good. Selfish people seeking to hold others back will come up with all kinds of logical fallacies, but common sense tells you that giving players options to get together INSIDE a game is better than forcing them onto websites. That's so antiquated that I really have no idea what Bungie is doing. They seem hopelessly out of touch on this and a good decade behind the curve.

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          • Edited by Vishimtar: 9/16/2014 12:44:48 PM
            They're trying way too hard to make things hardcore, but their definition of hardcore is just to add irritation for the average player. All systems should use matchmaking and communication should exist and be easy [i]in game[/i]. Destiny fails to provide the most basal necessities conducive to multiplayer gaming. Bungie's seemingly myopic view on what these necessities are is going to whittle away at the population who will not go to forums to create fireteams (and nor should they be required to). What an archaic and clunky design they have vomited out here in terms of communicating with fellow players and enjoying what could be a pleasant online multiplayer experience.

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            • Agreed. This game will have a short life without it. If WoW can do it, Destiny can have matchingmaking. 30 man raids are possible with randoms in WoW, I am sure a 6 man raid is possible in Destiny.

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              • Why have matchmaking on Strikes but not anything else? Especially raids. It's stupid. People replying with "go get friends" are morons. Matchmaking is pretty important to any multiplayer game. Most of my friends are not gamers and the ones who are either do not own Destiny or play it on another platform. Just add the damn feature in and make people happy. There really is no excuse for it. I play Strike missions with randoms all the time and I have yet to have one disconnect on me. The ability works fine and needs to be there for people who want it.

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              • Edited by Falcon Punch: 9/16/2014 6:54:50 PM
                I agree - there needs to be matchmaking to both heroic strikes and any form of raiding. Content is being released that people are essentially being blocked for various reasons that usually boils down to time. Gamers are older, people have jobs, families and do not need the hassle of having to set aside a specific set of time each week to log on with friends. Bungie - you already have a model for this - [b]World of Warcraft[/b]. Classic/Burning Crusade was hardcore as 40/25 man raids were difficult and required voice communication and strategy; only a small subset of the player base ever got to see Molten Core, Blackwing Lair, etc... back in 2005. Blizzard constantly changed their design over the years - Wrath of the Lich King brought less punishing raids and eventually started what is their Raid Finder we have today so that the majority of the player base can enjoy the content they pay for. Destiny seems to be WOW of the 2004-2007 era. Why should I be willing to spend money on DLC if I can't experience the new raid content easily? I am not ready for heroic strikes yet, in terms of level, but if they are meant to be so hard that you need to have 3-6 close friends to play - then I don't think this game will last that long, certainly not for 10 years. People will lose interest and move on.

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              • Edited by Dooodley: 9/16/2014 6:56:13 PM
                People arguing that the OP -and others- should make some friends need to STFU AND GTFO and here's why: * I know that you basement dwelling window lickers like to think that some random -blam!-er you met online and added to your friendslist is your friend but they're really not, they're just random people , with a good chance of not giving two -blam!-s about you. *Not having matchmaking is manageable in MMO's, where most of those "get friends"- people probably are coming from, for the simple reason that there is text based chat. The only thing lack of matchmaking does is making things more inconvenient for everyone. The vast majority of people who have actually been in the Vault already probably just sent other random people online invites, God knowns that I've been spammed today, or got some pugs here on the site. No different than what matchmaking could do for us. You're ultimately still playing with strangers. Noteworthy: Unlike in some MMO matchmaking systems there's actually a gear check in this game. That gear check is that level you have to be to queue up.

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                • Add a party finder in the tower. For EVERYTHING! ( all parties ) We post on a board in the tower. What we need/want. Be specific. Any player on line can read it at their tower. Then you join up. Any party you want, including raids. It's so simple. There is even a spot next to the Bounty Board. They have a bunch of boxes there. Like they will unpack and build it. The copy/paste answer I was getting on this. I am sure it will be here, if it's not already. " Use the forums" or " Use the app " What happened to using the in game tools that are always included? We will meet more players. Like minded players. Friends eventually. I have never seen anything like this.

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                • Edited by LarZen: 9/16/2014 11:33:52 AM
                  This is just one more bad decision in a long list of bad decisions Bungie have done. The king of MMORPG that is World of Warcraft has a raid finder. People learn as they play and if people use a headset with a microphone it should be even more achievable. People that want to ensure that everyone has a headset with microphone and that players are informed about tactics etc can make a pre-made raid group. So Bungie, please stop with all the bad game designs and wake up!!

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                  • No.

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                  • If not matchmaking for raids, then at least the weekly heroic and nightfall. They're just harder versions of the strikes.

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                  • A big thing is mic use? I've jumped into strikes with MM and not once have I ran into other players with a mic, good luck clearing a raid without communication.

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                    • No. No. And more no. Bungie has always promoted team play and communication. Go do some research on their raids and how much communication is needed. Sorry but no again. MM would kill raids

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                      • In a word, yes.

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                      • Adding a matchmaking wouldn't hurt anyone... Players who want to play with clan/friends would play with clan/friends. Players who don't have any clan/friends online would play with the matchmaking. If players wants to take the risk to use matchmaking and fail in raids, it's their problem, no ours. Period.

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                      • Dude, you and all the others whiners about matchmaking need to man up. This game is designed to be social and co-op. Make some friends in game, because I'm so happy there isn't randoms for such a difficult challenge. Read half the retarded crap on here and realize people aren't nice and going to be jerks half the time. When you run strikes people are always quitting out. I don't care if you already played that level or don't like it. I got stuck doing the same strike 5 times in a row, it's called grinding for a reason... They will come out with more strikes, and I'm sorry your unhappy they didn't make the game so every aspect satisfies you, but they're trying to cater to everyone, not just you....

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