I really enjoy the PvP in Destiny, and everything was awesome in the lower levels, but now that everyone is getting their skill trees higher, a few abilities are becoming a bit overused and overpowered in their current state; namely the Titan's shoulder charge.
There's no reason this ability should be a one-hit kill in PvP, especially with the buffs already to Titan's melee.
No other class gets an ability (Besides the super buffs of course) that grants a OHKO in close quarters combat, and the fact it has a large instantaneous lunge makes it that much more OP. It would make more sense if the shoulder charge took the place of the melee ability of the Striker; but the fact that it's its own ability and it deals an instant kill makes it that much more imbalanced.
There's been numerous times that a Titan has not even thought about using a weapon, and has instead charged forward and melee'd before I get the chance to hit them a few times with my weapon and melee myself. This completely counteracts any form of skill-based play if one player who chooses a particular class can just sprint forward and get a guaranteed melee kill with a massive lunge, whereas another who chooses a different class cannot. Even with an Arc Blade active, the Titan will still trade kills with the Hunter in a melee battle, and that's quite unbalances seeing as one is a super and one is just a skill tree ability with infinite recharge, as long as you sprint beforehand.
I suggest decreasing the damage so that the one hit kill is no longer possible off a skill-tree based ability, as these should only be possible with a super ability. Possibly even changing this as a replacement for the Storm Fist if the player chooses it could also even out the CQB fights in the Crucible.
EDIT: For everyone commenting who seems to be a Titan and doesn't want their one-hit kill ability nerfed, I'm not trying to JUST make your class weaker, I'm trying to bring to the attention of staff that [u]ONLY[/u] one class gets an ability for something like this; so either nerfing it to make everyone equal in CQB, or buffing the Warlock and Hunter for a respective OHK skill should create parity between the classes. At the moment, each class is equal at every range except for the Titan at close range. Therefore, it's imbalanced.
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Edited by Absolution: 11/3/2014 1:41:51 AMIt's not as simple to use as you think... if a titan shoulder charges someone, typically they deserve it... it takes 3 seconds of sprinting to make the charge active which means you have to measure timing and distance.. second, if you make any move outside of jump it peters out, meaning if you commit to a shoulder charge you leave yourself open to fire... shoulder charge always loses out to shotgun unless from behind... as long as you don't let up on the fire, you can normally win out on a charging titan.. Edit: the charge doesn't last long either... you have 5 seconds of charge time before it dissipates and you have to resprint if you want to try again...
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Keep crying.
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Lol they're aren't going to nerf it... They intended to do it. Get a Titan and you'll see.
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I don't know about warlock but blade dancers get a one hit kill with backstab+blink strike. This is a one hitter that is actually fair as it requires the melee ability and to be behind the target.
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14 RepliesLook at the strikers bio... it's ridiculous that the warlock gets a 1 hit kill melee but to titans don't. Bugger off
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Well think about this and I'm not a hater I have all the classes so I know a little about each and how gameplay differs. Warlock gets overpowered five foot melee. Hunter gets a throwing knife. Also Titan has to be right over you to use super not ranged at all. So it's actually only fair that they get a least one kinda of ranged thing and it's still close quarters. PLUS!!! Their called the "Tank" class for a reason. Is my point made or naw?
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1 ReplyOP is a moron.... It's hard to use. So, it is balanced just fine.
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Just from the title. Bump.
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No need for nerf
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As a striker Titan, I'd say "sure nerf it." It's pretty ridiculous. If you're a good shot, you do need to be charging people.
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First off this isn't hate mail so I'm sorry if you take it that way. But I agree it's pretty op (it's one of those things that if I'm doing bad and get mad I start spamming it haha) but it does have its downfalls. If you jump and glide when you see him he will miss cause to do the shoulder charge you kinda have to run out of control. So if you jump and glide you will dodge it and should have an easy kill. Also the Titan never wins the battle against the arc blade. You'll take his shield all the way down but won't do any damage to his health.
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6 RepliesI'll agree to nerf the shoulder charge if the faggy warlocks get their supers nerfed along with the gay ass hunters blade dancer (aka auto 5-6 pvp kills...). I think this is the first time I've heard someone complain about titans being OP... If anything, I feel VASTLY underpowered as a titan... Using the defender shield in PvP is pointless if every other class can not only take out your shield, but kill you with their supers... Retarded to say the least.
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We don't need more nerfing haven't we had enough. PTW I am a warlock mostly If they should do something thay should puff. NO! JUST NO! TO NERFING YOU HEAR!.
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Its actually difficult sometimes... stuff up the timing and your dead...
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Before you can judge, level up your weak ass Titan and try to use it. It takes skill to wield it properly and you have a small window to use it.
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4 real. The blaeedancer gets hos one hit kill and the warlock too. So i dont see the problem. Bladedancer can kill enemys onehit from behind, if u have Killed the bonus dmg. Sunsinger can skill the afterburn and that will onehit kill not allways but often. The funslinger gets his throwing knife nearly onehit on ditance. So i dont see a reason why the titan sould not have someting equivalent. I mean thw titan needa to run bout 3 seconds so he can charge and gets only a 3 sec window or hw cant charge anymore. Get real man, The charge is not op. Its strong but not op.
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Yea Don't nerf it to an extreme but a one hit ko is a little over kill
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One thing i would like to see is a more apparent visual que that charge is active, its a little subtle to see when in the fight. Golden gun aura is pretty clear, that would make it more obvious. No nerf. ( i am a level 28 titan and support the shoulder charge, just make it a little easier to tell its active for opposing players) [i]oh and it probably shouldnt count someone holding sprint down during lift as charging, all the bonus is supposed to be generated by running so how do you build up speed from running if floating. Cool if you sprint to get it then jump but lift+height lets you charg just in the hangtime.[/i]
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I lag so bad that 3 hits is a one hit kill on me!
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O no! Waaaaaa waaaa. U gotta cry louder for DeeJ to hear u baby
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I hope you realize to use shoulder charge you have to sprint at your target to get in range and they have plenty of opportunity to kill you. This is why the ability is not "OP" as your target has many chances to kill you as you charge at them.
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4 Replies100% agree. No melee should be a 1 shot or all melee should be a 1 shot.
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1 ReplyI can see why you would complain but you must realize that the titan needs to run for a decent amount of time before the ability can be activated. This means that the Titan must be aware of the distance between him and his target. Also turning corners is impossible while running so that hinders the shoulder charge. But the one hit melee is annoying. I rarely get kills with shoulder charge, instead I use is as a means for a boost. I personally wish there were no such thing as a one hit anything.
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I stubbed my toe on my couch today, it was a one hit kill, please nerf my couch
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1 ReplyTitans are the slowest class. Youre argument is invalid. Please try again with less complaining. Boom i just hit you with an OP reply. Waaaaaaaaaaaa baby waaaaaaaa. Stop complaining about OP this and OP that. Bungie monitors the stats and will bring balance as they see fit. Improvise, adapt, and overcome. Maybe you shouldnt be trying to go toe to toe with a titan in CQB.
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4 RepliesI play hunter and warlock and no they should not remove the charge. Its the only thing going for the striker class lol and honestly not that much of a problem