Bf4 is only 60fps during single. Which then yes it's 60 fps for the part of the game that may not even be played. And watchdogs is not even close. Not on current and not on next gen. Motorsport advertised 60 fps and played 30 fps. I have these games man. I play them. I enjoy them. I expected 60 and rarely got it. It's ok that they aren't 60 fps. Real fact is if you aren't a super intense gamer you aren't going to really care. Yeah it looks better. But it isn't a game changer or more games would be 60. Also I love how since you don't like killer instinct and knack that they some how don't count for the "give me one game on next gen that isn't 60 fps." Just another example of how you just want to argue to try to prove right instead accept that it's okay. The funny thing is I was actually more irritated with you complaining about Sony getting dlc a year early when Microsoft has been doing the same thing (obviously not a year, that is a bit extreme) with call of duty. While I agree with you (didn't see that coming did you?) that it is not good for the consumer and is destructive, Xbox owners have very small room to complain. Very small. Sadly it's about money and I don't think all of this fighting is even going to get any where about it cause companies want money and if that means giving Sony or Microsoft content first then that is going to happen. Let me just say that I didn't mean to cause offense with my first comment. I found it a little amusing and honestly I should have just let it go. But there are so many people today that get pulled into the lies that these companies set in front of our faces and then we believe cause we want to. Like how the 360 (which I love and by means am bashing right now, just using an example) could play games in 1080p. No game do the 360 played I In 1080p. But since the system had the ability to "build up the resolution" to 1080p it played in 1080p. Just something for them to put out to make it look better. Whatever. It doesn't matter. If some one wants to buy it then buy it. I did knowing that. Why? Cause I wanted the stupid console and games.