Allow to me assist with any PvP woes you may be having with a post I did this morning: [The Right Way to Play PvP. Discuss.]This is a matter of opinion. After extensive matches and reading everyone's experiences on the Feedback link, I wanted to point a few things out. Please add your own thoughts. 1. Yes, the vehicles on the moon are OP vs someone who is on foot, but they shouldn't be removed. You have at your disposal your Super, grenades, heavy ammo, or some smart shooting to take them out. If you still don't like em, try driving them yourself more often or just stay inside the facility. 2. So you can't turn on a dime or 360 turn? I've noticed it too. Trust me, I hated it at the start, UNTIL I realized that Bungie would rather you focus on strategy than running and gunning. Once I focused on that I did much better and I adjusted how I stopped to look around. 3. Hate how the radar gives away your position? Yeah, that seemed a little annoying at first. But you can see the enemy too! Rather than lurking around hoping to find someone or being surprised by people who know the map better than you, you'll at least have an opportunity to position yourself, select the best weapon for the environment, and hopefully get excited about having a legitimate duel with someone. 4. Still think the Super's should be removed? No no no. One, they help against vehicles. Two, nothing feels better when you get to use it to clear a room of opponents to keep them from capping a position. It can really help swing the momentum around. Here's a hint: don't hold your Super back! I used to only have 1 Super per match but now I use it at least 3 times a match. And it can be strategic for your teammates by leaving orbs of light so they can use their Supers sooner. 5. "But the Titan's Super can't be aimed" and "it needs crosshairs". Well, it can be aimed...eventually. If you check your Titan's Striker sub class upgrades you'll notice its a future upgrade for when you level up past 8. Crosshairs won't be necessary. Be patient and all will be fine. 6. Still feel that other players' weapons are OP compared to yours? Yup, been there. BUT, after a little research you'll find that the Impact of a weapon plays a larger role in PvP than Attack. You might have a lower level weapon with major Impact that you aren't using yet that can help you! 7. Getting crushed in Iron Banner and don't know why? If you've recently joined the BETA and haven't asked around, realize that Iron Banner takes into account your weapons and gears true numbers and upgrades. Bring your best if you want to last. 8. Bummed you can't talk to anyone? Same here! All we can do now is create a fire team before we enter the Crucible, but make sure you do if you want an extra pair of eyes on the battlefield. Keeping posting to Bungie about adding chat. Until then, keep dancing when you cap your position! So, any thoughts? Agree or disagree?[][/quote]

Handicaps in any competitive game would destroy that game's competitive play. Crucible is about skill and if handicaps are handed out, that skill is meaningless. I'm sure the final game will have some form of matchmaking, so players won't get matched with people who are way better than them.

This is all about learning the gameplay. If you're really good, you don't have that much improvement to make, honestly. Bad players have a lot more improvements they can make. You just have to practice. You can't just get a free ticket to being a good PVP player. Everyone starts out as a scrub. A system which put together matches based on a skill would be good, but a handicap for bad players, no.

An algorithm to match players of similar skill level like in Halo 2 and 3 would be nice. That system wasn't perfect but it was decent at making sure you didn't get your ass handed to you too badly in a consistent manner. I've been on both ends of the spectrum. Lopsided matches have happened a lot in my experience. Winning or losing they're not as fun... although the winning side is certainly better than the losing one.

No. Use the pve to get better and then play the PvP.

If people are bad at PVP they shouldn't play. The crucible is a gentleman'a combat arena to home skills of those who are worthy. If you can't make it, don't play it.

Played one game, 1 kill & 18 deaths, wasn't even sure where I got the kill. For me, you have hit upon the fundamental flaw with PvP, the good get better & the not so good just give up, shame but that's the way it is. I am loving the rest of it though :)