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4/21/2014 5:23:39 AM
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This sums up American Christianity for me. They want the pretty sermons, the singing and false sense of moral superiority, but none of the costs or gruesome imagery associated with it. According to their beliefs that shit went down like that. Yet they can cry about a war on Christmas when a rabbi wants to put a Menorah up in the Denver airport, but not look at the bloody spectacle their entire religion is founded on less little Timmy gets a nightmare.
The hypocrisy is mind numbing.
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Hey, your prejudice and bias are showing.
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OK. My prejudice and bias are in reaction to that shown to me. Last I checked, open Christians are allowed to serve in public office in every state and principality. Can atheists say the same? If a religious person or group wants to use public money to put a cross on public lands, how are atheists portrayed when they speak out against it? Now, how are Muslims in the US treated? What about alternative beliefs, like Wicca. If a group of students wanted to form a Wicca group in school, would it be smiled upon? Yet a prayer group is. What if at graduation, a Muslim Student wanted to lead a call to prayer and prostrate themselves to Mecca. At a public school. How would they be treated? No, I think you know the answer to any of the questions above, and love and tolerance isn't the answer. American Christians act in a hateful, insular and intolerant way. Worse, they seemingly only want the Disney-esque version of their own religion that only teaches that they personally are loved, and there is no sacrifice or negativity needed for them or shown to them. So, yeah, MY prejudice and bias are showing. They should be, I am sane.
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Dude. You're generalizing in an [i]extreme[/i] way. It's the equivalent of me saying all Followers of Islam/Muslims are terrorists. A small minority are. But, it's a falsehood.
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Not really at all. I asked above: Is there a state or principality in the USA that limits Christians from serving in office? Now, I would challenge you to find a number, without using a personal anecdote, that shows that Christians do more for charity than non-Christians. This measures how much a group is willing to sacrifice for anything. Are there good Christians that walk the talk? Yes. Are they the majority? No. Not in the slightest. I'm not going to prove they aren't, its up to you to prove they are. As I see it, most American Christians aren't good people. They are judgmental, they don't want to sacrifice anything and live a farce of their faith. An Italian Catholic is closer to god in the way they live than an American Christian.
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Edited by Broseph Stalin: 4/23/2014 1:56:05 AMThe fact that you're unwilling to justify your argument and just tell someone to rebutt it makes me really question the validity of your argument even more so than you previous posts make me. First off, you called the majority of American Christians double standard supporting bigots based off of major news stories. It's hard to find less credible sources than that. The people who make these headlines are the minority, that's indisputable. The reason why you hear nothing but bad things about religious people is because news outlets know that people will eat those stories up. No story about a Christian group giving money to support R&D on a cure for cancer will make national news. The media wants to make everyone, everywhere look bad, and you've completely bought into it. Now I have no idea what your experiences with Christian people are, but it's rather clear it was awful. But if you went into a church during mass, do you honestly believe that the vast majority of those people are bigots? You need to stop believing everything you see on r/atheism. Stop taking the moral high ground because you're an atheist. Your posts in this thread prove you're no better than the disgusting people you make Christians to be.
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wat [quote]Your generalizations are mind numbing.[/quote]
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Except when they aren't. This is a fairly accurate description of how American Christians behave themselves. Every time I see a "War on Christmas" or some asshole linking a Fox "news" story about Christians being persecuted, I see just what I wrote. Maybe you in particular are not like that, but most American Christians are. Willing to go to church on Sunday, but that's it. And only when the pastor leaves out the really ugly stories. You don't hear about all that many people doing more than dropping loose change in the charity bin, and next to none volunteering their time. They act like their faith is beyond question, and act offended and scandalized when it is. They are offended that there could be even the notion at another religion and are often hostile to those who do believe differently. Again, maybe YOU aren't that way. Maybe you defy this. Unfortunately the majority of American Christians DO act just like this. This is where the 'Murrican stereotype comes from. Its a stereotype founded mainly in truth about a culture that has become poisonous.
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And, um, I have no idea why I'm getting notifications on my mobile device for my main. This is weird.
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None of the Christians I know act like this. Your generalizations are awful. You can't base your entire view of a certain group of people based off of your experiences with them. It'd be like me saying "all atheists are militant high ground jerks who think anyone else are idiots" because of my experiences with them.
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None of the Christians YOU KNOW act like this. Yet every single time a group makes the news, every time they effect beyond what YOU KNOW its just what I described. The world extends way beyond the little bubble of what and who you know. Its not the few, its the many. And its a societal level problem. And if every time you turned on the news, every time you opened a news paper and saw militant atheists acting this way, that would be a fair statement. Unfortunately, aside from the safe anonymity of being online, we tend to avoid identifying ourselves as atheists publicly, as we are often the target of discrimination.
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Radicals make good news stories. Christians helping a charity in their town do not. You can't rely on the media for an accurate representation of life-- news has become an entertainment business.
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Ignore him he is a confirmed troll and anti-Semite.
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Umm... Where am I an Anti-Semite? Troll, sure I do troll. So do you. So does everyone on this site (or at least a poor version of trolling) but anti-Jew? Please, do, look over my entire post history. Find it for me.
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Or He's just liberal with a different viewpoint than I have?
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The stories happen with a regularity.
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So what? The media has obviously realized that such stories sell, right? So they report them when they happen as much as possible.
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Public displays and lots of them. I haven't heard of an Imam trying to get Islamic symbols on a courthouse, yet I've read no less than three stories about Christians doing just that.
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Your generalizations are mind numbing.
