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Edited by Mags: 2/4/2014 12:24:12 AM
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Kerry: Our Syria Policy Failing

[quote]In a closed-door meeting, two senators say, the Secretary of State admitted to them that he no longer believes the administration’s approach to the crisis in Syria is working. Peace talks have failed, he conceded, and now it's time to arm the moderate opposition—before local al Qaeda fighters try to attack the United States. Secretary of State John Kerry has lost faith in his own administration’s Syria policy, he told fifteen U.S. Congressmen in a private, off-the-record meeting, according to two of the senators who were in the room. Kerry also said he believes the regime of Bashar al Assad is failing to uphold its promise to give up its chemical weapons according to schedule; that the Russians are not being helpful in solving the Syrian civil war; and that the Geneva 2 peace talks that he helped organize are not succeeding. But according to the senators, Kerry now wants to arm Syria's rebels—in part, to block the local al Qaeda affiliates who have designs on attacking the U.S. (Kerry's spokesperson denied that he raised the issue of supplying weapons, but did not dispute the overall tenor of the conversation.)[/quote] Personally, I agree with McCain, Graham, and now what appears to be John Kerry. What we're doing is not enough to end the bloodshed (and widespread human rights violations done by the Assad regime), not enough to ensure the chemical weapons are secure, and not enough to contain the raging al-Qaeda threat inside Syria. We know that al-Qaeda forces inside Syria [i][b]do[/i][/b] pose a direct threat to us ([url=http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/clapper-syrian-al-qaida-attack-us-22283284]source[/url]), so something must be done to contain that threat. As for what, I have previously outlined arming opposition forces as a viable route, and that route was discussed in the main linked article. On the other two concerns, we do have a legal basis for intervention (R2P--or Responsibility to Protect--comes to mind. This UN-mandated policy states that sovereignty is not a right and it is the duty of governments to protect their citizens); the problem is that China and Russia would never agree to a UNSC-approved intervention. We could always bypass the UN, of course. However, I dunno what that would do to the justification at hand. As for the chemical weapons fiasco, sadly there isn't much we can do short of destroying the weapons ourselves. We can only "push" Russia to "push" Assad's regime to work faster. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think the international community, including the U.S or even led by the U.S, should finally start doing something about the chaos in Syria? Do you think that we should take a lesser role? If you believe the latter, how do you feel about Russia's, Iran's and Hezbollah's involvement in the civil war?

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  • Have they caused any harm to the American people? No? Then it's none of our concern.

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    • What would an intervention in Syria even look like?

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      • This is not our problem. Let Syria, and other countries, deal with their issues as we have no need to be dragged into pointless conflicts. George Washington warned us about getting involved with world affairs and it's time we take a more isolationist approach but only offer support if it's asked and begged for

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        I do feel sorry for the Syrians caught in this bloody mess, aside from the nasty civil war they have every superpower shoving their arm into the arena to try and play it to their advantage. As batshit as it is, I want Assad to win. He might be a bastard/butcher or whatever, but at least he wasn't some religious feckwit hellbent on Jihad and annihilating the west to get 72 virgins in the afterlife. If the west gets involved and fights Al Qaeda, it will end up like Iraq and Afghanistan. A 'tactical redeployment' where we totally won and 'mission accomplished' and as soon as we pull out, they take over Fallujah and roflstomp the native armed forces. Again. Uh... I haven't slept in a long time so this might all be incoherent. But anyway, that's my 2 cents.

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        • Edited by Dafuq: 2/4/2014 3:44:55 PM
          It's a mess either way. It's not that I don't care, but I don't see a good solution no matter how many times I go over it. Intervene and raise international tensions, increase of terrorist attacks, Iran possibly backing out of nuclear deal and allowing Hezbollah to go ham sandwich on everybody. Or, don't intervene and the so called moderates will ally with Sunni extremist groups completely and it will become even more of a holy war than it is now with god knows what consequences.

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        • Edited by Fallen Hero: 2/5/2014 3:58:43 PM
          [quote]Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told the Senate Intelligence Committee that such al-Qaida groups in Syria have started training camps "to train people to go back to their countries" — one of the newest threats emerging in the past year to U.S. security. He said "al-Nusra Front, to name one .... does have aspirations for attacks on the homeland." Clapper [u]didn't elaborate or offer any evidence[/u] of al-Nusra's desire to attack the U.S.[/quote] Interesting... [quote]"They've gone to school us, on how we try to track them," he said. "So the combination of ...the geographic dispersal and the increasing challenges in collecting against them, makes Al Qaida, in all of its forms, a very -- in total, a very formidable threat."[/quote] So the NSA is pretty much useless?

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        • Edited by Cultmeister: 2/4/2014 3:53:49 PM
          eh a mess made messier by trying to contain the mess? Who'd a thunk it?

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        • [quote]closed-door meeting[/quote] >implying it's top secret when there's an article about it online kek

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          • Should we do something about the Syrian crisis? Yes. Will we? After 12 years of fighting in the Middle East, I doubt we will see anything close to a majority approval of doing so.

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            • Edited by The Asgardian94: 2/4/2014 2:36:23 PM
              Relevant.

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            • Edited by xX PRO SNIPER Xx: 2/4/2014 6:58:04 AM
              Lol. Let Europe get off their collective asses and do something about it for once. America has it's own shit to worry about.

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              • I think we should just let it sort itself out and not get involved.

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