interesting the new maps sound fun specially with new Forge stuff and l dont really care for the new hoppers tho l think l will be the only one to miss VIP l think Sol Knightt will be really dissapointed as l doubt they will change the AR

Sol Knightt , not 5 players , but 8 like halo2 and def not allowing 4 player games

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sol Knightt [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] X Treme Talent why would you assume team snipers would be brought back when pretty much everyone was annoyed with it in the first place? second, team tactical offers a lot of team sniper games. i just want team hardcore to not be crap. they need to increase BR damage and the game speed by 10% [/quote] @ X Treme Talent: Dude, it's not like anyone was FORCED to play Team Snipers. There ARE people who love sniping and would like the playlist back you know. -.- I'm thinking you just suck with a sniper. o.O Oh wait, but what's this I see on [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=Birdy%20Man%20Bird]your career stats[/url]?! Sniper is your second weapon of destruction? Why don't you want it then? Lmao. Ah hem, and what fun is Team Tactical when the score to win a round is 5? t[/quote] the main reason i dont like team snipers is because it usually boils down to connection. like all swords gametypes, usually the person or team with the better connection wins.

Good update, but still nothing on the various armor perm problems? And BR starts? I was really, really hoping we wouldn't go down this road again. BR starts single handedly made Halo 2 a lot less fun to play.

I think its great that territories is being replaced by something else like that land grab/ king of the hill thing. I never like territories too much. I didn't like how the defending team can spawn at a flag area that the attack team is trying to capture and just kill them all. Bring back team pistols in Team Tactical/SWAT or whatever they have now. I liked the one they had in Halo 2.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] X Treme Talent why would you assume team snipers would be brought back when pretty much everyone was annoyed with it in the first place? second, team tactical offers a lot of team sniper games. i just want team hardcore to not be crap. they need to increase BR damage and the game speed by 10% [/quote] @ X Treme Talent: Dude, it's not like anyone was FORCED to play Team Snipers. There ARE people who love sniping and would like the playlist back you know. -.- I'm thinking you just suck with a sniper. o.O Oh wait, but what's this I see on [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=Birdy%20Man%20Bird]your career stats[/url]?! Sniper is your second weapon of destruction? Why don't you want it then? Lmao. Ah hem, and what fun is Team Tactical when the score to win a round is 5? @ Bungie: Uhh, that's great you're bringing more variety to Halo 3 and all, but couldn't Team Hardcore and Ranked BTB wait? Other playlists need to be created such as SWAT and Team Snipers, but more importantly the weapons, melee, and layout of weapons on maps need to be fixed. The needler is too damn strong, one well placed melee hit takes down all my shield leaving me open to die by a couple bullets from the AR, and maps are unbalanced such as Guardian in which the team that starts by the shotgun has a HUGE advantage. Also, I thought the "noob combo" was fixed (charged plasma pistol and some other dual wield weapon/melee), but aparrently it's only harder to aim but still works. Wtf? Lastly, I think adding another person to Lone Wolves for a total of 6 people was completely unnecessary and made the game unbalanced. In case you don't have time to read that (and you should, it's not much), here's a list of things I would like to see in an upcoming update (perhaps sometime after new year's): 1.) Weaker Melee 2.) Weaker Needler 3.) Fix the noob combo (plasma pistol) 4.) Team SWAT playlist 5.) Team Snipers playlist 6.) Lone Wolves be reset to the original 5 people 7.) Infection playlist 8.) Balanced Weapon layouts on maps (it was mentioned awhile back, but bring it soon) 9.) Lastly, stop spawning me right next to my team mates who are actively engaged in battle. I've died and/or barely escaped when that happens, particularly on Snowbound. (sigh) I know it sounds like I'm whining, but the things I listed NEED to be looked into at least (if not given a priority to be fixed). Oh, and if you go see my profile and notice how many beat downs I have, it's not because I abuse the melee, I simply always have a shotgun/mauler, shoot, THEN beat down. I don't shoot 5 bullets with the assault rifle into someone, and then smack them down. That's dedonculus. -.- It happens to me so much, it's disgusting. Thanks Bungie for the work you do, but I think your time could be spent more wisely by not doing only what you and a FEW people want, but instead listenening to the majority of players. Lol, have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. ^^ Signed, Sol Knightt [Edited on 12.08.2007 3:10 PM PST]

I honestly don't see how you can charge somebody for a map pack. And 800 MS points? 200 and I'll think about it.

why would you assume team snipers would be brought back when pretty much everyone was annoyed with it in the first place? second, team tactical offers a lot of team sniper games. i just want team hardcore to not be crap. they need to increase BR damage and the game speed by 10%

no word on snipers...which is -blam!-, guess i'll settle with thc until bungie gets there head out of their ass and bring back one of the most successful playlists in halo.

Anything about a team snipers playlist? no snipers...this is ridiculous.

Anything about a team snipers playlist? no snipers...this is ridiculous.

no snipers...this is ridiculous.

where is team snipers

I just remembered why I love bungie sooo much Bringing back Hardcore you say? YES! Bringing Ranked BTB you say? (The ultimate halo experiance) W00T W00T PWNZORZ Matchmaking playlist for new map junkies? SWEET MOTHER OF GOD! YES SOOO HAPPPY! EDIT: HATE M$ Age restriction update, luckily for me, my xblive acct is all in my mom's name, and its an adult acct [Edited on 12.08.2007 12:49 PM PST]

I guess Bungie will continue to ignore this issue, but what about Team SWAT ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? The amount of '?'s may increase my chance of getting heard... sad but true. I really wonder why there's not one single word about it in the update. (I'm not a whiner, I think the update is going to be great! But where's Team SWAT?) [Edited on 12.08.2007 12:52 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halodevildog I have a question, If Iam only 17 can I still download the new maps? This new update has made it so that you cant download anything M rated even though it says 17+ on the box [/quote] Wow, thats a load of BS. -blam!- you ESRB!! Oh and, what is team hardcore? [Edited on 12.08.2007 12:43 PM PST]

Good news. Looking forward to the new maps. Now if only the fix for the melee system was ready...

I am excited about the new maps. Good break down on playlists soon to come/change. Happy Halodays to everyone at Bungie, have a safe and fun filled break.

wow, this update could have just said, "Ranked big team battle and the return of team hardcore" and i would have been satisfied. that news is HUGE!!! What a great update, Good luck against "The Scoot" Frankie, your going to need it!

Anything about a team snipers playlist?

Rock! I'm getting excited for the future!

What pray tell could be possibly wrong with the melee system???HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Nice one Bungie. We ask for you to fix the game and what do you give us??? F/ing Soccer????One thing is for sure, bungie can sh1t the sheets like no ones' business.

Any update on when the Melee system will be patched?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] odin1156 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] smplguy Team Control playlist!!!!!! ... AWESOME!!!!!!! Finally ... for a minute there I thought the MLG whiners won this update. Totally looking forward to this.[/quote] MLG whiners? thats pretty funny...you know i have an MLG team put together and oh what a surprise we havent whined about anything....the fact that we want Hardcore which actually takes SKILL instead of BTB which by the way people only like because of the fact that the games last like 20 minutesand people can get more than 5kills...its so ridiculous that you would say anything about MLG people I mean just because we like small mps that take strategy precision and skill doesent mean that when bungie decides to add BTB ranked that we are going to be like OMG SERIOUSLY WHY havent you made the only playlists that are ranked TS THC and DT i mean those are the only ones that take skill.....no we just sit back say hey sweet Hardcore...Oh cool they are adding BTB ranked...thatll be less nubs we have to slaughter in THC i have a feeling im going to get blacklisted for saying all this but seriously stop whining[/quote] BTB takes just as much skill as Hardcore(i am a hardcore fan)becuz there are more people to kill constantly and u have to keep places guarded or go after the objective. If me and my friends wanna play something alittle more relaxed we play BTB.So im glad that both will be there thanks bungie for the update

BadAzzEclipse your a moron. I think I hate Halo 3 more then the avg. person. But when I rant about how much I hate the game, I bring up good points, instead of using broken english that people cant even read. It is obvious that you are 9 years old, and probably dropped out of school already. Do I think Hao 2 is better, yes. But I say it like a person, not a stupid little 9 year old crack addict, that got abused by his grandma.

Ranked BTB...meh THC...ooooohhh YEEEAAAAHHH!!!!