Let me begin by saying I'm in no way am I trying to disparage Batman as a character. Both he and Superman are my favourite superheros equally in different ways. Now that that's out of the way, let me begin. This thread has inspirations from Gojira/Kal/Roach's thread, but I'm here to address the issue more directly to the fans. As you all know, a new Superman/Batman movie is being developed. As exciting as this is, it doesn't look to be heading the right way shall we say. The announcement was kickstarted by this quote : "I want you to remember my hand at your throat. I want you to remember the one man who beat you." Now for those that don't know, this is a direct quotation from the graphic novel The Dark Knight Returns, where Batman very loosely defeats Superman and utters that sentence to him. It's pretty obvious that Snyder is going to take some inspirations from the comic book. So why is this is a bad thing you ask? Well, for one it's the ultimate Holy Grail for all Bat tards to refer to in their attempts to repudiate or degrade Superman as a character. I understand it's early days, but this is not a good sign. If Snyder/Goyer does go for the "BTAMN IS TEH WINRAR, SOOPRMAN IS TEH SUKKER" approach, then they will be more concerned with catering to the masses, instead of actually respecting the source material. So finally, the point of this thread was to highlight the fact that in canon, Batman has very rarely defeated Superman. In actuality, it's Superman who has kicked Batman's ass multiple times. So, if this movie does take the Frank Miller approach, I want you to remember they're taking one big shit on the canonical source material, and be prepared for the Bat tards. [i]Be prepared.[/i] TL;DR: If the new Batman/Superman movie has Batman kicking Superman's ass, then the movie is one big catering to the masses, instead of respecting the source material.