I know how to build a gaming rig for $500, but not one that will last a decade. The consoles don't need to be upgraded or replaced to keep playing new games. I can get a rig now for $500, but then I have to replace the GPU, then a better processor, then a faster drive. Now there's an new OS. That $500 has grown quite a bit, hasn't it? I'm not looking at the now, I'm looking for the best investment over time. Yearly subscription are cheaper than replacing parts as they become outdated, especially since I just get a year of LIVE as a gift for either Christmas or my Birthday almost every year. PC deals and cheap games exist, but I buy games new. New games aren't really that much cheaper on PC, if they're cheaper at all, and I already get the cheap older games off of steam to run on my laptop. [quote]So not only are you gonna pay for sub-par games on an inferior system. BUT you are actually saying that you prefer an inferior update on a sub-par product.[/quote] I don't know what sub-par games you are referring to, but I've spent hundreds and hundreds of hours enjoying myself tremendously on console. As for being a sub-par product, that's a matter of perspective. It's like the difference between a really shiny car that has to have really expensive maintenance done regularly, and a less shiny car that doesn't have to be worked on at all until your replace it. If both cars cost about the same amount, which would you buy? I'd get the one that will last longer, even if it isn't quite as nice. Exclusives are a genuine reason to buy a particular console. There is not a single PC-only game that I want that won't run on my laptop. Just be honest, you game on PC because you're willing to spend more money for game to look a bit better. When people say they are getting the new consoles for graphics, that is relative to the current consoles, not to PC. PC will always look better, but it will always cost more, and will always last for a shorter time.