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Bungie Weekly Update: 11/30/07

Applying soothing unguents to the Internet's furious rage, one calming paragraph at a time. The Weekly Update. [url=/news/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=13019] click for full story [/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MasterChiefMV Well, nice going! I`m just a little bit concerned about skill levels. For example: a friend of mine and myself were involved in a 3 on 2 matchup last night, [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=170146764&player=MasterChiefMV]click here for the stats of that game[/url]. We led almost through the whole match, but ended up losing 50-46 against a greater force in numbers. Now after the match I went down a rank (I even scored better than the best man form the oppsoing team!), as a reward for performing so well against greater odds. Things like this happen a lot, which is the only real complaint I have about online Halo 3. Keep up the good work! [/quote] Your the one that lost the game, [b]technically[/b]. -4 Leader on your team had 0 K/D spread. Am I right? Oh yeah, 5 maps for $10 dollars. [Edited on 12.02.2007 5:52 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KSI Blackhaze I has'es a Question. I heard that u can place man cannons, all the foundry I tems and holodoors. Can we place them in other maps, like put man cannons on the other side of narrows, or put a holo-door on the sword room in the pit?[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KSI Blackhaze Sorry for double posting, but has bungie announced the *secret item* either?[/quote] they said in the article that the forge items in the new map will not be available in the original h3 maps and no the secret item has not been announced and they wont announce it otherwise it wouldnt be a secret also i really really really really really really really really want them to make remakes of the halo computer game maps

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  • what's next for bungie? will the Xbox originals Halo CE (the Downlodable one) have online multiplayer and guide features? 'cause if it don't have halo pc online multiplayer, what's the point? 99.97% of xbox owners already have it, and probably won't spend 15 bucks and valuble hard disk space when it could be used for H3 DLC. when will you guys make a new Marathon?

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  • Sorry for double posting, but has bungie announced the *secret item* either?

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  • I has'es a Question. I heard that u can place man cannons, all the foundry I tems and holodoors. Can we place them in other maps, like put man cannons on the other side of narrows, or put a holo-door on the sword room in the pit?

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  • One thing I'd like to see from bungie is clan support for halo 3. In my opinion, halo 3 will not have the playability that halo 2 did without it.

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  • Fix the Halo 3 Elite Commando Armor Left and Right shoulder it says mine are still locked and i have 49 of 49 Halo 3 achievments!! Im so pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AJ Ranger

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  • I really love BUNGIE too... And standoff looks like the best halo 3 map ever made !!! the best in graphics, in gameplay, and the largest ! Can't wait to play it ! COME ON, 11 DECEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND please BUNGIE pleaaaaase ! ... CREATE A REMAKE OF THE HALO 1's BLOOD CRUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will pay !!!!!! the price you wan't !!!! 5000 microsoft points if you want !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Edited on 12.02.2007 2:37 PM PST]

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  • i <3 bungie :]

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  • Team Hardcore and some other goodies you won't discuss now? Team SWAT I wonder? :D:D:D

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  • Hey Im tryin here gimme so mo time.Im using Snowbound

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  • Can't w8 till the new maps come out

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  • Bam. All illogical complainers and haters just got served via Frankie and the Weekly Update.

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  • 800mp = $10 Say 500,000 of the million-and-whatever Halo 3 players buy the maps = $5,000,000 microsoft takes 20%? = 5,000,000-1,000,000= 4,000,000 tax takes 10% ? = 5,000,000-500,000= 3,500,000 bungie requires a reasonable 20% profit margin= 3,500,000 -(5,000,000x 20%)= 2,500,000 Assuming bungie makes the maps back to back and it takes 2.5 months to make a map that costs 833,333.33 per map/ 333,333.33 per month/ and will pay 13.3 people with a $120,000 salary during the time it takes to make each game. I guess the price isn't too bad. I'm just hoping that the maps are good enough to justify the amount of work they put into them. :D I <3 Bungie P.S. I'm doing this with the understanding that my numbers are waaaaay off, but who cares, the end justifies the means...in my head. And come to think of it my corporate income tax should be more like 27% but probably more than half of Halo 3 players are gonna buy the maps, so it evens out. [Edited on 12.02.2007 8:08 AM PST]

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  • man if they do do that (huh wait i said do-do...) oh ya anyway if they do do that Mario cart thing that will be awsome along with the remakes, i cant wait, also i hope they make Greaves(leg armor) and Boot augmentations as well. Maybe even a new down loadable weapon or 2

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] superjonboy Well good to hear you guys are working on stuff. I dont care about the new map prices, the only people who do are little kids or people who steal all their music offline. I dont care a lot about truskill, probably because i have never ad any real issues with it, although I'm not really all that good at halo if you go by k/d ratio (I'm 35 in lone wolves though).. I have heard there are problems with the sniper, but I probably just suck with the sniper too, its definitely harder to use now in halo 3. One of the few complaints I have at all still is the melee. Its garbage, and i hope you guys are going to make it like it was in halo 2 again. I dont care if I supposedly was getting robbed on my melees left and right,I never knew it so I was fine with how it worked, because most of the time I was able to predict if i could kill someone with a melee or not. I cant do that anymore So please stop rewarding slowness,I think a lot of us would appreciate it. The only other thing I have had an issue with is the condescending treatment of a lot of fans by Bungie lately. I realise that there are always the idiots who dont read any other posts or check weekly updates or anything at all, but those of us who do probably would like to be treated like intelligent people with something legitimate to add to the converstion. I dont know how many time a fan posted a great argument about melee with videos, and got told it was garbage because of silly, trivial little reasons,(by a bungie employee) while the rest of us knew right away how it had proved its point. And as far as the whole adult thing bungie, I hope you guys dont ever do anything again like you did with the recon. You treated us like small children, when you could have told us employees only the first day. I know there will always be cheaters, but most of us are not, so dont treat us like we are all cheaters. Anyhow, here's to a much improved game. [/quote] this guy knows wat hes talkin about

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  • I cant wait for this. Foundry will be very fun to test. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lukems First. [/quote] Haha, of all the people :)

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  • I must say, my girlfriends dad working for Bungie and all, i spend a good deal talking to him about halo 3 and the company he works for. That said, he shares a lot with me about the frustrations he has with the game HE helped make, and how insanely difficult it is to code and implement any fixes for the game, let alone over xbox live, so he runs with what he worked hard to make. Because while it is not perfect, it is still awesome. So while all and every complaint about the major errors in the game are valid, people must understand that Bungie can only fix so many problems, because of the very large amount of manpower and resources it takes. Just becasue they generate a hefty sum of money, keep in mind that the bungie team is not much larger than 100, at least from what i remember from going to one of their picnics. I am mainly aiming this post at the machinima guys, but really this is for everyone to keep in mind. But remember also folks, the squeaky wheel does get the grease, so machinima guys, go post in the respective fourm topics where various movements have been made so that the voice of machinima makers will be heard.

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  • wait didn't i just buy this game in late septemeber =/ now i have to PAY for maps that have come available within the last 3 months of the game release. should these maps have been included in the game I paid $60 for =/ and to top it all of the, game is SUCKS...................

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  • [i]There are many issues that we’re investigating, so bear in mind that just because you don’t see something mentioned here, doesn’t mean we’re not looking into it. It’s almost certain in fact, that we are. We’re already looking into issues with melee, with parties being split unevenly in matchmaking, slow matchmaking, skill levels and much, much more.[/i] [u]have you been looking at the declining numbers?.........And you are still gonna charge 10 bucks for maps?......Maybe in WA, they say...We don't set the prices... on the east coast they say..Don't pee down my back, and tell me its raining.......[/u]

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  • Well, nice going! I`m just a little bit concerned about skill levels. For example: a friend of mine and myself were involved in a 3 on 2 matchup last night, [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=170146764&player=MasterChiefMV]click here for the stats of that game[/url]. We led almost through the whole match, but ended up losing 50-46 against a greater force in numbers. Now after the match I went down a rank (I even scored better than the best man form the oppsoing team!), as a reward for performing so well against greater odds. Things like this happen a lot, which is the only real complaint I have about online Halo 3. Keep up the good work! [Edited on 12.02.2007 4:59 AM PST]

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  • I take just about everything I read map-wise on bungie.net with more than a few grains of salt after they released Construct. I hate that map so much.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Deltasqaud23 BxR isn't that absurd. Still would be a good try to add because the BR isn't what it suppose to be. But hopefully the maps that are thought of "remakes" might include Lockout, best halo map ever BTW. [/quote] Are you kidding? The BxR almost made me stop playing halo 2. Hence the reason I only play team swat, or team sniper. And the BR in halo 3 is exactly how its suppose to be. Halo 3's auto aim isnt as tight as it was in Halo 2, but the power of the BR, imo is the same. I personally was not good at BxRing people in halo 2, which means - you lose. And that fact really sucks. And Bungie acknowledging that and never fixing it really sat uneasy with me.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WhiffleBallTony [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sigmapi103 I quote this from their update "we didn't set the price" and "We ain't accountants". Your seperated from Microsoft, yet you claim you don't set the price, and furthermore it goes on saying you (Bungie) can't figure out how much it costs to put together 3 maps? Seriously, what are you Enron? I can't even believe you would make such statements. How about answering the following question: Who set the price for the new DLC? MS? MS Game studios? And who is doing your payroll if you "ain't accountants"? You "ain't" telling the truth either. Reposted from a locked thread designated as a "repeat". I am not complaining about the price, rather, the inconsistency of the statements made within the update. And no, Xbox Live's TOS does NOT state they set the prices for DLC or as they term it "premium content". [/quote] They don't choose the price. Have you ever been to different supermarkets? The same exact product can cost a different price, right? Basically, it's the seller who decides the price, not the maker. Bungie will decide the price that Microsoft must pay to sell them. The maps are sold through Xbox LIVE Marketplace, not a Bungie-regulated store. Microsoft decides it, not Bungie.[/quote] Yes, I have been to supermakets. They list the "unit price" then they list their price. That doesn;t happen here. In fact they don't even state whom sets the original price in the first place. Again, I REPEAT, Xbox Live TOS does NOT state they price the DLC. So, in essence, we are being lied to. Bungie in fact does set the price.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Flamingwinds REVOLT IM GUNNA START A RIOT FOR THE LOWERING WEAPONESS OF MACHINAMA REPENT REPENT TO ALL MY COMMUNITYS PEOPLE UNITE SO WE CAN TAKE DOWN THE BUNGIE TYRANNNY THAT IS HALO BLARG!*#@# LONG LIVE THE LOWERED WEAPON STANCE OF HALO MOVIES!![/quote] Go start a riot somewhere else, like your room, cause its past your bedtime buddy.

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  • BxR isn't that absurd. Still would be a good try to add because the BR isn't what it suppose to be. But hopefully the maps that are thought of "remakes" might include Lockout, best halo map ever BTW.

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