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originally posted in: The Probable Philosophy of Destiny
Edited by pdw92: 6/30/2013 7:13:44 PM
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This is rather brilliant. Excellent post! Another thing to consider (albeit separate from your own point): when looking at the whole of Destiny, of humanity fighting these alien hostile forces consider it from the perspective of Hegel's Master and Servant and their clash of consciousness. Basically, when two individuals encounter each other, they attempt to dominate each other. When an outcome is met, one exists as the Master (which is an existence for itself) and the other is the Servant (an existence for others). However, both existences yearn for two things: independence and recognition. After the struggle, it is only the Master that captures both. The Servant is left, well, serving. As time goes on, though, the Master faces a crisis: both his independence and recognition is entirely dependent upon the Servant. To make a long and complex philosophical concept shorter and simpler, the Master remains in a static state, while the Servant, through his own work (for his work is a direct reflection of his self-existence), achieves independence from the Master and becomes a true self-conscious. If you look at Destiny, you could probably look at it through the Servant (humanity) coming into their self-existence and breaking away from the Master (aliens) through their work (which is really just literal conflict). So in some cases you, there is a sense of "oneness" through Hegel. Although that words also opens up a whole other can of worms with Taoism. Here's a link to Hegel's work in regards to the Master and Servant: http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/ph/phba.htm
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  • Great post! I've never heard of this master and servant thing, I'll have to do some more reading. Very interesting.

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  • Karl Marx and Friedrich Nietzsche both used some form of the concept (especially Marx). Hegel is an interesting guy who basically thought that history was continuously progressing (the dialectic) and that humans were always getting better. Of course by the end of his life he declared that it was the end of history and that Germany was the epitome of it all, but still a fascinating concept that was an enormous influence on philosophical and political thought even to today. Also, for your further reading: Hegel's quintessential work is [i]The Phenomenology of Spirit[/i], which you can find in full at the link I provided up above.

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