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Why do people hate halo reach? It's my favorite?

Halo 4 was so close to being good, but it was just a sheer amount of little mistakes. I do enjoy Reach more than Halo 4, the TU modes seems to feel more like a Halo game than most of Halo 4's loadout and ordnance randomness. Although, The modding community on Halo 4 is doing amazing things at the moment.

Launch Halo Reach was my favorite Halo game. I can't play it now thanks to 343i's updates and removal of playlists.

I was disappointed with Halo 4 multi-player and the exclusion of Invasion Slayer. I loved playing the covenant, that was my favorite playlist.

People cry over that Reach broke what many know from First Strike or Other Books. Reach has allot of fun stuff to it. -Campaign was fun to do even in co-op -Mutliplayer. So many flavors and types. Classics like Big Team to Swat. Griffball was even more fun then in Halo 3. Head Hunter and Stock pile were causalities as people wanted more kills or familiar ground. Race was well not for online play. Living Was a fun game type it was by far the most popular on Reach. Invasion was pretty good as well. Just allot of people could not stand being the enemy.(Kinda Lame if you play the game type and do not understand it.) -Firefight had allot of fun moments. Competitive play and not to mention hours of off line fun if you like. -Forge was greatly improved as it allowed for great ideas and ways to build things if you wanted to spend time on it. Also Forge had Michinamas made a great deal in reach that so far have out numbered Halo 4. Halo 4 Multiplayer is a mash up from older Halo's that some how mixed in a style of play not Halo like. Its like the people making it cobbled it out of spare parts. -Halo 4 Forge is cartoony like yet is like Halo 3 but mid point with reach as the forge mode is not quite one or the other. Despite the claims 343i did not fix Reach for every one it fixed it for its own reasons to gain favor. They have no idea what they are doing as far as MP so those who cried about the bloom should look at the real reasons for it and It was never in the interest of the 99% Halo 4 Multiplayer should give you an indication about where they are and they did things as a favor so you would buy Halo 4 overlooking the short cuts they took in a rush to get it done. I find it sad when they display a Spartan in a Wheel Chair trying to appeal to kids then this silly idea of a Skill Gap. They have no understanding of the Halo fans as they did not test the game as all complaints or suggestions fall on deaf ears. 343i lives in a land of Master Chiefs as they live secluded and listen to there master Microsoft. 343i is owned and was created by MS for making Halo. They remind me of Seattle Mariners with Ken Griffy Jr and Randy Jonson who had a team that did well yet never was able to get going to win a world series. 343i will also face this unless they make some changes. You can buy the best talent but you cannot buy teamwork and doing things the right way with out rushing, yet set a pace. Like any thing if you rush mistakes will happen and it might be a costly one. Much like a long distance runner at a track.

[quote]population of these two games are neck and neck[/quote]mmmm ... maybe in a set of conjoined twins - lol. Honestly dude, [url=http://majornelson.com/2013/06/26/live-activity-for-week-of-june-17/]go check your facts[/url], Reach at position #14 v's Halo 4 at position #7 ... last time I checked 14 was twice as far down the chart as 7 ??

Halo Reach has the worst Halo campaign. Bland characters, didn't felt that the largest military planet was going to fall, UNSC were horribly incompetent.... George Bungie's swan song to Halo was nothing more then a middle finger to the Halo expanded universe. Halo 4 on the other hand was quite the polar opposite, as it is the first Halo game that made the game and EU universe as one single universe.

To the 9% how voted they both suck ahem WHY THE -blam!- ARE YOU HERE?

Why can't we all just go play H3 again? It's still an option. We should resurrect it. It's infintely better than Reach or 4.

Reach BTB > Halo 4 BTB Reach Forge > Halo 4 Forge Reach Customs > Halo 4 Customs Reach Weapon Sandbox < Halo 4 Weapon Sandbox Reach Firefight > Halo 4 Spartan Ops Reach Vehicles > Halo 4 Vehicles Reach maps = / = Halo 4 Maps Reach Campaign < Halo 4 Campaign Reach Spartan Armor > Halo 4 Spartan Armor Reach Lasting Appeal > Halo 4 Lasting Appeal So, Reach > Halo 4.

I like both.

Halo 4 campaign is superior in every single way. Spartans ops is better then Reach firefight. Reach theater is better then the Halo 4 theater. Reach custom games is better. Halo 4 matchmaking is so much more fun and action packed. I'll go with Halo 4.

Reach was a complete failure in almost every single aspect................no, it was an abomination. halo 4, for all it's fault is still halo at heart and did more than a few well (though it's still not great). You know, I honestly thought people were joking when they said Reach is better than 4, (it's like everyone forgot just how bad reach ) then I realized they were completely serious and died just a bit.

Firefight kicks Spartan Ops's ass any day. Also, anyone else found 4's Multiplayer easier than Reach's?

They're both pretty bad. IMO Campaign - Halo 4 Multiplayer - Reach. Reach was mediocre, 4 is just bad. Forge - Reach Theater - Reach Customs - Halo 4 Overall Quality - Reach

Halo 4 made the plasma pistol powerfull, got rid of fall damage kills, lowered the map ceilings to nothing, took out the falcon and spiker, and is in the process of removing the mongoose from matchmaking (I got insider info). What the hell do I have left to do in that game? It's like they took a look at all the things I did in the game and asked me personally to leave.