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Edited by Quantum:
6/10/2013 10:57:33 AM
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Texas man kills a woman over $150, gets away with it
http://gawker.com/texas-says-its-ok-to-shoot-an-escort-if-she-wont-have-511636423
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SAN ANTONIO (AP) — A South Texas man has been acquitted in the shooting death of a woman he met on Craigslist as a possible escort.
A jury in San Antonio on Wednesday acquitted Ezekiel Gilbert of murder.
The defense says Gilbert was protecting himself from theft when he shot Lenora Frago on Christmas Eve 2009. She died several months later.
Attorneys for Gilbert say he paid the woman $150 to have sex — then she refused, balked at returning the money and said she had to give the cash to her driver. The defense said Gilbert's actions were justified because he was trying to retrieve stolen property and the driver was part of the theft scheme.
Prosecutors say Gilbert got mad and shot Frago when she refused to have sex with him.
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A jury in Bexar County, Texas just acquitted Ezekiel Gilbert of charges that he murdered a 23-year-old Craigslist escort—agreeing that because he was attempting to retrieve the $150 he'd paid to Frago, who wouldn't have sex with him, his actions were justified.
Gilbert had admitted to shooting Lenora Ivie Frago in the neck on Christmas Eve 2009, when she accepted $150 from Gilbert and left his home without having sex with him. Frago, who was paralyzed by the shooting, died several months later.
Gilbert's defense argued that the shooting wasn't meant to kill, and that Gilbert's actions were justified, because he believed that sex was included as part of the fee. Texas law allows people "to use deadly force to recover property during a nighttime theft."
The 30-year-old hugged his defense attorneys after the "not guilty" verdict was read by the judge. If convicted, he could have faced life in prison. He thanked God, his lawyers, and the jury for being able to "see what wasn't the truth."
Anyone else bothered that Texas allows you to shoot people just cause they stole something from you even when you were in no danger?[/quote]
TLDR:
Texas law allows self defense to recover stolen goods.
Woman is paid $150, refuses to have sex.
Is shot, eventually dies.
Note: Prostitution is illegal in Texas IIRC. Since it is an illegal act, the man was entitled absolutely nothing[i], he shot the woman because she refused to commit an illegal act. [/i]
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1 ReplyI didn't know we now consider prostitutes 'people'.
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That's her fault for being a whore. That's how the south works.
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What the shit.
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...She died several months later? Did the bullet just nick an important organ and kill her by inches?
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As my pops told me once; if it ain't propane then it ain't worth botherin'
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Well, I'd do the same thing if someone refused to give my money back. This forum needs to stop getting so butthurt over guns.
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[quote]Gilbert's defense argued that the shooting wasn't meant to kill[/quote]You didn't mean to kill someone with a gun, which was designed for the sole purpose of killing?
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2 RepliesI love Europe.
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They were found innocent. And that's a pretty, how do i put it, "gossipy" web sight. Its headlines are attention grabbers and MaggieLange seems to enjoy her opinions, and is quick to judge others. There is nothing in her sources that indicate he got away scott free. It seems to me that he just was declared innocent in terms of the murder ruling. (correct me if I'm wrong) [quote]he shot the woman because she refused to commit an illegal act. [/quote] This is over simplified, she was willing (or at least it seemed) to sell her body online though Craigslist. By what I know, he is a murder, but the judge and jury disagree and they know a lot more than I. But I still think this is a gross flaw in the justice system, even if I don't have every last fact.
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This is so stupid
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Wtf the -blam!- is this shit
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No wonder people make fun of this sh*tty country.
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America! -blam!-logic!!
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this is hilarious. stay classy tehas.
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And then people wonder why people see the USA and Texas as a backward ass country, when he can aadmit to murder and get off with no punishment.
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4 RepliesWait... He shot her in the neck. How is that without lethal intent? I mean, had he shot her in the leg, or even stomach... Just in the lower center of mass. But the neck? Pretty much ANY shot aimed at the upper trunk, neck or head is with lethal intent. I'm thinking that there is more here going on.
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Edited by Psycho: 6/10/2013 5:07:43 PMYet again, the U.S.A.
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5 RepliesStay classy, Texas. Really, if there was substantial evidence against the man, how come they got acquitted?
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I remember reading about this case and was really puzzled. I too, thought that the defense was framing their case in a very odd manner, especially as a defense against a murder charge with other felonies intertwined. More than anything, I think that closing arguments and the judges instructions to the jury (as to the actual law(s) they would be considering as part of their deliberation) would be the only thing that might possibly help my confusion as to the outcome. But, the prosecution and defense each presented their case, their evidence, their testimony and had the ability to counter the other side's. I can't (with just the facts laid out in a news article) confidently state that I have enough information to say that the jury/judge were "wrong". The State has to (as always) prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt and the accused is and remains innocent until and unless a court convicts them to that standard of proof.
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Just wow.
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4 RepliesAll I can think to say is wow. Even for Texas, that is insane.
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Ya know, if I had never played Fallout NV, I'd have no clue what's going on here
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That's Texas for you. My only problem here is that he used a firearm. That should ALWAYS be considered lethal force. Using lethal force when your life isn't in danger is excessive, and he should have been charged with negligent homicide. But its Texas, and their laws are their laws. Stupid as I find them.
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5 RepliesWhile she didn't deserve to die, she was scamming him. Plus, he shot her non fatally, she died a long time after the incident.
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[quote]Gilbert testified earlier Tuesday that he had found Frago's escort ad on Craigslist and believed sex was included in her $150 fee. But instead, Frago walked around his apartment and after about 20 minutes left, saying she had to give the money to her driver, he said.[/quote] [url=http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Jury-acquits-escort-shooter-4581027.php#ixzz2VpUB4ZJY]Source[/url] [quote]The prosecution argued Gilbert became enraged and shot the escort after she and Perkins attempted to leave with the $150 he paid them without ever getting sex. That's sex Perkins said Gilbert was never going to get. "If I found out you were having sex, you were fired. Period. End of discussion," Perkins said.[/quote] [url=http://www.kens5.com/news/Defense-argues-protection-of-property-in-Lenora-Frago-murder-trial-207937521.html]Source[/url] He hired an escort service that was $300 an hour. He paid for 30 minutes, which he assumed was for sex, but was promised nothing more than an escort. She stayed with him the time he paid for, then tried to leave. Because she did not provide sex, he killer her, and shot up her driver's car. To say she stole from them is to agree that hiring an escort guarantees sex, not just an escort.
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1 ReplyIn most places killing a hooker doesn't even reach the news, let alone the courts. She tried to steal, he shot her non-fatally, she then died nearly a year later. Big whoop. The only thing wrong with what he did was hire a prostitute in the first place.
