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Edited by x Sir G Omer x: 6/10/2013 12:09:29 AM
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A Guardian's Identity in Destiny

For a thread like this, I really wish I was more tech-savvy so I could put together a comprehensive visual to organize my thoughts. Unfortunately, though, I will have to continue with just my words and several links to pictures/art/etc. [i][b]TL;DR[/b] - To make players truly feel like legends -and therefore make Destiny a place that people will want to return to day after day- players must have purposeful/meaningful identifiers and customization that follow their Guardian.[/i] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [u]From the beginning[/u], Bungie has stated that they desire to give every single player a chance to make them self a legend, and that a big part of this mission was to give the player a unique identity in the universe. While games often strive to do this, it is rarely accomplished because either: [quote]A) the items that "set you apart" are too minuscule and are therefore not noticed[/quote][quote]B) there is a lack of difficult unique identifiers, leaving one final destination that all players eventually reach (eg. Inclement Weather in Reach).[/quote] [b]The following are ways that I believe will help Bungie succeed in the goal of making us all feel like legends:[/b] [i]Disclaimer: Most of these things are already being done by Bungie; these are not necessarily original ideas.[/i] 1. [b]Meaningful Social Identifiers[/b]: [spoiler]Over a year ago, Bungie started dropping visuals of that we quickly learned were factions within the game. Since that time, we have seen many additions to this list that are not necessarily limited to factions. At this point, we have confirmed symbols for: factions, enemy races, Guardian classes, guilds, gun manufacturers (okay, that one's not confirmed), and personal symbols (like in Halos). Much like real life, identifying yourself with a group of people or ideals is as simple as wearing a shirt, necklace or insignia. Many people also go to extremes like tattooing or branding their skin as a sign of dedication. In Destiny, I believe that Bungie will need to (they probably already are) create meaningful social identifiers that allow for infinite visual possibilities with my Guardian. [/spoiler]2. [b]True Armor Variation/Customization[/b] - [spoiler]This is one area that I feel has lacked in Bungie's history with the Halo games. I know there has been drastic improvement over the years, but I never truly "bought in" to armor customization (with the exception of Recon, which I will touch on next). I always thought: "I'm gonna look so BLAMin' awesome once I get this armor" until one day I realized that I NEVER looked at or noticed my opponent's armor. Occasionally I would glance over before a match started, but all that really mattered at the end of the day was Red or Blue. For Guardians to feel truly unique in this new universe, armor variation/customization must be OFF THE CHARTS. Creating a few things here or there that [i]technically[/i] give hundreds of thousands of possibilities is not what I'm talking about either. Guardians in Destiny need the chance to say they are literally one-of-a-kind in a sea of thousands. I cannot begin to understand how they will pull this off, but from what I have seen so far, they are well on their way.[/spoiler]3. [b]Prominent & Impressive Consequences[/b] - [spoiler]This last point is more of an overarching theme for all visual identifiers, but I wanted to set it apart because of it's importance. As games become more social, it becomes drastically more important for identifiers to have real meaning. Throughout the Halo's, we saw many identifiers, but not all of them were necessarily meaningful: In Halo: Reach, if you saw someone with Inclement Weather, it simply meant they played A LOT of Halo. Or maybe someone had a flaming helmet, so you knew they downloaded the Bungie app or purchased the legendary addition of Reach. In Halo 3, if someone had Recon, you knew they were patient and skilled enough to dominate the campaign ViDoc challenges with some buddies. In Halo 2, the rank system seemed to be a key indicator of skill, but it didn't really follow that soldier onto the battlefield. It became quite easy to lose track of who was who when you were actually in the fight. It almost seems like Bungie was testing out these identifiers separately over the last 10 years. However, for Destiny to truly create legends, I believe one look at a character should show me all of these things. We need events/achievements/stats to immediately reflect upon our character in a way that gives people a true and full representation of how we play this game.[/spoiler] [b]Let me paint a picture of meeting a true legend in Destiny:[/b] [spoiler][i]Dust spits about everywhere and I back up slowly to give room for the magnificent craft landing mere feet in front of me. This ship is nearly four times the size of my own, and you can tell that it's seen its share of warfare. As the dust settles, I notice 15-20 battle insignia's under the cockpit window, three of them look familiar; I fought hard in those battles as well. The blood-red Cabal Skull brings goosebumps as I remember how heated and intense the battle was and how close we were to failing our mission and foregoing this prize for good. My thoughts are interrupted by the opening of the cargo bay hatch. In perfect unison, the Seven Seraphs BloodLust guild walks out with guns slung over their shoulders, moving with purpose to the Tower Shop where I imagine they will be trading in substantial loot from their last raid. At the rear of the group is the guild leader, signified by his stature, but also by his BloodLust founder cape and Seven Seraphs Sargent chest piece. I also quickly realize that this Guardian is quite proficient on the battle field, for he hosts a trail of black particles dissipating feet behind him, marking him as a Warlock who holds total MP k/d spread of 2.0 or more. What I'm experiencing is not rage towards a player who simply has more time than me, but respect for a player who has invested deeply into this universe we share, and who has kicked some ass along the way. As he leaves my sight, I take one last look at his battled war horse and decide quickly that it is time once again to leave the safety of the Traveler and venture out to earn the legendary status that awaits me.[/i][/spoiler] So what do you think? Do you think we will have the chance to become legends in this new universe? What are some ideas you have that would make YOU feel unique and awesome as you interact with people all over the world? [u]Don't forget to [b]LIKE[/b] the thread so we can bring more people in on the conversation![/u]

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  • I hope Bungie will be able to come pretty close to allowing us to fully customize our characters. It's going to be a tough task because the community are having high expectations about this feature. As far as players becoming legends within the game, we may even encounter a 'fireteam' equivalent to the Azure Knights (Balmung, Orca, Kite) or a guild like the .Hackers. Within the games, anime, and manga, these are players who have become a part of the mythos within The World.

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  • One thing I'd love to see is the ability to paint your clan/group's insignia on walls throughout the map.

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    • For a customization option to impress me these days would take: 1 Face customization using available cameras such as connect. (Play as yourself) 2 Face customization better than Skyrim's 3 Body customization as good as Dragon's Dogma (try the free demo just to look at the customization) 4 Armor color customization as good as Rainbow Six Vegas 2 (how a game so old still has the best armor-custom is amazing) 5 Gun attachment customization (if attachments are available) > none of that Borderlands random horrible scopes BS 6 Unique to Destiny > Changeable/Exchangeable capes Do this and the Future fashion designers will never put this game down.

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    • Make this happen Bungie.

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    • Great Thread, My suggestion is this: the ability to upload a picture of your face to the website and have it uploaded to the game, like Madden 13? I believe it was, let you do.That would be cool. Either that or Face customization options like WWE 12, where you can morph the entire face to create yourself, or whoever you want. I also would like put custom insignias on my armor, ship, home, weapons,.......etc. Also the ability to choose Custom Colors for my armor and ship, weapons, and the ability to customize the interior of my tower home and space ship, and exterior of my ship. And if there are elemental abilities, Ice, Fire, Lightning, etc.......would like to see character outlined in a glow of that element, Ice-Blue, Fire-Orange, Lightning- Purple or Darker Blue(than Ice).......etc.

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      • [b]Y[/b]ou know what else Destiny could use for the sake of individualism? [b]P[/b]rofession titles that highlight characters' motives and desired occupations. [b]P[/b]lease leave your thoughts and feedback on the forum below. [url]http://www.bungie.net/en-us/Groups/Post?id=60816483&groupId=16555[/url]

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        • Hey come check out our pre-destiny clan!! Here's the link: http://vanguardians.enjin.com/home We welcome you with open arms! Please make sure to give a shout out to Corrosive Honor for getting you there! Chancellors names appear in red on the site so feel free to ask them any questions you may have!

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        • Edited by LecomingBegend: 7/23/2013 9:18:34 PM
          Do not let this topic die!!!

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          • This idea is bossege way better than Saussage

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            • I would love to see a black or any color aura trailing behind and around your person if u reach a certain point or did a hard task.. Like black or white smoke or electrical effect.. Like halo reached armor ability. (Stink cloud,thunderclouds, hearts when u die, confetti)... Where u have something unique to your person like I love black and red and spikes so I would have black/red smoke trailing behind me or red lightning around me and jumping on my armor and where I walked.. THAT WOULD MAKE ME FRIKEN EXPLODE WITH HAPPINESS..

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              • I would love to see the Marathon UESC Security armor in Destiny. Not like the 3rd person in game armor that looks like a jumpsuit, but something like the concept art armor.

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                • if I may lend a machete to your intellectual thicket... the reason you never cared or noticed another persons armor choice it because it didn't matter and you had no time to deal with unnecessary details. to elaborate, the armor of your opponents didn't factor in to their effective hitpoints (EHP) or damage/damage per second(DPS) so you didn't notice it. in halo your brain is looking 2 things when you first encounter an enemy that he is an enemy and what gun is he holding. then once those to things are confirmed it decides to kill said enemy and looks at 4 things: where you are going, where you are aiming, your health and ammo, and for your enemy's shield to go down, everything else is ignored. how to change that: if per-say your armor dictated your skill set then it would be observed along with the gun when you encounter an enemy. try playing borderlands 2 or another class based shooter to confirm this, you'll realize that you see the difference between nomads and pyro-nomads, or between psychos and suicide psychos because it matters.

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                  • Sound. For example if I was a master of stealth, My footsteps would be light, soft and my armor wouldn't clank around as much as a fully loaded Titan who recently came back from a raid. If I was trained in magic, there'd be an eerie, low pitched sound to my movement that would would change depending on my speed and agility.

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                    • Absolutely fantastic thread! If Bungie does half of the stuff in your encounter, this game will be really deep. It's great the community is pushing individuality. Maybe we'll finally get things that mean something.

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                      • First and foremost, you need to write fan-fiction XD That picture you painted was what I want my experience to be like. Bungie has said multitudes of times that they want players to know where their fellow guardians have come from, where they're at now, and where they're going. I'm expecting to see those visual queues, and I'd be disappointed if I didn't see them. My only concern is that, while looking through the comments, I've seen multiple people gushing over how much they want "flaming armor" or whatnot. I personally don't want something that garish. Maybe a special badge to show you fought in a battle, or like you said a cape to signify clan-membership, but I'm hoping for no flames.

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                        • I just watched one of the video's hosted on the GI site and the guy mentioned the ViDoc challenges, how successful they were and how they wanted more things like that in Destiny. That got me thinking about this thread and how excited I am for Bungie to allow us to have a unique identity in this new universe.

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                        • Edited by COW GUY: 12/18/2013 9:34:33 PM
                          All I'm hoping for is something that doesn't change he color of your armor for a game. In the halos, what sucks is that, while you can customize your armor, you cant show the colors off. Which is why I hope in destiny you can play a game of multiplayer and not have your armor color changed.

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                        • Amazing

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                            Good post. I really do hope that customization in Destiny massive.

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                          • You have to much time on your hands.

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                            • I like it, and the story drove it home.

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                            • What you've said here sounds a lot like what Deej and other Bungie employees have been saying. Eloquence is not my strong suit, so the point I'm trying to make is that this is a very good thing. I'm confident that a lot of what you've mentioned is represented somehow in Destiny and I can't wait to find out.

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                              • That was a good read, and you presented it really well. I quite liked the story at the end- that really sold it and gave an awesome visualization to your ideas. I very much hope that the customization is like or at least somewhat close to that! :D

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                              • Here are a few ideas. Hopefully they inspire others to post ideas. A red cross medal on your chest for every time you save someone who is moments away from death. Blue smoke over your visit for over 2,500 kills with the nova bomb. A Hunter that has at least a 4.0 kd ratio in multiplayer has armor that automatically blends in with his/her surroundings. A Titan whose armor is the Cabal skeleton, because he killed 7 Cabal with his bare hands.

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                              • Hopefully we see this in game

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                              • Edited by LecomingBegend: 3/22/2014 3:53:38 PM
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