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10/18/2007 9:16:20 PM
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MLG = Terrible Settings **Heated Debate**
So I have been playing with people who do MLG sets, and I have to say, ARE YOU FRICKIN KIDDIN ME !? BR starts with no equipment on the map or any weapons other than Shotgun, AR, BR, Snipe ? Are you serious ? Just when I thought MLG was for the hardcore gamers they take out 80% of what Halo 3 is. If they want those settings so bad, just go back and play Halo 2. Seriously, it's called Major League Gaming, not "Take everything out of the game so you feel more comfortable that you won't get shot in the face with a mauler."
This is my opinion, so if you want to flame, go ahead. Seriously though, stop ruining the game with your noobish game settings. I know most will say "well then don't play MLG." Well you're right, but when people claim that BR starts are what MLG is all about, it saddens me. I mean, do you seriously think that changing the weapon start from AR to BR and taking out equipment is "1337" ? Not at all. Playing the game how it's supposed to be played is the real MLG.
Another thing that just hit me. Are people that bad when they have to rely on BR starts cuz they can't throw a good grenade and finish them off with AR ? Please people, get it together.
[Edited on 10.18.2007 2:26 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Eight Bit [quote]Let me whore you with the rocket launcher for an entire game, spawn killing you then going back to the rocket launcher spawn for ammo, then spawn killing you more and gettting my buddies to corpse hump you and hire some little kids to call you names, and then tell me that you want default spawns.[/quote] Wow, that's awesome, VID ? /sarcasm Listen man. If you're telling me that you know every spawn at every second and when they will spawn there, then good for you. Seriously though, lets not exaggerate.[/quote]Are you -blam!- kidding me? You've NEVER had that happen to you? Wow now I KNOW for SURE that you are a -blam!- noob who has no idea what he's talking about because of his lack of experience in Halo.
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Militaryguns, I can't tell what side of the argument you are on, if any.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] p0t3t0 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Minou They're not limited to rocket launchers... Every single map has at least like 3 noob weapons etc, and some of them have like, 6 or 7. Maulers are a joke. I mean wow. Theres too many of them and they're too powerful. Yeah I use them but only because if I don't I'll get owned, but that doesn't mean that I want them on the map.[/quote] they're too powerful? a shotgun is more powerful than them. i don't really think arguing that a weapon is to strong is a good argument. each weapon has its own strengths and weaknesses, learn to adapt. [/quote]Um if you're close enough to kill them with a shotgun, you're close enough to kill them with a mauler. They're basically equal. Maulers have a 1-2 punch, shotgun has the ability for a 1-punch, but really, all it takes is a tactical and skilled player to get behind the shotty guy and surprise him, etc.
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That's the thing, strafeing has become less effective without the Holy Auto Aim so now they complain. The BR takes more skill to use now, deal with it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Minou [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] p0t3t0 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Minou MLG haters suck. They rely on their rocket launchers. They can't win with anything else. Like seriously. Get some -blam!- skill and learn how to use a BR, noobs.[/quote] thats a harsh generalization. im not fond of MLG, and i almost never pick up the RL, and im pretty sure I'm not a "noob"[/quote]For all I know you could kick my butt in a 1v1. I doubt it but you know what, I don't know. It's not too harsh of a generalization because when do you see a newb winning a game with a br or sniper? Pretty much never. So they get the power weaps and then get an ego boost cause they think theyre good because they can use a newb wep. [/quote] well if these people were so 1337 that they own with a battle rifle, surly they have enough skill to just go and pick one up than depending on spawning with one every time?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Eight Bit [quote]the battle rifle promotes teamwork and is a well rounded skillful weapon[/quote] So you're saying that the BR start gives the whole team inspiration to work well with each other ? Hmm. To use the word "professional" is hilarious. Why are they called pros ? Because they take 80% out of the game, start everyone with BRs, no equipment, and play for cash ? That to me tells me that professional sounds more like a load of crap. If they were really "PRO" they'd keep default sets. 'Nuff said.[/quote] eight bit, what the -blam!- are you arguing about. is everyone on these forums this dense? Look at your career stats and tell me what your most used weapons are, what do you see? you see mlg weapons. Now plz stop being so dense and making excuses and lets start being truthful. You are just bad with a br, so if you start of with a br and battle another person with a br you will lose bc your bad with it on a equal base. EVERYONE LOOK AT YOUR CAREER STATS AND STOP BEING DENSE, YOUR COMPLAINING ABOUT NOTHING ALL YOUR DOING IS FOLLOWING THE CROWD.
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[quote]Let me whore you with the rocket launcher for an entire game, spawn killing you then going back to the rocket launcher spawn for ammo, then spawn killing you more and gettting my buddies to corpse hump you and hire some little kids to call you names, and then tell me that you want default spawns.[/quote] Wow, that's awesome, VID ? /sarcasm Listen man. If you're telling me that you know every spawn at every second and when they will spawn there, then good for you. Seriously though, lets not exaggerate.
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I know, most of the fanboys talk about how it makes strafing more effective if you bump up the speed. Well, there's almost know auto aim anymore, so why don't they just learn to strafe properly at the current speed?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sphincter218 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HaVOk1228 Power weapons don't spawn until they are out of ammo(the Halo2 system). [/quote] if you think that the halo 2 system means that they dont spawn until out of ammo, you need to go play Ascension, get rockets and the banshee. about a minute later you will be getting a rocket shot right at you.[/quote] Not all maps used that system. Ascension and Ivory tower were two exceptions. But a majority of the time, that is how they worked. But it doesn't matter, that's not what I'm arguing. you know what I meant obviously.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Minou They're not limited to rocket launchers... Every single map has at least like 3 noob weapons etc, and some of them have like, 6 or 7. Maulers are a joke. I mean wow. Theres too many of them and they're too powerful. Yeah I use them but only because if I don't I'll get owned, but that doesn't mean that I want them on the map.[/quote] they're too powerful? a shotgun is more powerful than them. i don't really think arguing that a weapon is to strong is a good argument. each weapon has its own strengths and weaknesses, learn to adapt.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Eight Bit [quote]the battle rifle promotes teamwork and is a well rounded skillful weapon[/quote] So you're saying that the BR start gives the whole team inspiration to work well with each other ? Hmm. To use the word "professional" is hilarious. Why are they called pros ? Because they take 80% out of the game, start everyone with BRs, no equipment, and play for cash ? That to me tells me that professional sounds more like a load of crap. If they were really "PRO" they'd keep default sets. 'Nuff said.[/quote]Let me whore you with the rocket launcher for an entire game, spawn killing you then going back to the rocket launcher spawn for ammo, then spawn killing you more and gettting my buddies to corpse hump you and hire some little kids to call you names, and then tell me that you want default spawns.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] p0t3t0 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Minou MLG haters suck. They rely on their rocket launchers. They can't win with anything else. Like seriously. Get some -blam!- skill and learn how to use a BR, noobs.[/quote] thats a harsh generalization. im not fond of MLG, and i almost never pick up the RL, and im pretty sure I'm not a "noob"[/quote]For all I know you could kick my butt in a 1v1. I doubt it but you know what, I don't know. It's not too harsh of a generalization because when do you see a newb winning a game with a br or sniper? Pretty much never. So they get the power weaps and then get an ego boost cause they think theyre good because they can use a newb wep.
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First off let me state that I'm someone who uses the BR alot. You can see it in my stats, I have almost 2x more kills than I do with the AR. The BR is SO easy of a weapon to use I pick it up whenever I can. Compare the BR to the AR and the AR is definatly the harder weapon to use because of it's short range of fire. Now regarding MLG. MLG is and always has been a bunch of jerks who grouped together to tell everyone else how bad they played. I never saw any skill difference between an MLG player or myself but I stayed away from that crowd because they are all asses. I'm not suprised that they tried to bring back the Halo 2 style of play so they can "perfect" their BR skills and call everyone who drops a bubble shield or uses a mauler a noob. No, I'm not suprised that they -blam!- up yet again. I hope they drop Halo 3 all together and stick with Tetris or something like that (you know what I mean). For all I care playing video games is in no way something you can be called "Pro" at anyway. [Edited on 10.18.2007 2:37 PM PDT]
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[quote]the battle rifle promotes teamwork and is a well rounded skillful weapon[/quote] So you're saying that the BR start gives the whole team inspiration to work well with each other ? Hmm. To use the word "professional" is hilarious. Why are they called pros ? Because they take 80% out of the game, start everyone with BRs, no equipment, and play for cash ? That to me tells me that professional sounds more like a load of crap. If they were really "PRO" they'd keep default sets. 'Nuff said.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Obake [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Likwit [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Obake Oh no, I have no problem with BR starts, but removing all the equipment and most of the weapons? And the 110% isn't definite, but try finding some MLG customs where it's not set that way. There's just too much customization this time around, and it's going to ruin the practicality. What was great about MLG and Halo 2 was that it was still accessible to most. By changing in-game physics it means you HAVE TO practice with that and play with that, meaning you either have to be hardcore MLG or hardcore against it. I really like MLG, but no way in hell am I gonna start practicing like that all the time.[/quote] Wait, they change the physics? Do they ramp up the speed and turn up the gravity or what?[/quote] Not yet, and here's hoping they don't. [/quote] I would think that would be what they do so it's harder to aim. I mean, they all jerk off to H1 and H1 Spartans ran way faster than H2 or H3 ones.
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Yeah, the settings are crap now. But the game hasn't even been out a month yet. Hopefully they put in equipment and most of the other weapons. They claimed the BR starts was for balance and giving everyone a chance from spawn. Now all the weapons are much better balanced, so more of them should be put in. MLG will be dumb if they keep the settings as they are now. Other than that, I like MLG and what they do. Nothing better than getting paid to play a game.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HaVOk1228 Power weapons don't spawn until they are out of ammo(the Halo2 system). [/quote] if you think that the halo 2 system means that they dont spawn until out of ammo, you need to go play Ascension, get rockets and the banshee. about a minute later you will be getting a rocket shot right at you.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Likwit [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Obake Oh no, I have no problem with BR starts, but removing all the equipment and most of the weapons? And the 110% isn't definite, but try finding some MLG customs where it's not set that way. There's just too much customization this time around, and it's going to ruin the practicality. What was great about MLG and Halo 2 was that it was still accessible to most. By changing in-game physics it means you HAVE TO practice with that and play with that, meaning you either have to be hardcore MLG or hardcore against it. I really like MLG, but no way in hell am I gonna start practicing like that all the time.[/quote] Wait, they change the physics? Do they ramp up the speed and turn up the gravity or what?[/quote] Not yet, and here's hoping they don't.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THEnat I HATE the BR. It's so cheep... all you need is three headshots from halfway across the map.[/quote] I hope you're kidding.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Eight Bit [quote]MLG haters suck. They rely on their rocket launchers. They can't win with anything else.[/quote] You think that because there are multiple rockets in every map ? If your comment is true, then how come everyone doesn't have the most kills with rocket launchers ? The game is insanely balanced, and all MLG people are doing is ruining everything that Halo 3 is.[/quote]They're not limited to rocket launchers... Every single map has at least like 3 noob weapons etc, and some of them have like, 6 or 7. Maulers are a joke. I mean wow. Theres too many of them and they're too powerful. Yeah I use them but only because if I don't I'll get owned, but that doesn't mean that I want them on the map.
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I fail to see how mlg is ruining halo 3, no one is forcing you to play these settings. So i could argue that mlg is actually making halo3 better for the people that dont enjoy the default settings.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Obake Oh no, I have no problem with BR starts, but removing all the equipment and most of the weapons? And the 110% isn't definite, but try finding some MLG customs where it's not set that way. There's just too much customization this time around, and it's going to ruin the practicality. What was great about MLG and Halo 2 was that it was still accessible to most. By changing in-game physics it means you HAVE TO practice with that and play with that, meaning you either have to be hardcore MLG or hardcore against it. I really like MLG, but no way in hell am I gonna start practicing like that all the time.[/quote] Wait, they change the physics? Do they ramp up the speed and turn up the gravity or what?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Minou MLG haters suck. They rely on their rocket launchers. They can't win with anything else. Like seriously. Get some -blam!- skill and learn how to use a BR, noobs.[/quote] thats a harsh generalization. im not fond of MLG, and i almost never pick up the RL, and im pretty sure I'm not a "noob"
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Oh no, I have no problem with BR starts, but removing all the equipment and most of the weapons? And the 110% isn't definite, but try finding some MLG customs where it's not set that way. There's just too much customization this time around, and it's going to ruin the practicality. What was great about MLG and Halo 2 was that it was still accessible to most. By changing in-game physics it means you HAVE TO practice with that and play with that, meaning you either have to be hardcore MLG or hardcore against it. I really like MLG, but no way in hell am I gonna start practicing like that all the time.
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they are not bumping the speed up, a few people have tried it and sugested it thats all.
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Havnt read Everyones post but looked at the most part and i do agree... MLG failed misserably with this ladder, not only are you forced to play many different game types like oddball, capture the flag, amongst others instead of just a plain old slayer set up, they also take out everything that makes it a game, the BR start is just retarded... they'res enough around the god damn map go pick one up if you have a -blam!- fetish to rub it against your groin... no vehicals... not to sure what to think... has its good side, but also takes the skill of people who can use them effectivly (not me im crap on um) the only ruling i agree on is the no radar to stop the n00bs who cant do anything but sit and wait with an energy sword for people to come to them instead. we had a match otherday and after 1st round i just walked out cause i was so disapointed in how they'd screwed up so badly. MLG... please get a clue Edit: And on not of the BR, yes it does require skill, and some people are great with it, but forcing everyone to use it just for the people who played halo2 is just stupid. why don't we all just use sniper rifles only with inf ammo? that way you only have 1 chance and you have to strategicly avoid the enemys. will this idea be used? no, why? cause like the battle rifles only ruling its stupid all weapons take skill, but finding routes to the set points for weapons and grabing them to take out your opponant is even more skill, like someone else said, halo3 is supposed to be more of a stratagy game than just a who can line up the headshot 1st game [Edited on 10.18.2007 2:35 PM PDT]
