Lots and lots of people say that Bungie should put Scarabs into Multiplayer. All of those people share one thing in common: They are all completely retarded. Here is the top 10 reasons why you will NEVER see a Scarab in Multiplayer. Feel free to link to this whenever people suggest it. [b]1. AI, not vehicle[/b] The Scarab is, contrary to popular belief, NOT a vehicle. It is an enemy, just like Brutes, Grunts or Hunters. It is a very large enemy, and it has a very specific and has very unusual AI code, but it is not a vehicle. Because it is not a vehicle, all you could possibly do in Multiplayer with a Scarab would be to give it a designated team and then let it do whatever it wants. That does not make for a fair game, or an enjoyable one, especially since its movements would be more or less random. [b]2. No UI[/b] The Scarab, as we just talked about, is not a vehicle. It has no UI (User Interface) that would allow you to actually use it. It isn't like you can just walk over to one part of the Scarab and and get a message saying "Hold LB to drive Scarab." It has no UI, and thus no way to control it. [b]3. Unevenness[/b] Lots of people have said "Oh, it would be cool if the Scarab were like a big moving base in CTF or Assault." Firstly, you already have that, it's called an Elephant. Secondly, the Scarab would make the game extremely uneven. If it were going against ground troops, the ground troops would have no chance against the Scarab, especially since there wouldn't really be a way to "board" it. If it were going against other vehicles however, the Scarab would be outmatched. It can't turn fast enough, and it just doesn't have powerful enough guns (at least in Halo 3). It would make the game very uneven. [b]4. Clutter from explosions[/b] Have you ever noticed when you kill a Scarab, you immidiately leave the battlefield on which you fought it? On the Storm, you go up into those buildings; on The Ark, you go up the spire; on The Covenant, you either go to the complete other side of the valley, or you go up to the platform with Guilty Spark. There is a reason for this: When Scarabs explode, they leave a lot of crap lying around on the map. Scarabs make entire parts of the map unnavigatable, probably for the entire remaining duration of the game. If Bungie put Scarabs in Multiplayer, they would quickly clutter the map, making it un-navigatable. [b]5. Lag[/b] Not only would it be laggy to try and network the movements of something that big, it would also be laggy as hell trying to keep it straight if more than one were ever used in a game. If you think it is laggy in Sandtrap BTB when two Elephants go to fight, you ain't seen nothing yet! [b]6. Map size[/b] What possible map, including Sandtrap, could even hold a Scarab? Even Sandtrap, due to the way the buildings are structured and layed out, probably couldn't hold a Scarab in a fair and realistic way. Bungie would have to make [i]another[/i] map as big as Sandtrap, probably bigger, and then not put any structures, buildings or geographic landmarks on the map just to be able to give the Scarab room to maneuver. The Scarab simply wouldn't fit in Multiplayer. [b]7. Usefulness #1[/b] How often to you get the idea to use the Elephant when you are playing Sandtrap? Sure, maybe sometimes you respawn on it if a teammate is near by, or in VIP, but honestly, how often do you think to yourself "I should go get in the Elephant turret." The Scarab would be, in essense, a bigger, stronger Elephant. Considering how rarely the Elephants get used, it would be a small miracle if anyone actually considered using the Scarab. [b]8. Usefulness #2[/b] Let's assume Bungie does turn the Scarab into a vehicle, and they program a UI for it. How difficult do you think it would be to actually use the Scarab? Think about it: You can either shoot your main gun, which takes time to charge, and you have to be looking in the direction you want to be shooting in for about 20 seconds prior to taking your shot, or you could step on stuff. However, you would either be stepping on vehicles or ground troops. Vehicles are probably to fast to actually step on without an enormous amount of luck, and ground troops are so small you would never hit them. The Scarab takes absolutely no skill, and more luck than practically anything else in the world. Does that sound like something you want to depend on to get your ranks up? [b]9. Getting aboard[/b] So off in the distance you see an unmanned Scarab. You decide to go use it. One problem: How do you get on board? In the Campaign, you have to practically destroy the thing before you are even on it. That or jump on it from a great height. You can't exactly just walk onto it because it is standing if it isn't broken. And you can't exactly jump onto it, because if you could get to something higher than the Scarab, you could probably just get on it in the first place. Even if Bungie did grant your stupid wish to put Scarabs in Multiplayer, you wouldn't even be able to get on it. [b]10. Currently uneven things get destroyed when they spawn[/b] Ever played a Custom Game where there is one Hornet somewhere on the map? Well, I have, and I can tell you from experience that rather than open up the possibility for someone to get in it, dominate, make the game unfun for everyone else, and get a cheap lead, they just destroy it as soon as it spawned. Someone yells "Hornet's back!" and everyone rushes over to all shoot it as once with Spartan Lasers or hit it with grenades. After it is blown up, we remember our differences and go back to killing each other. The same thing will happen with Scarabs. They'll cause so many problems, people will end up just destroying them as soon as they spawn, so they don't have to deal with it. And those are the 10 reasons why you will never see a Scarab in multiplayer. EDIT 1: Edited "Vehical" with "Vehicle" for those of you laughing at my spelling. EDIT 2: I am not a negative person. I am actually very in favor of new things being added to Halo. I do however think you need to think through all the possibilities and problems with doing so, and sometimes take a calculated risk. So for all of you who say "Oh he's just a negative nancy, F*** HIM!", no, I'm not negative. I'm trying to show you all the problems with your idea, because if it were implimented, you would be the kinds of people saying that it should be removed, and that "Bungee r FAIL!" EDIT 3: For those of you who say "Bungie can just program it, no problems, you're retarded!", you don't know the first thing about programming. Bungie would have to create a WHOLE NEW VEHICLE if they were to impliment this (mostly because of reasons 1, 2 and 9), and in order to do that, they would have to make entirely new game discs. New vehicles can't just be added though AUs or though Map Packs. At this point, it is too late to create whole new vehicles, and the Scarab would be a whole new vehicle. EDIT 4: Wow, you people are stupid. The Scarab in Halo 2 was not actually piloted by the red Elites standing in it. Bungie used what's called a Pathway. That's where you program the image to move in a certain direction until it reaches a spot, then turn and go a different direction. Those Elites were just standing there to make it look like the Scarab was being piloted. Those Elites weren't actually doing anything.\ EDIT 5: This post is directed at the idea of turning a Scarab into a vehicle you can use in any gametype. I have nothing to say to people who suggest making a "Everybody vs. Scarab" gametype or a "Scarab vs. Scarab" gametype, other than that the boat has already left the dock (it is too late to program that - See Edit 3). EDIT 6: It is entirely possible to have a Scarab be a base of some kind, or be a piece of map geometry. That would be perfectly do-able on a future map because it would just be a big piece of map geometry that looks like a Scarab. What I'm talking about is implimenting a moveable, drivable, pilotable Scarab; not just having a piece of map geometry that looks like a Scarab. EDIT 7 - The Last One: Alright guys, this is the last edit for this thread. I just want to say two things. First off, [b]I am not going to make one about putting the Pelican in multiplayer.[/b] I don't think it is a realistic idea, for many of the reasons listed about the Scarab, but I don't want to waste time making one. Secondly, I officially disown this thread. I will NOT be checking it anymore, I will NOT respond to PMs about it, and I will NOT take any bull crap about it in any form. This is my opinion, I support it, I have supported it many times, I think it is sound, if you disagree/agree, fine. Thanks for reading. [Edited on 06.03.2008 5:14 PM PDT]