[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KA0S777 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KA0S777 How does a lone wolf even come close to a team player. That's like having an assasin compared to a hit squad. Seriously - see who has more skill. And they aren't wolves because wolves hunt in packs... and the lone just gets 0wn3d - natural selection - we survive as a unit. You just can't compare them - and you can't convince me or anyone else logically. Strategic warfare - that's what teams are. It's not committing suicide because "Only the fools rush in" - Bungie So why are you telling me that people that draw the other team out are what count? Doesn't make sense in the real world teams so why apply it here. Unless your suicidal and in that case - seek help. [/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TwoFaced1680 I'm not sure where this rant comes from or what you are addressing so I'll ignore it as nonsense until you can make more sense of it.[/quote] I don't understand what you don't understand. But then again you must be a very happy person all the time. Oh ya, the system works alright - that's why you have 10 million people complaining and asking the same questions a million times over. Is that your measure for success? "Your right, I get it. It all makes sense your the perfect person. So right, so wrong. Let's all live in your imaginary life" - Chevelle[/quote]10 million huh. So the number people complaining actually exceeds the number of people playing the game. If you actually tried to make a real point and didn't exagerate I might be able to take you seriously. My goal isn't to be right. However, I think I am. I've tried to explain how the system can work using a single system for all playlists/gametypes. You either don't get it or trully think it just can't work. If you don't think it can work make your case. How hard is it to make a real point instead of writing the nonsense above. If you've read even a few of the last pages you would realize there are a few issues with the system. You would realize I'm aware of them. The vast majority of complaints have to do with these two issues (mixed parties and people winning so many games they actually level slowly). Bungie is looking into these issues and I'm sure they'll be fixed/improved. Those issues I don't believe have anything to do with the TrueSkill system itself. It has to do with how Bungie is using people skill levels to match players. However, your main point is that the system needs to take into account individual performance in order to work. Somehow the concept of a better player helping there team more often then a weaker player and thus winning more, completly eludes you. You don't seem to think this can work. I do. This principle was used in Halo 2. It worked for 3 years. So forgive me if I trully believe the principle works. I mean I only have 3 years experience as a user of that type of system and Bungie has 3 years of data using that type of system. Fans excepted it very well. There were very few complaints about it not using individual performance. Just like there are very few complaints now.