[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FecknMental [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TwoFaced1680 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FecknMental As good as this all sounds it is mighty bloody annoying when you win 7 games in a row and dont rank up at all yet people you are plying in a group with are ranking up every game and your winning the thing. I was playing with a group I was a level 39 he ws a 39 by the end of it he was a 42 and I was a 39 so how is this at all fair? Screw the system it should be as simple as you win you go up the same and if you lose you go down the same.[/quote]The system is fair in that regard. Why should you go up together if you don't play together all the time. The current situation arises because the two of you (or more) haven't played all your games together. Only people who play EVERY game together will rank the same. Think of it this way. Your friend is a 39 and has won 80% of his games and is on a 7 game winning streak. Remember this is just a hypothetical. You on the other hand have been a 39 for a month now and have played about 100 games while only winning 50. Why should you go up the same number of ranks as your friend for winning those 7 games. Basically the system says "okay maybe you've improved but based on your record it's possible this is just a small streak." Your friend in that scenerio has obviously proven his merit more then you have. The system is going to move him faster.[/quote] But at the end of the day I have played hundreds of level 45`s+ and wiped the floor with them so how is it fair that these guys rank up so quick when they clearly cant cope away up at that level. I usually go into games by myself and end up losing big time only if there is no team play or bad connections but when I look at the peoples stats we are going against I have seen people with 400 exp and they have played over 2000 ranked matches so thats a 1 in 5 win ratio so how do these muppets rank up quicker? Sorry but IMO it should be you win you rank up you lose you lose a rank to pot with your Sigma etc. And another winge if people want to bring there friends in a game who are just level 9`s etc then why should I be penalized cause they are -blam!-? I win 7 games dont rank up but lose and I lose a rank[/quote]How do you know how fast the 45's ranked up? I bet you don't know at all. You just assumed because they are above you they did it faster. That's obviously not necessarily true. Just because they did it earlier doesn't mean the did it faster. Experience can be lost by quitting. I've seen 45's with NO experience. You can't try to calculate there record by looking at the experience posted online. If you want to know someones real record you have to go to Bungie.net and figure out there experience penality so you can compensate for it. I challange you to show me a 45 with 1/5 of there games won. If you can really handle 45's then maybe you will be one someday, but I looked at your stats. On the 10th page you were a 41 and soon dropped to a 37. I'm not sure what happend there. Perhaps you share the account, perhaps you had internet difficulty, or perhaps you just couldn't win enough to maintain it. What I do know is that if you look at your games played from the 2nd to the 10th page you played 206 games and lost 103. I might be off by just a little but that's about right. So out of 206 games you won half and were around a 39 that entire time. To me that isn't an indicator of someone who should be any higher. However, the first page shows a little different story. You won 18 out of 25 games and have moved up to a 41. Maybe somethings changed or maybe it was just a good series of games for you. Either way you are now moving back up. In my opinion after going 103/103 you shouldn't move up after just 7 wins in a row. The problem I found with Halo 2's system (and is basically what you want) is that the ranks would move after every little streak. 7 wins in a row (which is bound to happen even if you aren't any better) would move you up a couple ranks. The next night you'd fall back down. It was a constant back and forth. I like the stability this system offers. I think it's the right way to do it.