[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReCLaIM So, your 'individual' rank, has absolutely NOTHING to do with your 'individual' performance?... Thats just 'dumb'.. for lack of a more correct term. [/quote] I am guessing you are talking about Team Slayer so no, the teams performance (win or loss) is being used to calc your skill. In a FFA playlist, your individual performance is used. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReCLaIM And btw.. if you are an 11.. in TS, and you play with 3 30's... and against 3 30's.. and you come out in first place of the winning team.. you do NOT rank up. [/quote] As stated in the OP and other threads, your performance within a team (getting the most kills on your team) does not matter. Only your teams performance via a win or loss. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReCLaIM This ranking system may seem to 'work' for some.. but there are many others that are seeing something off.. and I'm not normally one to complain.. Melee system seems fine to me.. but this seems kinda off. 3 games.. me an 11.. my buddy a 16.. I come out on top of the winning team.. above my buddy.. I'm an 11, he's a 17.. next game, same thing.. I'm 11, he's an 18... next game, SAME thing.. I'm 11.. he's a 19. same thing again, I hit 12... yeah.. system seems off.[/quote] Again, as was stated in the OP. If the system is more confident in your level, you will level up AND down slower than a person who the system is not as confident about. In H2, win 4 or 5 games and go up. Lose 5 or 6 and go down. It was a linear system and predictable. If you had a night where your team was being matched up with a bunch of teams that were lower levels than you, you would still go up at pretty much the same rate. In H3 it's not as linear. You may have to win 10 to go up a level or you may go up a level after every win. The idea behind the H3 system is once you play enough, the system has set your level and is confident about it. In a way both systems are similar because you have to win to go up until you hit the point where the system thinks you should be. Once you are at that point, you have to win against higher level players to go up. If you get matched up with a bunch of lower level teams, you probably will not go up.