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7/16/2007 8:08:11 PM
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Split-screen Co-op video mode (Halo 2 and Halo 3)
I don't know if this has been brought up before and addressed, but I'd like to put it out there as it is a major concern of mine.
I have a wide screen TV, purchased specificly for use with my Xbox 360 almost 2 years ago. At the time I hadn't yet played through Halo 2.
To bring my girlfriend up to speed, I played through Halo:CE with her in split-screen Co-op mode. under 480p Widescreen, Halo:CE gave us an Over-Under split which we enjoyed very much.
Then we started playing Halo 2 on Co-op and were shocked to find it displaying a Side-by-side split. There was no option in the game menus I could find that would change it to over-under and no mention of this in the game manual. We found this very disorienting and obnoxious to the point that we couldn't complete the first level/chapter. I tried asking around on various forums but no one had an answer for me, everyone said that it should display an over-under split or there should be a menu option or something.
Perplexed and annoyed, I gave up and let it sit until the ARG for Halo 3 began. I wanted to play through Halo 2 so I wouldn't be spoilered to death but I didn't want to play without my girlfriend. I decided that, "hey, most people probably don't have a screen like mine yet, what if..." so I went into the Xbox 360 setup and changed the Widescreen setting to Normal. Lo and behold, Halo 2 gives us an Over-Under split just like we wanted.
While this workaround allowed us to finally play through Halo 2 together, I felt it was also an obnoxious and unneccessary extra step for us to have an enjoyable play experience.
I would like to submit that I hate side-by-side split-screen co-op and would prefer the option to have over-under split-screen configurable in game reguardless of the console setup. Hopefully the developers see this before it is too late if it isn't already.
[Edited on 07.16.2007 12:08 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lodar011 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xastabus Oh great, that's even worse. I didn't pay about $1000 for my Widescreen TV to play games shrunk down to normal aspect. I really hope they change it to use the "full" widescreen area.[/quote] I'm not 100% sure, but I think when the beta came out they said the bars were only going to be there for the beta and would be changed to the proper ratio for the final relase. I could be wrong, but I think I remember Bungie saying that.[/quote]i hope theres an option for both...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] halomaster444 IN HALO 3 BETA THE SPLITSCREEN HAD SIE BARS TO MAKE IT A 4:3 RATIO ON WIDE SCREEN SPLITSCREEN IT IS LIKE HAVING A NORMAL SCREEN SQUARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]no...both are at 16:9
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xastabus Oh great, that's even worse. I didn't pay about $1000 for my Widescreen TV to play games shrunk down to normal aspect. I really hope they change it to use the "full" widescreen area.[/quote] I'm not 100% sure, but I think when the beta came out they said the bars were only going to be there for the beta and would be changed to the proper ratio for the final relase. I could be wrong, but I think I remember Bungie saying that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn I was going to answer your problem...but you answered it yourself...but yes, it is annoying, but if your screen is big enough for the two screens to be square, I wouldn't mind it so much.[/quote]Actually even on a 16:9 screen it isnt quite square...its like a rotated standard...and its REALLY annoying...i hated split screen on halo 2
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At 720 and above the screen aspect is locked. You cannot change it unless you go back down to 480p. It has something to do with the video standards but I don't know all that much about it. [Edited on 07.16.2007 12:42 PM PDT]
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I have a 52'' hdtv on 1080i and it is stuck on widescreen, i can't change it, anyone know what's wrong?
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Oh great, that's even worse. I didn't pay about $1000 for my Widescreen TV to play games shrunk down to normal aspect. I really hope they change it to use the "full" widescreen area. [Edited on 07.16.2007 12:30 PM PDT]
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IN HALO 3 BETA THE SPLITSCREEN HAD SIE BARS TO MAKE IT A 4:3 RATIO ON WIDE SCREEN SPLITSCREEN IT IS LIKE HAVING A NORMAL SCREEN SQUARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks. I appreciate the offer. Mostly this thread is a heads up to the devs. The side-by-side split makes me feel like I have tunnel vision. My screen is a standard 16:9 format screen and doesn't split nicely into two 4:3 aspect screens. Surprisingly, even though I put the Xbox 360 in Normal (4:3) aspect Halo 2 didn't appear all that stretched out in Co-op. I can't figure out why they decided to setup Halo 2 that way, and then not document it anywhere, but it sure was irritating. Edit: I suppose it isn't a big deal if you know how to work around it, but if you switch games, you have to remember to change the widescreen setting back. I don't know if this issue affects widescreens at higher resolution like 720 or higher. When you use the higher resolutions (on Componant inputs) the 360 locks the display aspect to match your screen. I haven't tested this at 720 yet, and have no idea how to work around it if 720 Wide is forced to use side-by-side split. [Edited on 07.16.2007 12:26 PM PDT]
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I know a kid who had that problem. But you figured it out, soo . . . Now I can tell that kid. I don't think it's that big of a deal if you know how to fix it.
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I was going to answer your problem...but you answered it yourself...but yes, it is annoying, but if your screen is big enough for the two screens to be square, I wouldn't mind it so much.
