[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Snyder Pyder [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Snyder Pyder The same argument used to also apply to -blam!-s in the military. People got upset when they got kicked out for being -blam!-, but you can't really say you were treated unfairly when you knew the rule was on the books before you joined. What argument could you present to a court of law? "I wasn't allowed to continue to dupe the system!"[/quote] Um... the argument is that the system was wrong. Take a look at [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/06/rickey-carr-counterfeiting-scam_n_1944863.html?ir=Crime]this article right here.[/url] It's about a bunch of people who got scammed out of their money by a man pretending to be looking for fake bills. And it's a perfect example of why you shouldn't just blindly follow authority without a good reason. You can say that -blam!-s in the military were being treated unfairly because they were kicked out for expressing their identity, and no other reason. Just because you know the rule doesn't mean the rule is fair, or makes any sense at all. [/quote]"The system is wrong, and I shouldn't have to comply with all the rules of this organization to be awarded it's highest honor." Maybe it's just me, but that argument doesn't seem any better. And are you really trying to draw a parallel between an amature con artist who would've been foiled if anyone had asked to see his badge and a set of established rules that, whether you find them appropriate or not, are the standard for achieving an award in a private organization? Hey, if I join the boy scouts, can I get the trophy or whatever it is that says I'm an Eagle Scout as soon as I show up? 'Cause your argument seems to be that if I don't agree with some rules I don't have to follow them, but should still be treated like I am.[/quote] My argument is that some rules are completely baseless, and they are in place for no good reason. Having to complete a program to receive an award has a perfectly reasonable basis. Being denied an award because of your -blam!-ity is completely baseless.