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6/25/2007 6:03:21 AM
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Im dumb....how did the Flood survive the first firing?
Errr....apparently i'm not keeping up with the lore. Anyone care to enlighten this newb as to how the Flood survived the Halo's first firings.
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Dude. Of course the Flood aren't immune to the Halo firings. If they all just went to sleep and lived the whole time then we would find hibernating Flood all over the place instead of just one study center on Halo 4. They were kept alive for study, although I'm wondering why they would keep some alive if they didn't plan on living to study them. Either they just overlooked the contained Flood or some Forerunners survived the Halo firings. Cortana told him that Halo killed their food because MC thought it only killed Flood. It kills everything. [Edited on 06.26.2007 10:47 AM PDT]
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"Halo doesn't kill Flood. It kills their FOOD. Humans, Covenant, whatever. We're all equally edible." -Cortana, Two Betrayals --Halo 1, opening scene of level. The Halos kill sentient lifeforms, or any lifeforms of sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood. Guilty Spark tells you as much on "The Library". Actually even after, on Two Betrayals. "Anything with sufficient biomass or cognitive capability to sustain them". So somehow, when the Halos activate, they target only large creatures, and creatures with sentience. The Flood are immune to the firings of the Halo. However, without food to sustain them, they went into deep hibernation. A few more millenia, and they'd have been wiped out altogether.
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Ok, that makes a lot more sense. Considering there are essentially two main elements life could be made out of, carbon or silicon (hypothetically) the idea of involving calcium makes a hell of a lot more sense, as more than likely a silicon-based life form would include calcium in a significant mass. Just wondering, where did the calcium idea come from? Book?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chrism312 Ok am I missing something here? Calcium? I thought the person that said it before was just mistaking it for Carbon, but now I'm not so sure. Because surely anyone who's taken a high-school biology course knows humans are carbon-based, not calcium-based. So is it really calcium based, or am I just surrounded by idiots?[/quote] The Covenant or Forerunners may not have been carbon based. Calcium based includes most any creature with a skeletal structure, or blood, or neurons, thus including a much wider variety of species to be wiped out by the halos.
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"you fool, it doesn't kill the Flood, it kills their food, Humans, Covenant, whatever." I think thats a rough quote of what Cortana says in Halo: CE
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The flood went into a deep hibernation state and were awakened again when the covenant released them.
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Ok am I missing something here? Calcium? I thought the person that said it before was just mistaking it for Carbon, but now I'm not so sure. Because surely anyone who's taken a high-school biology course knows humans are carbon-based, not calcium-based. So is it really calcium based, or am I just surrounded by idiots?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xLSDx Relik Errr....apparently i'm not keeping up with the lore. Anyone care to enlighten this newb as to how the Flood survived the Halo's first firings.[/quote] the halos were designed to kill off calcium based entities, therefore, by firing the halos, the flood would starve to death because of their inability to find new hosts
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Trust me on that, look at Gears of War and tell me it sold well because of the killer storyline.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chrism312 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iron Benny x I'm surprised about how little many people on these forums no about halo[/quote]Well, most people play games for their gameplay, not for the storyline. And I only appear to know what I'm talking about because I just finished a run through of the first Halo game. And this time I paid attention to the dialogus of the cutscenes. ;)[/quote] what games have u been playing.......
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because they were kept as test specimens thats why and in halo ce they were freed again
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iron Benny x I'm surprised about how little many people on these forums no about halo[/quote]Well, most people play games for their gameplay, not for the storyline. And I only appear to know what I'm talking about because I just finished a run through of the first Halo game. And this time I paid attention to the dialogus of the cutscenes. ;)
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Wizards did it !
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Deputy Moonman What I don't understand is how there are still Halos left. I thought the forerunners blew everything up. So if they and everything else died, who made the rings that are still around?[/quote] The forerunners DID NOT "blow up everything" it killed all sentient life with a sufficent biomass to sustain the flood. There are other ways to destroy allmost every living thing in the galaxy other than blowing them up. My theory is it sends a pulse that mutates the life froms body ultimatley destroying it. I'm surprised by how little many people on these forums know about halo. I played Halo for the gameplay originally and I still picked up the storyline perfectly and I was 9 [Edited on 06.24.2007 11:25 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Deputy Moonman What I don't understand is how there are still Halos left. I thought the forerunners blew everything up. So if they and everything else died, who made the rings that are still around?[/quote]To quote 343 Guilty Spark from the original Halo game, the Halos destroy all sentient life within the blast radius. A Ringworld isn't alive, it's simply a Space Station, so the blast wouldn't destroy it. That's the same reason the Sentinels exist, because they're machines and not biological life.
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im certain i read or heard this somewhere but the rings were designed to kill the floods food source e.g humans, covenant, forerunners, etc. The rings were never meant to kill the flood straight up, im positive about that, but im not sure where I've heard it from. [Edited on 06.24.2007 10:49 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dr3wski ther rings weren't designed to kill the flood. it was designed to kill all calcium-based sentient life, its food source. I presume that it ate itself all this time while scattered on the various Halo's.[/quote] Um... calcium based? ... Can I be the first to say 'lawl pwned?' Honestly one of the best things to look at when determining where the flood were is to look in one of the least expected places, the multiplayer map Lockout of Halo 2. Remember the Green Room? All those glass cases with mysterious figures concealed beyond them? Well those look like flood to me, sealed inside in stasis for later study. Plus, in Lockout's map description it says something about being a place to study. So it could make sense that Lockout, and other similar stations, contained the flood frozen or in some other form of stasis, and were then released either by accident or by curiosity.
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What I don't understand is how there are still Halos left. I thought the forerunners blew everything up. So if they and everything else died, who made the rings that are still around?
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as somebody said, they probably had some sort of thing the flood could live off in their prisons-like containment facilities, as I doubt the forerunner's would use their own species/other life to sustain them during studies. This being said, when the halo's activated, they sustained off whatever was left in the containment facilities until the covenant unleashed them in the 6th level (ugh, forgot the name, after AotCM). Thats my theory, but I don't know if there is even an official story on how the flood survived.
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The Library: A collection of cloned DNA sequences for later reanimation. DNA "sequences" are not sentient life forms. They don't get zapped.
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They were able to survive in the containment zones which i persume had some sort of preservation for them in there only since they would have starved otherwise
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[quote]The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce. [/quote] possibly the most controversial statement that GS ever said, if only he knew what he was doing lol
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xLSDx Relik Errr....apparently i'm not keeping up with the lore. Anyone care to enlighten this newb as to how the Flood survived the Halo's first firings.[/quote] They are awesome? The Forerunner tried everything they could stop the Flood, and they failed every time. Their last resort? Galactic suicide! Why? I'm not sure. Possibly to stop the Flood from spreading and destroying their ultimate goals in life. May the best thing win.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dr3wski ther rings weren't designed to kill the flood. it was designed to kill all calcium-based sentient life, its food source. I presume that it ate itself all this time while scattered on the various Halo's.[/quote] parasites cant parasite off other parasites
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I pulled a few quotes by 343 Guilty Spark from the level [i]The Library[/i] from [i]Halo: Combat Evolved[/i]. [quote]You can see how the body's been transformed by the genetic restructuring of the Flood infection. The small creatures carry spores that cause a host to mutate. The mutated host then produces spores that can pass the Flood to others. It is insidious and elegant. As long as any hosts remain, the Flood is virulent.[/quote][quote]I would conjecture that the other species currently on the installation is responsible for releasing the Flood. They seem most persistant in their attempts to access restricted areas.[/quote][quote]Why naturally the Flood is simply too dangerous to release, and mass sterilization protocols may again need to be enacted. Of course, samples were kept here after the last catastrophic outbreak...for study. It seems... that decision may have been an error.[/quote][quote]The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce. [/quote]Also, I took a quote from the beginning of the level [i]Two Betrayals[/i]. [quote][b]Cortana:[/b] You have no idea how this ring works, do you? Why the forerunners built it? Halo doesn't kill flood, it kills their food. Humans, covenant, whatever. We're all equally edible. The only way to stop the flood is to starve them to death. And that's exactly what Halo is designed to do; wipe the galaxy clean of all sentient life. You don't believe me? Ask him. [b]Master Chief:[/b] Is this true? [b]343 Guilty Spark:[/b] More or less. Technically, this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty-five thousand light years. But, once the others follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the flood. (pause) But you already knew that. I mean, how couldn't you?[/quote] [Edited on 06.24.2007 10:19 PM PDT]
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who knows. but my theory is that thw forerunners DID seek refuge within Onyx but some Flood somehow made it into the Dyson sphere and assimilated many of the forerunner except a few that left Onyx after the halo firings and went to earth, evolving into modern day humans. but thats just my theory.
