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PC Building Guide and FAQ of The Flood v2.0 [ Corsair 300R $50 ]

[quote][/quote] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=72304145]Original Thread[/url] [b]Current Sales:[/b] [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139011]Corsair 300R[/url], $50 [url=http://www.frys.com/product/7253043]Corsair HX650[/url] $72 [quote][/quote][quote][/quote] [b]Table of Contents:[/b] 1) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341]Building a PC[/url] 2) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528353]Getting started with Windows; Software, Programs, Optimizations[/url] 3) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528358]Audio General; Speakers, Headphones, Souncards[/url] 4) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528366]Audio General; Continued[/url] 5) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528374]Useful Links and Builds of Other Members[/url] [quote][/quote][quote][/quote] [b]Building a PC:[/b] Taken from Cystic. If he would like, I'll type my own section. [quote]After you've gathered all your parts, I'm assuming you're going to wonder what to do with all these wires. It's a pretty simple process, Of course, and we start with the case and the psu, or if you want, the motherboard, as long as either of them are put in first, it doesn't matter. [b][u]1. Fitting the PSU[/u][/b] [i]If you want to fit the motherboard first, go to step 2 then back to step 1.[/i] Open your case up, and look for a corner that looks like it will fit a PSU in it. It should be pretty obvious, if it already isn't, there should be four or 6 mounting screw holes for the PSU, and possibly parts built into the case to keep it into place. Just slot your PSU into there and screw in the appropriate screws. [b][u]2. Motherboard [/u][/b] Your case should already have a couple of mounting screws on the side, and it's pretty straightforward to see where the motherboard belongs and how it fits in the system. The IO shield (there should be a rectangular shaped hole in the back of your PC) should pop right into the back of your case. An IO shield should look something like [url=http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/144/images/6ioshield.JPG]this[/url]. After popping in the IO shield, check your motherboard box for [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Toennchen_IMGP5029_wp.jpg]standoffs[/url] (they come in plastic too) and screw them into the case's motherboard mounting holes, then just place the motherboard over the standoffs with the inputs that align to the IO shield (as long as your IO shield isn't upside down), and then screw the motherboard into the standoffs with the provided screws. If a screw won't go in or slightly flexes the motherboard, it might be recommended to leave this screw out, just as long as your motherboard is secure and you're not having problems with fitting upgrades in the PCI slots (we'll come to those later) the motherboard won't mind having a few screws missing if it doesn't look like it's going to be moving or rattling inside the case. [b][u]3. The Processor[/u][/b] In your motherboard, there should be a socket that looks either like [url=http://www.hardcore-hardware.com/images/news/lga-2011-computex/ASUS%20DB%206%20-%20Socket%202.JPG]this[/url] (Newer Intel) or [url=http://techreport.com/r.x/socket-am3/socket-am3.jpg]this[/url] (Newer AMD), or something similar. It is very important that your socket number matches the motherboard's specifications, e.g LGA 1155 will only work with an LGA 1155 motherboard, even if an LGA 1136 looks like it's going to fit. For AMD, you'll find that they're more versatile in sockets, however, anyone can tell you that you should only vouch for AMD given that you are under a tight budget or are building a computer for relatively basic tasks. Anyway, you should see a latch on the side of the socket. Lift up the latch, (and if there's a pin protection plate, most likely on Intel motherboards remove it but do not damage it, you may need it later for RMAs.) and place the processor carefully onto the socket (try avoiding contact with the pins, there should be a small indicator such as a small triangle on the CPU and the motherboard showing which way the processor should be placed) then carefully slot the cpu into place, making sure it's in, and then you want to close the lid (for intel processors) and then press the latch down firmly and secure it. [b][u]4. The PCI expansions[/u][/b] On your motherboard, there should be a couple of PCI expansion slots, [url=http://www.naplestech.com/shopcart/images/pc_slots.gif]in their respective sizes.[/url] Now depending on the type of graphics card you buy, it should tell you which slot it goes in. Now, you start off by seeing which back plates the PCI slot is aligned to on the case, and you can begin by unscrewing the plate. You will want to do this with the case lying flat. In some cases for larger, or more powerful cards, they will use 2 of these back plates and you will need to unscrew more than one. Some PCI slots come with security latches that secure the card in place, and it should make a clicking sound when you plug the card into the slot. After the card is in place, you can use the screws you've taken out of the back panel to secure the card into the case, so that it stays there. This applies to other PCI slot accessories, e.g more USB slots, PCI wireless cards, capture cards, etc. [b][u]5. The Optical Drive/Blu-Ray Drive/SD Card reader etc.[/u][/b] Now these are very easy to install, inside the front half of your case, there should be a few slots for whichever peripherals you choose to install. Remove the front panel dust shield/filters (if you have any) for the slot you want your drive to take. Where the dust shield is removed, just slot in the drive and it should not stick out of the front panel, nor should it be pushed inward too much. After the necessary adjustments, you will see holes for screws in the side of the drive bays - you want to secure the drive in place firmly, but not too tightly, just until the screw's turning becomes slightly difficult to turn. [b][u]6. Hard Drive[/u][/b] You should see underneath where your disc drive is supposed to be {unless it's some sort of obscure case), there should be a mounting area for HDDs similar to the disc drive bays, now for some cases, you may get easy-install options, such as NZXT's clip-on and slide in. You can also purchase 2.5-3.5 inch conversion cases for your 2.5" HDD if you want to move over data from a laptop or an mATX desktop. Installation should be straight forward and very similar to the disc drives, you should have no problem installing it. Again, you only have to make sure it's secure, not tighten it to oblivion. [b][u]7. Wiring and Cable Management[/u][/b] ([i]Skip the first paragraph if you don't want to use cable management, it saves the hassle afterwards[/i]) If you have a modular PSU, only plug in the power cables you need, and for non-modular PSUs, just keep the spare wires away from the main airflow pats of the machine, you can use zip-ties and bunch them up behind the PC's back panel (if it has one) or just keep them away from the fans. First, place all of the components inside the case, including the PSU, but keep the cables outside the case. First, take the 24-pin motherboard power cable and put it through the opening closest to the PSU. Run this behind the motherboard and out the hole closest to the 24-pin motherboard connector. Do the same with the 8-pin CPU connector. This is the only cable which might not be long enough, in which case you will need one of [url=http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-8-Inch-8-Pin-Extension-EPS8EXT/dp/B000M802RG]these[/url]. Once those cables are in, you'll want to attach the SATA cables to the optical drive, HDD, and any SSD's you might have. You can either run these through the same hole as the 24-pin, or a closer hole. I generally like to use the same [url=http://www.proits-it.com/Support/skills/Photos/eSATA_TypA.jpg]SATA A[/url] cable for my HDD and optical. If needed, you can lower the position of the optical drive so that the cable will reach, or even raise your hard drives. Make sure that when you are routing these cables that they do NOT overlap on the other cables that you already have, otherwise you will not be able to easily put your side panel back on. Connect the front panel cords that are attached to your case to the bottom of the motherboard. I generally like to keep them low to the case so that they can go under the other cords and out the hole where the PSU is. You can also route them through the hole under where you inserted the 24-pin, provided you have a case with enough rubber grommets. Although I do not advise it, some builders cut off the AC97 cable that is attached to the HD Audio cable (HD > AC97) so that they have a more clean look. After this, all that's left are the GPU cables and molex cables for fans. These are pretty self-explanatory. Just remember to not overlap cords. If you don't have twist ties, you can go to your local grocery store and grab some of those green twist ties in the produce section. You also might have some that came with your PC components. I'll post my build with labels once my H100 comes back from Corsair.[/quote] [url=http://imgur.com/a/oqpHx]Infographics[/url] (NSFW on the mousepad image). [Edited on 01.06.2013 1:24 PM PST]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP Sorry. I meant over the 660ti or the 670 FTW.[/quote]Oh, then yes. The 660ti has a pretty small memory bus for the power it offers, so I'd recommend the 670 over it if you have the money for it. If you were spending $300 on a video card you would want the 7950 anyway.[/quote] And why is that? I thought NVIDIA cards were much better for video rendering because of the CUDA cores. Actually now that I think about it would [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837]this[/url] be the best motherboard for my build? Since I have the $200 saved up from the CPU and possibly $70 if I go for the 670FTW instead of the 680 could I possibly get another motherboard? [Edited on 01.04.2013 5:19 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XxJakeMasterxX They make mechs that cheap?[/quote]They were on sale from $75 to $60, and I used a combo deal to get them down to $20 each. Sadly, I was left with two $5 Prescott CPU's, but [url=http://i.imgur.com/8jkQY.jpg]I found a use for them.[/url][/quote] [url=http://i.imgur.com/4ipHQ.jpg] I feex[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jpgarcia6 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jpgarcia6 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cheezytacos1 Would I be bottlenecking my system if I got a GTX 680 to go along with my AMD FX 4100 Quad Core @ 3.60 GhZ? I also have 8 GB RAM, and a GTX 560 TI GPU ATM. With a 850W PSU[/quote]The bulldozer CPUs don't perform well with games, but it still wouldn't be the worst. If you wanted to upgrade you would want a 8320 or 6300. And don't get a 680, you would get a much better price:performance ratio out of a 7970 or a 670 FTW. But the 7970 outperforms even the 680 and it's $400.[/quote] For somebody planing a video-editing workstation (I plan on doing highly advanced 3D visual effects in college since that's what I'm studying) is the extra price worth it? Keep in mind I got an i7-3770k for only about $130 so I have an extra $200 I can use or just save.[/quote]The extra price for what, the 680 over the 670 or 7970? No. If you're doing CUDA work the 670 will be perfect.[/quote] Sorry. I meant over the 660ti or the 670 FTW.[/quote]Oh, then yes. The 660ti has a pretty small memory bus for the power it offers, so I'd recommend the 670 over it if you have the money for it. If you were spending $300 on a video card you would want the 7950 anyway.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jpgarcia6 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cheezytacos1 Would I be bottlenecking my system if I got a GTX 680 to go along with my AMD FX 4100 Quad Core @ 3.60 GhZ? I also have 8 GB RAM, and a GTX 560 TI GPU ATM. With a 850W PSU[/quote]The bulldozer CPUs don't perform well with games, but it still wouldn't be the worst. If you wanted to upgrade you would want a 8320 or 6300. And don't get a 680, you would get a much better price:performance ratio out of a 7970 or a 670 FTW. But the 7970 outperforms even the 680 and it's $400.[/quote] For somebody planing a video-editing workstation (I plan on doing highly advanced 3D visual effects in college since that's what I'm studying) is the extra price worth it? Keep in mind I got an i7-3770k for only about $130 so I have an extra $200 I can use or just save.[/quote]The extra price for what, the 680 over the 670 or 7970? No. If you're doing CUDA work the 670 will be perfect.[/quote] Sorry. I meant over the 660ti or the 670 FTW.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IHaveTURRETS JR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/b/ztN]My completed build![/url] Thoughts?[/quote] I'm dumb but wouldn't that psu be too big for the case?[/quote]No. All PSUs are basically the same size, I've seen pretty long ones, like the EVGA NOVA something rather that's 1500W. Otherwise any standard PSU can fit in any case.[/quote] Well actually, I had a hard time fitting it. The modular cables were a real pain.[/quote]The modular cables were a [i]pain?[/i] The whole reason to get a modular PSU is so you don't have to deal with the clutter of a non-modular one.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jpgarcia6 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cheezytacos1 Would I be bottlenecking my system if I got a GTX 680 to go along with my AMD FX 4100 Quad Core @ 3.60 GhZ? I also have 8 GB RAM, and a GTX 560 TI GPU ATM. With a 850W PSU[/quote]The bulldozer CPUs don't perform well with games, but it still wouldn't be the worst. If you wanted to upgrade you would want a 8320 or 6300. And don't get a 680, you would get a much better price:performance ratio out of a 7970 or a 670 FTW. But the 7970 outperforms even the 680 and it's $400.[/quote] For somebody planing a video-editing workstation (I plan on doing highly advanced 3D visual effects in college since that's what I'm studying) is the extra price worth it? Keep in mind I got an i7-3770k for only about $130 so I have an extra $200 I can use or just save.[/quote]The extra price for what, the 680 over the 670 or 7970? No. If you're doing CUDA work the 670 will be perfect.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XxJakeMasterxX They make mechs that cheap?[/quote]They were on sale from $75 to $60, and I used a combo deal to get them down to $20 each. Sadly, I was left with two $5 Prescott CPU's, but [url=http://i.imgur.com/8jkQY.jpg]I found a use for them.[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy And yes, I did clean my dust filters after I took that pic.[/quote] Better have. That is disgusting. And i have to find my Dust Filter i was cleaning it and forgot to put it back when when i put my computer together >.>

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  • Jake, just give up. You're only posting here because Salty is. You're an idiot. You're using a tiny monitor, and a crappy computer your grandma had to give you because you cried when your laptop broke. Leave now.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cheezytacos1 Would I be bottlenecking my system if I got a GTX 680 to go along with my AMD FX 4100 Quad Core @ 3.60 GhZ? I also have 8 GB RAM, and a GTX 560 TI GPU ATM. With a 850W PSU[/quote]The bulldozer CPUs don't perform well with games, but it still wouldn't be the worst. If you wanted to upgrade you would want a 8320 or 6300. And don't get a 680, you would get a much better price:performance ratio out of a 7970 or a 670 FTW. But the 7970 outperforms even the 680 and it's $400.[/quote] For somebody planing a video-editing workstation (I plan on doing highly advanced 3D visual effects in college since that's what I'm studying) is the extra price worth it? Keep in mind I got an i7-3770k for only about $130 so I have an extra $200 I can use or just save.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IHaveTURRETS JR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/b/ztN]My completed build![/url] Thoughts?[/quote] I'm dumb but wouldn't that psu be too big for the case?[/quote]No. All PSUs are basically the same size, I've seen pretty long ones, like the EVGA NOVA something rather that's 1500W. Otherwise any standard PSU can fit in any case.[/quote] Well actually, I had a hard time fitting it. The modular cables were a real pain.

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  • They make mechs that cheap?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XxJakeMasterxX Why would you need 4? You could have bought a graphics card at the price of 3 good ones or several dozen games.[/quote]I don't think you can buy a decent GPU for $50.

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  • Why would you need 4? You could have bought a graphics card at the price of 3 good ones or several dozen games.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RYAN_LENNON [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEvfdEIFgn8]Razer announces a mechanical version of their Nostromo for the same price as a full mechanical keyboard, $130.[/url] [url=http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-controllers/razer-sabertooth]As well as an updated Razer Onza priced at $80, or $70 is you own an Onza.[/url][/quote] Hmm... here's to hoping the Nostromo goes down in price after this.[/quote] If it does, I will probably pick on up.[/quote]I've tried out the Nostromo, and despite having membrane keys, they are very pleasing to depress. You might have some minor ergo issues but it's definitely worth the price, even now. [url=http://i.imgur.com/dp0Ox.jpg]Dear God, I own four mechanical keyboards now[/url] (Not pictured, 6Gv2 with MX Blacks). And yes, I did clean my dust filters after I took that pic. [Edited on 01.04.2013 4:10 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IHaveTURRETS JR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/b/ztN]My completed build![/url] Thoughts?[/quote] I'm dumb but wouldn't that psu be too big for the case?[/quote]No. All PSUs are basically the same size, I've seen pretty long ones, like the EVGA NOVA something rather that's 1500W. Otherwise any standard PSU can fit in any case.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/b/ztN]My completed build![/url] Thoughts?[/quote] I'm dumb but wouldn't that psu be too big for the case?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XxJakeMasterxX Some games have issues with ATI cards, like RAGE. And, in reality, most games are better optimized for NVIDIA cards.[/quote]Not really, at all... Plenty of games will possibly have trouble with NVIDIA cards too. I have no idea where you're getting this from. [Edited on 01.04.2013 3:52 PM PST]

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  • Some games have issues with ATI cards, like RAGE. And, in reality, most games are better optimized for NVIDIA cards. [Edited on 01.04.2013 3:50 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cheezytacos1 Would I be bottlenecking my system if I got a GTX 680 to go along with my AMD FX 4100 Quad Core @ 3.60 GhZ? I also have 8 GB RAM, and a GTX 560 TI GPU ATM. With a 850W PSU[/quote]The bulldozer CPUs don't perform well with games, but it still wouldn't be the worst. If you wanted to upgrade you would want a 8320 or 6300. And don't get a 680, you would get a much better price:performance ratio out of a 7970 or a 670 FTW. But the 7970 outperforms even the 680 and it's $400.

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  • Would I be bottlenecking my system if I got a GTX 680 to go along with my AMD FX 4100 Quad Core @ 3.60 GhZ? I also have 8 GB RAM, and a GTX 560 TI GPU ATM. With a 850W PSU

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEvfdEIFgn8]Razer announces a mechanical version of their Nostromo for the same price as a full mechanical keyboard, $130.[/url] [url=http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-controllers/razer-sabertooth]As well as an updated Razer Onza priced at $80, or $70 is you own an Onza.[/url][/quote] Hmm... here's to hoping the Nostromo goes down in price after this.[/quote] If it does, I will probably pick on up.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/b/ztN]My completed build![/url] Thoughts?[/quote] Nice! Love mini ITX builds! @Razerstuff lolrazer

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEvfdEIFgn8]Razer announces a mechanical version of their Nostromo for the same price as a full mechanical keyboard, $130.[/url] [url=http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-controllers/razer-sabertooth]As well as an updated Razer Onza priced at $80, or $70 is you own an Onza.[/url][/quote] Hmm... here's to hoping the Nostromo goes down in price after this.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TopWargamer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ABotelho [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/b/ztN]My completed build![/url] Thoughts?[/quote] Good, that's pretty much run everything at 30-60FPS. [/quote] It's primary purpose is CAD and Revit, so gaming is secondary. A nice plus though. I'm definitely gonna game on it.[/quote] You can max out any game. [/quote] I realize that, but it's still a secondary purpose. lol

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  • Razer products are overpriced and crappy anyway. They have like two good mice.

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