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12/6/2012 4:28:10 AM
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I think the 'perma-ban' should be done away with!
I think it's a bit of an overkill, a few months should do them in.
I think it should be done away with for the following reasons.
1. people can change
2. Forever is too long
3. Stops Alts from being created
What's your opinion on the matter?
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If someone is causing trouble, and they refuse to ease down, then they need to be removed from the system. Why should we continue to put up with them when they have been offered numerous chances, and declined each and every one? People receive bans for a reason, if the Ninjas were picking off members of the community for minor offenses then indeed we would have a problem. With great power, comes great responsibility - and as it stands the Ninjas do a fine job.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] random no337 Since mods are obviously patrolling this thread, can I ask what standard procedure is for accounts that you [i]know[/i] are alts avoiding a ban for one or more reasons (posting style, avatar, join date, name etc)?[/quote] It's easy to know who's an alt, why not take care of them? If you know you don't need any evidence! You have no rights remember?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] True Underdog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] a squiggly apple You act as if it matters whether I get banned or not, making a new account is just a minor inconvenience.[/quote] It's even less of an inconvenience to remove your account from the main forums. The problem you run into is that nobody knows (or cares) who you are because you have no identity on this website.[/quote] >Implying I care about my reputation on a forum Honestly that is sad.
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Since mods are obviously patrolling this thread, can I ask what standard procedure is for accounts that you [i]know[/i] are alts avoiding a ban for one or more reasons (posting style, avatar, join date, name etc)?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] im am b0red [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mister death people can change[/quote][url=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GEClzTQ1DYs/T6f2IIdbg9I/AAAAAAAAAJM/cjQC_gjleLk/s1600/Meat58.jpg]JOHN[/url] [url=http://graphichive.net/uploaded/fordesigner/1313112542.jpg]CENA[/url][/quote] Clever linking. +1 internets [/quote]thanks :)[/quote]Give this man Recon armor.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] im am b0red [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mister death people can change[/quote][url=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GEClzTQ1DYs/T6f2IIdbg9I/AAAAAAAAAJM/cjQC_gjleLk/s1600/Meat58.jpg]JOHN[/url] [url=http://graphichive.net/uploaded/fordesigner/1313112542.jpg]CENA[/url][/quote] Clever linking. +1 internets [/quote]thanks :) [Edited on 12.07.2012 2:33 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Thrasher Fan If they break the rules that bad they don't deserve a second chance.[/quote]
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I like point 3. Down with the alts!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mister death [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ankerd123 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BahamutZER0 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mister death 3. Stops Alts from being created [/quote]That would be the idea yes[/quote] wot. what's stopping them from creating more??[/quote] Why would they if their main account can be used? [/quote] In hindsight, what's stopping them anyway from creating and using an alternate account no matter how lengthy the ban is; especially when it comes to people who do it for the sake of flame-bating/flaming? It is an easy objective because of the low difficulty to avoid the penalty - their main account can't be compromised, yet they don't care if a particular alt receives a permanent or any length ban. It's an unfortunate win-win scenario because of how easy it is to get a response from baiting and flaming users. That's the underlying problem and that's why this idea won't reduce the number of alts created.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mister death people can change[/quote][url=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GEClzTQ1DYs/T6f2IIdbg9I/AAAAAAAAAJM/cjQC_gjleLk/s1600/Meat58.jpg]JOHN[/url] [url=http://graphichive.net/uploaded/fordesigner/1313112542.jpg]CENA[/url][/quote] Clever linking. +1 internets
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I was perma banned right before Reach came out because I "Leaked" content. I joked saying someone died first, not knowing If I was right or not. The perma bans are a disgrace.
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Are they really permanent? I just assumed they were until 3000 CE or something. 1000 years goes by in the blink of an eye.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lobster Fish 2 I do not believe it should be done away with, it teaches many great lessons.[/quote] But being banned for 3 months could teach the same lesson, no?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ankerd123 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BahamutZER0 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mister death 3. Stops Alts from being created [/quote]That would be the idea yes[/quote] wot. what's stopping them from creating more??[/quote] Why would they if their main account can be used?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Thrasher Fan If they break the rules that bad they don't deserve a second chance.[/quote] I was perma banned once and I got to come back. I changed.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AR IS4 NUBS [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TopWargamer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AR IS4 NUBS [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] True Underdog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] a squiggly apple You act as if it matters whether I get banned or not, making a new account is just a minor inconvenience.[/quote] It's even less of an inconvenience to remove your account from the main forums. The problem you run into is that nobody knows (or cares) who you are because you have no identity on this website.[/quote]/lawyered.[/quote] TU's not a lawyer though.... >.>[/quote]::facepalm:: I'm guessing you never seen How I Met Your Mother...? Not referring him to be as a lawyer.[/quote] Never watched that show. >.>
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Even if they did away with it they would find away around it. Ban them for amonth then ban them another when it runs out.
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I do not believe it should be done away with, it teaches many great lessons.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BahamutZER0 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mister death 3. Stops Alts from being created [/quote]That would be the idea yes[/quote] wot. what's stopping them from creating more??
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mister death [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] True Underdog Mind your temper, breeto. :)[/quote]I hate you all and may you all burn in the eternal fire of damnation. I mean... I love... bunnies. Yeah. Bunnies.[/quote] Reported @TU I know it wouldn't, it was just an example. So, you're saying no one has been perma'd over flaming someone?[/quote] I don't know 100% for a fact if someone has or hasn't been instantly permabanned for "flaming" - I'm telling you that they most likely would have to have a lengthy history of the same offense, including long bans for it, before getting a permaban. Permabans are not handed out lightly. Like I said originally, someone would have been given plenty of chances to "change" before getting permanently removed from the website. [Edited on 12.06.2012 6:03 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BahamutZER0 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mister death 3. Stops Alts from being created [/quote]That would be the idea yes[/quote] and how might i ask are they going to go about enforcing that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Centauratron [quote]1. people can change[/quote]They can, but most don't. [quote]2. Forever is too long[/quote]No, it isn't. Sometimes it's not even long enough. [quote]3. Stops Alts from being created[/quote]Yeah, I don'y really see that. It [i]might[/i] cut back on them a bit, but it won't put an end to it, not by a long shot.[/quote] Alright well those are hollow rebuttals.
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I like this. They should be changed to 1, 2, 3, 4 year bans.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] True Underdog Mind your temper, breeto. :)[/quote]I hate you all and may you all burn in the eternal fire of damnation. I mean... I love... bunnies. Yeah. Bunnies.[/quote] Reported @TU I know it wouldn't, it was just an example. So, you're saying no one has been perma'd over flaming someone?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TopWargamer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AR IS4 NUBS [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] True Underdog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] a squiggly apple You act as if it matters whether I get banned or not, making a new account is just a minor inconvenience.[/quote] It's even less of an inconvenience to remove your account from the main forums. The problem you run into is that nobody knows (or cares) who you are because you have no identity on this website.[/quote]/lawyered.[/quote] TU's not a lawyer though.... >.>[/quote]::facepalm:: I'm guessing you never seen How I Met Your Mother...? Not referring him to be as a lawyer. [Edited on 12.06.2012 4:28 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] True Underdog Mind your temper, breeto. :)[/quote]I hate you all and may you all burn in the eternal fire of damnation. I mean... I love... bunnies. Yeah. Bunnies.
