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11/29/2012 11:34:40 PM
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Everything is happening right now (theory disproven)
[quote]Nevermind, this was disproven. It would be -blam!- awesome if it were true, though.[/quote]
The universe is infinite. That means that it contains infinite space. That means that it contains infinite events.
And since it contains infinite events, that means that literally [i]everything[/i] is happening. Somewhere, right now, you are dating the girl of your dreams. Somewhere, right now, you are being chased by a bloodthirsty killer.
This wouldn't be possible if the universe was 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 trillion lightyears long. It would be nigh impossible. But because of the simple fact that the universe is infinite, it is possible.
Isn't that cray?
[Edited on 11.29.2012 3:53 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UK Dark Wolf360 Ugh, there's really no point to trying to tell you that science is actually a good thing - and, in my opinion, the best thing that a small portion over time (and still today) of humanity has bothered to invest time, effort, brainpower and whole lives to. Without science - what's the point? Humanity has always had a natural curiosity to know and learn about the universe around us - science is the means to achieve such goals, there is so much we have learnt from science and yet so much more to learn which will enable us to move forward as a species and advance into the future as a better society. I, for one, am glad that I chose the path of being a scientist (physicist) - it brings much satisfactions knowing that I am solving the problems and answering the questions that our species has had for so long; and I know that my work will lead to the benefit of humanity in the future (both near and long-term). If you do not appreciate the work that I and millions of others of scientists do - then fine, just don't try to stop us from achieving the work which has helped so many and will continue to do so for as long as humanity exists and maintains curiosity.[/quote]What's the point? The point is to live and love each other as human beings. To form a community of peace. Ignorance is inevitable. There will always be more questions, one's that can't and won't be answered. How does finding the missing link house the homeless? How does finding water on Mars feed the hungry?[/quote] As I expected, you will still not listen to reason. Your mind is set on a ridiculous, pointless objection to science. I don't expect you to understand the need for science and how important it is as you are an arts student.
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Have you ever heard of the Omniverse Theory?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UK Dark Wolf360 Ugh, there's really no point to trying to tell you that science is actually a good thing - and, in my opinion, the best thing that a small portion over time (and still today) of humanity has bothered to invest time, effort, brainpower and whole lives to. Without science - what's the point? Humanity has always had a natural curiosity to know and learn about the universe around us - science is the means to achieve such goals, there is so much we have learnt from science and yet so much more to learn which will enable us to move forward as a species and advance into the future as a better society. I, for one, am glad that I chose the path of being a scientist (physicist) - it brings much satisfactions knowing that I am solving the problems and answering the questions that our species has had for so long; and I know that my work will lead to the benefit of humanity in the future (both near and long-term). If you do not appreciate the work that I and millions of others of scientists do - then fine, just don't try to stop us from achieving the work which has helped so many and will continue to do so for as long as humanity exists and maintains curiosity.[/quote]What's the point? The point is to live and love each other as human beings. To form a community of peace. Ignorance is inevitable. There will always be more questions, one's that can't and won't be answered. How does finding the missing link house the homeless? How does finding water on Mars feed the hungry?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UK Dark Wolf360 Hehe, you just admitted that you don't have a clue. Anyway, through the process of gaining knowledge and deploying various scientific observational and experimentation methods one can develop science and progress it in a way which will lead to processes which will benefit humanity due to higher efficiency in the experimental methods developed through practising the science (which is done by finding out about, well, everything - including Jupiter). For example, a whole new area of mathematics called group theory was developed from the work of theoretical physicists - and such mathematics has gone on to be used in all kinds of fields where the benefits to humanity are being developed rapidly.[/quote]Lol, I was actually referring to the suggestion of trolling. So you're saying that space travel is "prepping" us for other kinds of science? Billions of dollars are spent for nothing more than practice? That is a gigantic waste.[/quote] Ugh, there's really no point to trying to tell you that science is actually a good thing - and, in my opinion, the best thing that a small portion over time (and still today) of humanity has bothered to invest time, effort, brainpower and whole lives to. Without science - what's the point? Humanity has always had a natural curiosity to know and learn about the universe around us - science is the means to achieve such goals, there is so much we have learnt from science and yet so much more to learn which will enable us to move forward as a species and advance into the future as a better society. I, for one, am glad that I chose the path of being a scientist (physicist) - it brings much satisfactions knowing that I am solving the problems and answering the questions that our species has had for so long; and I know that my work will lead to the benefit of humanity in the future (both near and long-term). If you do not appreciate the work that I and millions of others of scientists do - then fine, just don't try to stop us from achieving the work which has helped so many and will continue to do so for as long as humanity exists and maintains curiosity.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UK Dark Wolf360 Hehe, you just admitted that you don't have a clue. Anyway, through the process of gaining knowledge and deploying various scientific observational and experimentation methods one can develop science and progress it in a way which will lead to processes which will benefit humanity due to higher efficiency in the experimental methods developed through practising the science (which is done by finding out about, well, everything - including Jupiter). For example, a whole new area of mathematics called group theory was developed from the work of theoretical physicists - and such mathematics has gone on to be used in all kinds of fields where the benefits to humanity are being developed rapidly.[/quote]Lol, I was actually referring to the suggestion of trolling. So you're saying that space travel is "prepping" us for other kinds of science? Billions of dollars are spent for nothing more than practice? That is a gigantic waste.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UK Dark Wolf360 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frasier Crane How are you supposed to be of assistance in anything if you know nothing?[/quote] Is it really necessary to know how large Jupiter is? Or what the mitochondria in the cell do? No. It's more important to know how to give, how to love.[/quote] You really do not have a clue about science and it's role in society, do you? I actually hope you are trolling now...[/quote]No. Explain to me how knowing fun facts about Jupiter helps the people living on Earth.[/quote] Hehe, you just admitted that you don't have a clue. Anyway, through the process of gaining knowledge and deploying various scientific observational and experimentation methods one can develop science and progress it in a way which will lead to processes which will benefit humanity due to higher efficiency in the experimental methods developed through practising the science (which is done by finding out about, well, everything - including Jupiter). For example, a whole new area of mathematics called group theory was developed from the work of theoretical physicists - and such mathematics has gone on to be used in all kinds of fields where the benefits to humanity are being developed rapidly.
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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeZ9HhHU86o]Relevant...I guess.[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frasier Crane Lock this thread up. [/quote] What rule am I breaking, exactly?
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Lock this thread up.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UK Dark Wolf360 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frasier Crane How are you supposed to be of assistance in anything if you know nothing?[/quote] Is it really necessary to know how large Jupiter is? Or what the mitochondria in the cell do? No. It's more important to know how to give, how to love.[/quote] You really do not have a clue about science and it's role in society, do you? I actually hope you are trolling now...[/quote]No. Explain to me how knowing fun facts about Jupiter helps the people living on Earth.
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Dat sheet cray
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It's constantly expanding.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frasier Crane How are you supposed to be of assistance in anything if you know nothing?[/quote] Is it really necessary to know how large Jupiter is? Or what the mitochondria in the cell do? No. It's more important to know how to give, how to love.[/quote] You really do not have a clue about science and it's role in society, do you? I actually hope you are trolling now...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frasier Crane How are you supposed to be of assistance in anything if you know nothing?[/quote] Is it really necessary to know how large Jupiter is? Or what the mitochondria in the cell do? No. It's more important to know how to give, how to love. [Edited on 11.30.2012 1:32 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lies [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem >atom bomb >cell theory >space travel in general[/quote] You listed one negative and two positives, and the first one is debatable. The fact is that without science, you wouldn't have any of the technology you enjoy today. Science is not some mystical worldview. It's just a way to not fool ourselves. You might as well say you don't like learning.[/quote]Science has helped in some basic things, like medicine. Other than that, we need to stop learning things just for the sake of learning things. Helping others is more important than knowledge.[/quote]How are you supposed to be of assistance in anything if you know nothing? Fk I just took the trollbait. I feel retarded. [Edited on 11.29.2012 5:03 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lies [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem >atom bomb >cell theory >space travel in general[/quote] You listed one negative and two positives, and the first one is debatable. The fact is that without science, you wouldn't have any of the technology you enjoy today. Science is not some mystical worldview. It's just a way to not fool ourselves. You might as well say you don't like learning.[/quote]Science has helped in some basic things, like medicine. Other than that, we need to stop learning things just for the sake of learning things. Helping others is more important than knowledge.[/quote]Booooring I want to know how things work
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lies [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem >atom bomb >cell theory >space travel in general[/quote] You listed one negative and two positives, and the first one is debatable. The fact is that without science, you wouldn't have any of the technology you enjoy today. Science is not some mystical worldview. It's just a way to not fool ourselves. You might as well say you don't like learning.[/quote]Science has helped in some basic things, like medicine. Other than that, we need to stop learning things just for the sake of learning things. Helping others is more important than knowledge.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gaara444 [url=http://htwins.net/scale2/]No it isn't.[/url] [/quote] That is a rough estimate on the minumum size of the Universe. I'd put money on it being far larger than that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UK Dark Wolf360 Admittedly, yes, one must've studied or must be studying physics/mathematics to a high level (post-graduate) in order to understand the majority of papers there - I understand quite a few of the particle physics / quantum mechanics ones, but that's because I am a particle physicist![/quote] Oh nice, I was mainly referring to getting other people here to read them. I actually tried and found it too challenging, but my background is in CS and I'm not in grad school yet. Though I suppose Brian Cox could be lurking here...I saw a couple posts on physicsforums by someone at least claiming to be him lol. Incidentally, I was reading a thread on Not Even Wrong the other day where Lubos Motl was yelling at pretty much everyone. That guy is insane and hilarious lol.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lies [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Muffin enforcer This is why we see galaxies recede from us at a speed greater than c.[/quote] Think about what you're saying lol.[/quote] Yes, quite.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Muffin enforcer This is why we see galaxies recede from us at a speed greater than c.[/quote] Think about what you're saying lol.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] teh Chaz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Muffin enforcer It's pretty hard to obtain a direct estimate of the size of the universe when it is expanding at a rate greater than the speed of light[/quote]eh?[/quote] The limit on speed imposed by special relativity is only limited to objects moving through 'space', as vague a definition of that is. This is why we see galaxies recede from us at a speed greater than c.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lies [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UK Dark Wolf360 [url=http://uk.arxiv.org/]Here[/url] is a good resource of scientific papers upon such a topic and more if you want high-level physics.[/quote] Hah, good luck with that. I used to subscribe to arXiv's physics, mathematics, and computer science rss feeds, but they were way too far above me. I can semi-understand many of the cs ones, but physics and math were overwhelming.[/quote] Admittedly, yes, one must've studied or must be studying physics/mathematics to a high level (post-graduate) in order to understand the majority of papers there - I understand quite a few of the particle physics / quantum mechanics ones, but that's because I am a particle physicist!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UK Dark Wolf360 [url=http://uk.arxiv.org/]Here[/url] is a good resource of scientific papers upon such a topic and more if you want high-level physics.[/quote] Hah, good luck with that. I used to subscribe to arXiv's physics, mathematics, and computer science rss feeds, but they were way too far above me. I can semi-understand many of the cs ones, but physics and math were overwhelming.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Muffin enforcer It's pretty hard to obtain a direct estimate of the size of the universe when it is expanding at a rate greater than the speed of light[/quote]eh?
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Fairly certain OP is just trolling now
