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11/18/2012 7:21:33 AM
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What exactly did the Didact want in Halo 4?
The whole time I fought against him I did not know exactly what he wanted to do to humanity. I understand he was the leader of the Forunner military, but I'm not sure what his goal is during the game.
Ok he wanted to eliminate humanity, I got that, but I don't understand why?
Final question, how was the composer going to turn humanity into Promethians?
[Edited on 11.17.2012 11:34 PM PST]
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He wanted our bodies
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Watch the original Star Wars movies. Didact = Darth Vader.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cameo_cream humanity are the only ones who have beaten the Flood.[/quote] Technically, this isn't actually true - and the Ur-Didact likely knows it. It's explained by the Timeless One that the Flood simply stopped infecting humanity because they passed the Precursors' 'test' for the Mantle.[/quote] I know. But the Didact is still too stupid to realize this even so. He needs to spend a few more hundred thousand years thinking.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cameo_cream humanity are the only ones who have beaten the Flood.[/quote] Technically, this isn't actually true - and the Ur-Didact likely knows it. It's explained by the Timeless One that the Flood simply stopped infecting humanity because they passed the Precursors' 'test' for the Mantle.
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Eliminate the Human race from the galaxy because he believes that the Forerunners deserve the mantle and his revenge for the lost worlds and that the panicked ancient Human civilization brought the Flood at the Forerunner's door step.
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Humanity was to take control of the mantel of responsibility. The Didact was a loser and couldnt accept the fact that the Forerunners were complete morons and didnt want to lose that power. His plan was to destroy humanity again, because the Didact is too stupid to realize humanity are the only ones who have beaten the Flood.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zealot Tony You'd think that 343 would include all the important information from the terminals into the main story, namely the Didacts motives as to why he believes humanity should be composed. That, and then explain how the Storm Covenant formed.[/quote] It is explained in the main game through the revival of the Didact, the flashback to the Human/Forerunner war, the Didact's dialogue in Shutdown, the final confrontation scene, the Epilogue... Pretty much every time the Didact appears there is a layer of exposition granted to the player, it is simply examined with more depth in the Terminals. (Though I realise that my point would be more credible if you could actually view the Terminals [i]in the game[/i].)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zealot Tony You'd think that 343 would include all the important information from the terminals into the main story; namely the Didact's motives as to why he believes humanity should be composed. That, and then explain how the Storm Covenant formed.[/quote] I'll actually agree with this to an extent. If that was the main point of the story it should have been made a little more clear in the main story rather than the side terminals. Terminals should be for backstory and lore, not key story elements.
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Apparently so. There seems to be a vocal majority that thin the plot wasn't told to them correctly, even though all the material is there.
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You'd think that 343 would include all the important information from the terminals into the main story; namely the Didact's motives as to why he believes humanity should be composed. That, and then explain how the Storm Covenant formed. [Edited on 11.18.2012 2:40 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheBestTheyHad To expand his promethean army using the composer. [/quote] This. The Precursors are coming back so he needs an army to face them, and the Terminals show that the Didact believes that humanity's composition is final payment for their crimes against the Forerunners. He's told by the Librarian that humanity will grow and prosper to attain the Mantle, the Didact believes that the Mantle of Responsibility belongs, as he says, "to Forerunners alone". Did so few people actually [i]pay attention[/i]?[/quote] I didn't hit all the terminals the first time though, don't judge me.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheBestTheyHad To expand his promethean army using the composer. [/quote] This. The Precursors are coming back so he needs an army to face them, and the Terminals show that the Didact believes that humanity's composition is final payment for their crimes against the Forerunners. He's told by the Librarian that humanity will grow and prosper to attain the Mantle, the Didact believes that the Mantle of Responsibility belongs, as he says, "to Forerunners alone". Did so few people actually [i]pay attention[/i]?
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To expand his promethean army using the composer.
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to exterminate the human race so he doesn't look ugly anymore by comparison
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petarded2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Scoopicus He thinks what he's doing is right because he's seen the destructive path that humans have taken in the past, and wants to protect the galaxy from what he believes to be the most threatening thing in the galaxy. Sure his morals are completely messed up, but they're there.[/quote]see, *this* is what i wanted, not "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE THOUGHT BCUZ HES WEIRD ALIEN."[/quote] Just got done reading the thread, and even though the other guy didn't specifically state that towards you, he, among a few others already stated those reasons towards other people. Dude, you are nothing short of stupid.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petarded2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Scoopicus He thinks what he's doing is right because he's seen the destructive path that humans have taken in the past, and wants to protect the galaxy from what he believes to be the most threatening thing in the galaxy. Sure his morals are completely messed up, but they're there.[/quote]see, *this* is what i wanted, not "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE THOUGHT BCUZ HES WEIRD ALIEN."[/quote] I don't even see how it was that hard of a concept to argue. The fact that people believed his morals were acceptable in the first place under any standard was stupid too, because the entire point of the game was how okay they WEREN'T. The rest of the Forerunner imprisoned him for what he did. Even they realized the Didact's ideals were ass-backwards.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Scoopicus He thinks what he's doing is right because he's seen the destructive path that humans have taken in the past, and wants to protect the galaxy from what he believes to be the most threatening thing in the galaxy. Sure his morals are completely messed up, but they're there.[/quote]see, *this* is what i wanted, not "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE THOUGHT BCUZ HES WEIRD ALIEN."
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hired Gun [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petarded2 thank god. i actually mildly respected you before this thread.[/quote] Who knew Halo discussions could get so intense.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petarded2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Teh puma Those are alien morals, not of human nature. Regardless of whether or not you see it as the right thing to do, or flawed logic does not matter simply because it a foreign though process to you.[/quote]GAAAH. let's break this down: -he is a conscious being. -he is doing what he thinks is morally right. okay, WHY DOES HE THINK IT'S RIGHT? that's all i'm asking. what moral standard is he upholding? if you say "it varies," then the *real* answer is "none," and didact may as well be some crazy bond-villain with a destructo-ray.[/quote] He thinks what he's doing is right because he's seen the destructive path that humans have taken in the past, and wants to protect the galaxy from what he believes to be the most threatening thing in the galaxy. Sure his morals are completely messed up, but they're there.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petarded2 thank god. i actually mildly respected you before this thread.[/quote] Who knew Halo discussions could get so intense.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Teh puma Those are alien morals, not of human nature. Regardless of whether or not you see it as the right thing to do, or flawed logic does not matter simply because it a foreign though process to you.[/quote]GAAAH. let's break this down: -he is a conscious being. -he is doing what he thinks is morally right. okay, WHY DOES HE THINK IT'S RIGHT? that's all i'm asking. what moral standard is he upholding? if you say "it varies," then the *real* answer is "none," and didact may as well be some crazy bond-villain with a destructo-ray. [Edited on 11.18.2012 2:12 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DecepticonCobra I hope Halo: Silentium explains who pissed in the Didact's Cheerios because he did a complete 180 in terms of character from the Forerunner Saga to Halo 4.[/quote] I'm wondering this, too. The Didact seemed like a pretty swell guy.
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He wanted to eliminate humanity due to the fact that they had a war with ancient humans and almost lost, and feared them as the most dangerous threat in existence. The Composer would have digitized them and allowed them to be repurposed as Prometheans. That's why when they were killed they exploded into data spikes; that was the digitized genetic code of composed humans.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Teh puma Petarded, if you're not a troll, actually try looking for character development instead of -blam!-ing about it not being spoonfed to you[/quote]would've been nice if you'd actually ever presented a backed-up argument. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Teh puma It's 4am, teh puma is done for the night.[/quote]thank god. i actually mildly respected you before this thread.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Teh puma First off, we've been attacked by forerunner AI before, not exactly sure where you are going with that bit.[/quote]how about the "343 isn't ever-hostile" bit? there's never been a halo game where the ai was programmed to actively hate and kill humans on sight. 343 GS only ever attacked when MC tried to stop halo from firing. [quote]Secondly, plenty of people understood the gravemind, he really doesn't understand how you could think we didn't know what he was going for later on in the story.[/quote]but many were alienated. the issue really could be solved by just having cortana call him a flood. most of the people i played with initially figured him for a weird plant monster. [quote]From what teh puma can tell, you base the entirety of these stories off of the intros of characters alone.[/quote]not at all. i'm making two arguments: (1) the didact is flat, and (2) he has an awkward intro. obviously a character isn't flat just because he has an awkward intro. [quote]Part of the fun of character development is learning about them overtime instead of being spoonfed the information right from the get go.[/quote]i'm not asking to be spoonfed, but some basic things like the character's name and his motivations should (generally) be made at least moderately apparent.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petarded2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Teh puma And again, the Didact isn't human. What is "right and wrong" is not set in stone. They are based off of ever changing morals. Morals change for anyone. That includes the Didact. [/quote]why did the didact think what he was doing is right? how could a character that you insist is 3-dimensional cope with such apparent flaws in reasoning? and if my summary of didact was poor, WHY was it poor?[/quote] The summary was poor because (as teh puma already stated,) it was nothing more than a basic formula of simplification that can be put onto any story to make it sound terrible. Seriously, go ahead and do it to the best story you've ever read. And again, teh puma has already told you. Those are alien morals, not of human nature. Regardless of whether or not you see it as the right thing to do, or flawed logic does not matter simply because it a foreign though process to you. edit: It's 4am, teh puma is done for the night. Petarded, if you're not a troll, actually try looking for character development instead of -blam!-ing about it not being spoonfed to you. If you are a troll then oh well. [Edited on 11.18.2012 1:53 AM PST]
