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11/12/2012 6:54:09 AM
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A "Brutally Honest" Halo 4 Review
[url=http://addicted-gamers.com/2012/11/11/halo-4-xbox-360-review-a-shadow-of-its-former-self/]Halo 4: A Shadow of its Former Self[/url]
What do you think, Flood? The opinions seem to be greatly divided so far. Most people either absolutely love the game or have expressed similar complaints as some of what is listed in the review.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShadowHalo94 The whole section about the campaign is invalid. She clearly doesn't understand the Halo lore, probably never even reading the necessary books. Even then, all you need to do to understand the story better is to view the terminals which, apparently, she didn't do. The campaign, IMO, is the best of the Halo series so far. Saying that it was poorly articulated throws off her credibility. And complaining about the sound effects? The sound effects are magnificent in Halo 4. Everything else complained about are personal gripes. I personally had no problem with the AI nor the "lack of strategic play" (I played co-op with my roommate on Heroic and there were many times where we had to plan out our attack). Who hired her? I disagree completely with the multiplayer review. Halo 4's multiplayer is extremely fun and rewarding. The reviewer blows ordnance drops way out of proportion. Never have I encountered a severe problem with power weapons. Who ever had a power weapon was usually taken out quickly by the opposing team. That's the thing: this game is much more team oriented than previous games. Team shooting the mantis, team shooting the guy with the power weapons, etc. Spawns were dynamic in Halo 3, as well. Remember Narrows? Map control is still very possible in Halo 4. It's clear to me that this guy must be pretty bad at the game or hasn't played with a strategic, cooperating team. [/quote]honestly, while I myself am a canon junkie, and haven't even played H4 yet tbh (still waiting for it to be mailed by my parents), if someone who hasn't taken all that effort can't understand the story at least superficially, I consider that to be a failure in and of itself.
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The whole section about the campaign is invalid. She clearly doesn't understand the Halo lore, probably never even reading the necessary books. Even then, all you need to do to understand the story better is to view the terminals which, apparently, she didn't do. The campaign, IMO, is the best of the Halo series so far. Saying that it was poorly articulated throws off her credibility. And complaining about the sound effects? The sound effects are magnificent in Halo 4. Everything else complained about are personal gripes. I personally had no problem with the AI nor the "lack of strategic play" (I played co-op with my roommate on Heroic and there were many times where we had to plan out our attack). Who hired her? I disagree completely with the multiplayer review. Halo 4's multiplayer is extremely fun and rewarding. The reviewer blows ordnance drops way out of proportion. Never have I encountered a severe problem with power weapons. Who ever had a power weapon was usually taken out quickly by the opposing team. That's the thing: this game is much more team oriented than previous games. Team shooting the mantis, team shooting the guy with the power weapons, etc. Spawns were dynamic in Halo 3, as well. Remember Narrows? Map control is still very possible in Halo 4. It's clear to me that this guy must be pretty bad at the game or hasn't played with a strategic, cooperating team.
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What? And all the other reviews aren't "brutally honest" and are paid off by microsoft? What has the world come to when such accusations are made against reviewers... They're all opinions and nothing more. Some people like the game and some don't. Does that make the people who enjoyed and liked the game any less honest or any more blinded by the Halo brand any more? No, it really doesn't. [Edited on 11.12.2012 7:13 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dazarobbo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WolfmanMaverick I stopped reading when the author started talking about nonexistent AI problems.[/quote][url]http://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postsm1710264_How-s-the-AI-in-this-game.aspx#post1710264[/url][/quote]Funny how I have never had any of those happen to me.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WolfmanMaverick I stopped reading when the author started talking about nonexistent AI problems.[/quote][url]http://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postsm1710264_How-s-the-AI-in-this-game.aspx#post1710264[/url]
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I agree with a lot of it. Halo 4 has had me love it, then hate it all in the same day. The story is nothing more than a shallow 'shoot your way out' campaign, that is brief in nature. The multiplayer at the core is broken. Halo has always been praised for a simplistic multiplayer, were if you want a rocket launcher or power-up you had to go get it on the map, not from ordnance drops. Plus don't get me started with the AAs, tactical abilities, and support abilities, that just ruin the fairness of the game. Halo 4 can be good if they get rid of ordnance drops, instant respawn, joining mid game, weapons such as needlers, BRs, ARs, etc. spawn on the map in the same location every time, and if all these special advantages that are given to players who rank up are taken away. [Edited on 11.12.2012 6:56 AM PST]
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the new game design since reach has encouraged players to give their teammates the middle finger when asked to play cooperatively. I remember saying this in a thread about hating Halo 4 if you disliked Halo Reach. It's so sad. Halo 4 went even further into this direction. As a long time admirer of Halo, I can't help but say that I was right at the time, and that I am right today. Halo 4 has the potential to be good, just like the review said. It just needs to take away and/or severely tweak these new game designs. Ordnance drops...instant respawns...no weapon spawns....armor abilities. People who think this is good don't know what Halo was and why it was praised.
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I feel it's the best written story yet, but the most poorly built (if that makes sense?). I think they should have spent a little more time making the game a little more fun to play and not as pretty as it is. The multiplayer, while different, is pretty enjoyable but only when I'm in a party. All in all, I'm not upset at the 60 bucks I spent.
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I stopped reading when the author started talking about nonexistent AI problems.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zarrowsmith All I got from that review was that the reviewer was mad that they weren't very good at the game, and that essentially made the game bad.[/quote] full retard. Never go full retard.
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Agreed with the Campaign part. and multiplayer.... don't really care.
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Seems about right.
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Also, a friend of mine just tweeted what I can wholeheartedly agree with: "It's like feeling a sublime bliss, but when it ends and you reflect on it, you realize that you knew on some level that something was wrong. The game's not a failure. That it can trigger bliss in the first place is a success. But that constant sense that something is off... :\" Once the novelty wears off (and though it varies for each person, it does wear off), this quote cannot be more true.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dazarobbo[/quote] I agree with all of your points on Waypoint too, especially the one on Sound Effects being too loud. Also, glad someone else noticed the Sunglasses quip. Y U SO BRIGHT?!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lI Maverick lI I agree completely with the review.[/quote]
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Agree 99% with the review on both facets, especially with this line: "This is the problem with cheap thrills; they do not tend to last very long." [Edited on 11.12.2012 6:28 AM PST]
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Good review. I wish more people would review games likes this rather than praising them blindly (*cough* IGN).
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES My brutally honest Halo 4 review: Great game, some problems but over all still fantastic.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] What Is This1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] C0NFUZ3D Disagree completely with the Campaign review- It was my favorite Halo campaign to date. The relationship between Cortana and Chief was great, as well as developing a key theme throughout the entire campaign (Humanity vs Machine). Del Rio hardly detracted from the story, although he was a prick. The Didact was a key enemy, introducing the Forerunners and Prometheans into the story and deserved the light he got. I didn't really have a problem with AI, although they weren't the greatest, I don't see it taking away from the campaign experience much. Overall review of the campaign review? 2/10 would not read review from again. The multiplayer aspect, I agree with some points. But my overall opinion is simple: the core gameplay is great, and leagues ahead of Reach. It's the things that are onto that cause the game to flaw, and I hope 343i gets to patching and listens to the community now that we have the game.[/quote] It was a 2.5 out of 5 which translates to a 5 out of 10. As for the story it was bland at best. It was filled with cliches and the whole MC and Cortana thing was really pathetic. She is an AI and has always been an AI. Unless you are one of those kids that wants her to be real I don't see the reason to have emotions for her.[/quote] So are we suddenly not allowed to have a soft spot for C3-PO? Or hell, no character ever in existence? They're no more real than Cortana, so why have emotions for them? Cortana is an AI, but she is an AI trying to be human, and that struggle alone is enough to warrent caring for her as a character.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MsCadetUNIVERSE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zarrowsmith "Multiplayer is bad because: I can't strategy/tactics, no one will play with me."[/quote][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP5PDV1kXT8]I see Tom's reputation precedes him.[/url][/quote] You couldn't link the version [i]without[/i] the voices? Zarrowsmith, the Knights' ability to teleport, not to mention spawn their own repair mechanisms, makes them a very chaotic enemy. Difficult to use much tactical play beyond "keep shooting and hope they don't zoom up behind me." Checkpoints being scarce is not as much of a problem, but again they are chaotic. Spawning in the middle of a firefight or two areas back from where you were is just annoying, no matter how skilled you are.[/quote] The campaign was easy and so were the enemies.
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Actually, COME ON. One serious review in some random website gets so many hits just because they are putting a normal score that the game deserves?
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I can agree with some of their points, but 343i have said they hope to add to and improve on the game through TUs, so hopefully some of those issues will be resolved.
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The campaign is lacking, but the multiplayer is much better than Retch.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zarrowsmith All I got from that review was that the reviewer was mad that they weren't very good at the game, and that essentially made the game bad.[/quote] Then you clearly have trouble reading. [url=http://www.hookedonphonics.com/]No need to thank me.[/url]
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My brutally honest Halo 4 review: Great game, some problems but over all still fantastic.
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Pro Tip: Reviews written by people who's sole authority on Halo is that they post on BNet are best ignored. That one was nearly as bad as a metacritic user review.
