Obviously Halo, because of [b][i]Halo[/i][/b].

Nevermind [Edited on 11.28.2012 3:43 PM PST]

Forerunners>Star Wars>everything else

Star Wars always wins. And when people bring in the Precursors and the Forerunners I say lol. The Rakata, and the Celestials would own them. [Edited on 11.28.2012 3:10 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef Star Wars ROFLstomps the Covenant and the UNSC without a sweat. The UNSC Infinity and Covenant battleships are a joke next to ships like the [url=http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120409215318/starwars/images/3/30/AptlyNamedWrath-EGW.jpg]Assertor class Super Star Destroyer[/url]. [/quote] That's just overkill. The Imperial II-class Star Destroyer would most likely own them. In The Empire Strikes Back they went through an asteroid field. While being pounding by asteroids larger than the Millennium Falcon without stopping.

star wars>halo great vidya and movies. vidya nerds should step off, thread is over

Halo. Also, do you even Poll OP? [Edited on 11.28.2012 3:02 PM PST]

Lol every post is a REPLY ONLY. I guess this thread won't be locked. And i already posted on page 1 or 2.

Star Wars ROFLstomps the Covenant and the UNSC without a sweat. The UNSC Infinity and Covenant battleships are a joke next to ships like the [url=http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120409215318/starwars/images/3/30/AptlyNamedWrath-EGW.jpg]Assertor class Super Star Destroyer[/url]. Star Wars vs Forerunners is a much more interesting fight. We know tons about Star Wars weapons and ships, but hardly anything about the Forerunner's own navy and ground forces. I think it's safe to say that Forerunners are notably more advanced, but Star Wars' population and industrial base is far larger. But once the Star Wars war economy grinds into gear, the Forerunners would be faced with an unending wave of hundreds of thousands of ships and fighters, millions of clones, billions of soldiers, and quintillions of battle droids.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IrvingI80 Precursors.[/quote] We know next to nothing about them. We have no idea what type of weapons they use and how powerful they are. So bringing them up is pointless. [quote]Covenant.[/quote] The UNSC was able to hold them off for years. Star Wars would ROFLstomp them into the stone age. Everything the UNSC and Convenant has. Star Wars either has, has something similar but better. If they don't have it they can easily make it.

Precursors+Forerunners+Ancient Humans+Covenant=ROFLstomp on Star Wars.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shadroxon Halo ring. End of story.[/quote] -You can be outside of its range and not be effected by it. Even if it did wipe out all life in Star Wars. You still have a near infinite number of droids. -The explosion from the Pillar of Autumn was enough to destroy one. -The Galaxy Gun can fire projectiles across the galaxy at the 7 rings and the Ark. The warheads are capable of destroying an entire planet. There's no hope of destroying the projectile once it's fired. [quote]Each of these projectiles were capable of traveling through hyperspace with a speed equivalent to at least a Class .75 hyperdrive, allowing for quick traversal of interstellar distances and difficulty in detecting them until they struck. Upon exiting hyperspace and homing in on its target, the projectile's automated defenses would activate to deter enemy forces. Automated laser cannon turrets exchanged laser fire with warships while thick armor plating and powerful energy shields deflected even the most advanced ion cannons and turbolasers.[/quote] [Edited on 11.28.2012 2:37 PM PST]

Halo ring. End of story.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] one rabid bunny [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helljumper427 if vader did'nt have the force, MC pwns. [/quote] Didact had the force and Chief beat him.[/quote] If it wasn't for plot and Cortana. The Didact would have owned the Chief.

All right who's the wiseass that necro'd this thread?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helljumper427 if vader did'nt have the force, MC pwns. [/quote] Didact had the force and Chief beat him.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla Why the [i]-blam!-[/i] did you revive this zombie? Can someone call a mod?[/quote] Look at his join date his account wasn't created until today. Which was 20 days after this thread was posted. So he has to be someone that posted in this thread.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] agent texas359 The empire replaced clones with civilians.[/quote] Wrong they still use clones. [quote]The first stormtroopers were Republic clone troopers that the Empire inherited after the Clone Wars. However, the Stormtrooper Corps gradually expanded its ranks to include cloned soldiers from different genetic sources. Further changes in policy led to the recruitment of birth-born Humans as enlisted troopers. Before long, the original clones of the Jango Fett line were reduced to the status of a minority within the army that they once held as their exclusive province.[/quote]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] agent texas359 you fool no one would use the halo array the unsc would be combating the prometheans the precursors haven't had the ability to fight since the forerunner rebellion then theres the fact if you include the flood it would be trying to consume everything except precursors second of all the halo array would not work effectively if you'll take notice installation 03 was deactivated by humanity so the ralie effect would not be as effective that and the halo array can only fire as far as the milky galaxy so the empire just drops into a system with a sun crusher causes a super nova kills everything by the time the halo arrays have been queued to fire the crusher has already jumped out system to safety and then theres the storm covenant it would be doing whatever the prometheans were doing which is eradicating humanity so no the empire would kick though only in space because the imperial army sucks and when the empire replaced clones with civilians the stormtrooper corps just wasn't the same again but in saying that if the empire dominates space well they just glasss the planet the way the covenant did empire wins anyway. [/quote] -facepalms- Why the [i]-blam!-[/i] did you revive this zombie? Can someone call a mod?

you fool no one would use the halo array the unsc would be combating the prometheans the precursors haven't had the ability to fight since the forerunner rebellion then theres the fact if you include the flood it would be trying to consume everything except precursors second of all the halo array would not work effectively if you'll take notice installation 03 was deactivated by humanity so the ralie effect would not be as effective that and the halo array can only fire as far as the milky galaxy so the empire just drops into a system with a sun crusher causes a super nova kills everything by the time the halo arrays have been queued to fire the crusher has already jumped out system to safety and then theres the storm covenant it would be doing whatever the prometheans were doing which is eradicating humanity so no the empire would kick though only in space because the imperial army sucks and when the empire replaced clones with civilians the stormtrooper corps just wasn't the same again but in saying that if the empire dominates space well they just glasss the planet the way the covenant did empire wins anyway.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BerzerkCommando [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WhiteFang0699 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EvilIguana343 forrunners, covenent, Precursors and halo technology would wipe out star wars in an instant.[/quote] Lolno. Who would win then, the Republic or the Covenant? [/quote] The humans managed to hold out for years and they barely won against them. Which by the way the Covenant are more advance than the humans. Anything that both the humans and the Covenant has. The Republic has, has something similar but better, if they don't have it. They can easily make something like it, but better. In the Star Wars universe aren't the Forrunners at mid tier? I seen that posted here a couple of times. [/quote] Star Wars has silent railgun sniper rifles that fire projectiles at the speed of light, and can use [i]anything[/i] as ammunition. Literally. Verpine Shatter Rifles, while not a mainstream Republic weapon, can use [i]pebbles[/i] as ammo and put holes in tanks. And it's completely silent. Not to mention that DC-15A's are confirmed in canon as being capable of firing a single charged shot that uses all the gas, but can punch a gigantic hole in a tank. Hunters would likely be killed by small-arms fire from kilometers away. Hell, the maximum range of just the basic rifle is three kilometers if I remember correctly.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RockdaleRooster [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RockdaleRooster OP please provide me with a source that shows a single Precursor weapon. Please. [/quote] The Flood, for one, and any of the countless civilizations they trashed in their attempts to create the perfect race can testify that they most certaintly do have weapons. If you were to go back in time and steam-roll Native American tribes back before they ever saw the White Man with jets, warships, tanks and assault rifles--and then leave no trace of your presence--would you not call those mysterious devices weapons? The alternative, of course, is space magic, level: Dr. Manhattan, which I'm sure you don't want to consider as a possibility. Can you imagine an intergalactic race of Manhattans? I sure can't. But that isn't the point, is it? If you were to give God a shotgun but retain is invunerability, put him up against everything ever, God would win. Eventually, but he'd still win. It doesn't matter how many superweapons the Warsverse has, or how many warriors in its history, they have nothing that can compare with the word Indestructable. Nor, for that matter, do they have anything that can compare with a force that exists across the universe rather than one galaxy. Wars, for as large as its one galaxy is and as crazy awesome as that one galaxy is, is still being put up against a race of beings that not only are invunerable, but also exist spread throughout the universe. That alone is an advantage that would put even the UNSC at Super-Dangerous-Tier relative to Wars. Shear resource capacity at that level from Halo's weakest faction would be enough to swamp many of Wars' factions alone. Factor in the fact that said faction builds unbreakable technology (as far as Wars' weapons are concerned) and the answer is obvious, regardless of if the Precursors can destroy planets by flicking their fingers, or if they fire spit-balls. Everything else, three ancient factions of which would give Wars a run for their money, one of which could arguably solo it, are just icing on the Omniverse-sized "screw you" cake the Precursors bring.[/quote] Except for the fact that Precursor tech isn't indestructible. It was destroyed by the Halo Arrays. You always want hard facts well now I want one. How do you know precisely what weapons the Precursors had? That's what I'm asking. I've never seen one mention of an actual weapon (Not a species). The Precursors are not indestructible and neither is their technology. Whether the Forerunners defeated them or that they decided to leave is proof enough that they are not omnipotent. They reached a point where they were either defeated or decided it was no longer wise to continue the fight. And then there's the use of the word theoretical when describing Tier-0 tech. So the Precursors may not have had the ability to transcend galaxies but were simply defeated. Also they don't "create" life per-se they accelerate it's evolution. [/quote] The Halo array is the negation of a very particular meta-science concept called Neural Physics, that life and the universe is inextricably linked. The "universe lives, but not as we do" idea is what gave the Precursors their indestructable technology; in essence, it was built with the living consciousness of the universe itself. The closest Star Wars analogy would be The Force, but where the Force is the metaphysical energy that binds all living things, Neural Physics is the science that says all things are living. Similar, but different. Which is why the Halos, a Neural Physics weapon, can destroy their technology, but nothing else can. It is no more possible to destroy the Precursors with conventional tech than it is possible to beat the fabric of the universe to death, or kill a Q with anything that isn't their own technology. So the Precursors are not ominipotent (I never said they were, anyway, rather extremely capable), but the Universe is, and would seem to interact with the denizins of itself with Synchrons, or the strings of fate. As with many things, however, the exact details of this is sketchy. We also do know that they can traverse galaxies, as the Primordial says the Precursors left (which is more than can be said for 99% of the Warsverse) after the Forerunners attacked. This also does not mean they left because of the war itself, as they could just as easily left because they realized their presence was interrupting the natural growth of life in the galaxy. As I said, we don't know anything about why or how or even when the Forerunners "defeated" the Precursors, just that the effective Satan of the story said something. And defeating them doesn't mean jack when you've got access to their tech; otherwise, people would just say that the crew of the USS Voyager defeated the Q, so that must mean the Q suck. IIRC, Primordium also calls the Precursors those who "seeded the galaxy with life." So I'd call that creation.[/quote] The only problem I have is that we don't know enough about the Precursors direct war making capabilities. And a war between them wouldn't be about who has the biggest stick but who has the best leaders. But that's a different argument entirely. We also don't know how they would fare in individual combat. How hard or easy they are to kill or even what weapons they used. Most things about the Precursors are speculation based off the few things we do know about them. Oh and the Primordium says a lot of lies so who knows?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WhiteFang0699 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EvilIguana343 forrunners, covenent, Precursors and halo technology would wipe out star wars in an instant.[/quote] Lolno. Who would win then, the Republic or the Covenant? [/quote] The humans managed to hold out for years and they barely won against them. Which by the way the Covenant are more advance than the humans. Anything that both the humans and the Covenant has. The Republic has, has something similar but better, if they don't have it. They can easily make something like it, but better. In the Star Wars universe aren't the Forrunners at mid tier? I seen that posted here a couple of times.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] catman6 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh IIRC, Primordium also calls the Precursors those who "seeded the galaxy with life." So I'd call that creation.[/quote]Or they brought life from somewhere else.[/quote] Also possible, though seeing as the Forerunners created the Huragok, and the Forerunners are self-admitted cave men next to the Precursors, I'd say the odds are in their favor. Also consider the "created Forerunners and Man in their image," and how that would require total genetic manipulation. But this isn't a debate on who can out-science the other one. The point that matters is that they gave birth too and than obliterated their creations on a whim, so again, denying they have weapons is just stupid. If it can wipe out life, it is a weapon.[/quote] Entire species in Star Wars have been engineered on a whim. Or mutated. There's been several branch-offs due to some mad scientists, and then there's the godawful near-invincible mutant acklays.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RockdaleRooster [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RockdaleRooster OP please provide me with a source that shows a single Precursor weapon. Please. [/quote] The Flood, for one, and any of the countless civilizations they trashed in their attempts to create the perfect race can testify that they most certaintly do have weapons. If you were to go back in time and steam-roll Native American tribes back before they ever saw the White Man with jets, warships, tanks and assault rifles--and then leave no trace of your presence--would you not call those mysterious devices weapons? The alternative, of course, is space magic, level: Dr. Manhattan, which I'm sure you don't want to consider as a possibility. Can you imagine an intergalactic race of Manhattans? I sure can't. But that isn't the point, is it? If you were to give God a shotgun but retain is invunerability, put him up against everything ever, God would win. Eventually, but he'd still win. It doesn't matter how many superweapons the Warsverse has, or how many warriors in its history, they have nothing that can compare with the word Indestructable. Nor, for that matter, do they have anything that can compare with a force that exists across the universe rather than one galaxy. Wars, for as large as its one galaxy is and as crazy awesome as that one galaxy is, is still being put up against a race of beings that not only are invunerable, but also exist spread throughout the universe. That alone is an advantage that would put even the UNSC at Super-Dangerous-Tier relative to Wars. Shear resource capacity at that level from Halo's weakest faction would be enough to swamp many of Wars' factions alone. Factor in the fact that said faction builds unbreakable technology (as far as Wars' weapons are concerned) and the answer is obvious, regardless of if the Precursors can destroy planets by flicking their fingers, or if they fire spit-balls. Everything else, three ancient factions of which would give Wars a run for their money, one of which could arguably solo it, are just icing on the Omniverse-sized "screw you" cake the Precursors bring.[/quote] Except for the fact that Precursor tech isn't indestructible. It was destroyed by the Halo Arrays. You always want hard facts well now I want one. How do you know precisely what weapons the Precursors had? That's what I'm asking. I've never seen one mention of an actual weapon (Not a species). The Precursors are not indestructible and neither is their technology. Whether the Forerunners defeated them or that they decided to leave is proof enough that they are not omnipotent. They reached a point where they were either defeated or decided it was no longer wise to continue the fight. And then there's the use of the word theoretical when describing Tier-0 tech. So the Precursors may not have had the ability to transcend galaxies but were simply defeated. Also they don't "create" life per-se they accelerate it's evolution. [/quote] The Halo array is the negation of a very particular meta-science concept called Neural Physics, that life and the universe is inextricably linked. The "universe lives, but not as we do" idea is what gave the Precursors their indestructable technology; in essence, it was built with the living consciousness of the universe itself. The closest Star Wars analogy would be The Force, but where the Force is the metaphysical energy that binds all living things, Neural Physics is the science that says all things are living. Similar, but different. Which is why the Halos, a Neural Physics weapon, can destroy their technology, but nothing else can. It is no more possible to destroy the Precursors with conventional tech than it is possible to beat the fabric of the universe to death, or kill a Q with anything that isn't their own technology. So the Precursors are not ominipotent (I never said they were, anyway, rather extremely capable), but the Universe is, and would seem to interact with the denizins of itself with Synchrons, or the strings of fate. As with many things, however, the exact details of this is sketchy. We also do know that they can traverse galaxies, as the Primordial says the Precursors left (which is more than can be said for 99% of the Warsverse) after the Forerunners attacked. This also does not mean they left because of the war itself, as they could just as easily left because they realized their presence was interrupting the natural growth of life in the galaxy. As I said, we don't know anything about why or how or even when the Forerunners "defeated" the Precursors, just that the effective Satan of the story said something. And defeating them doesn't mean jack when you've got access to their tech; otherwise, people would just say that the crew of the USS Voyager defeated the Q, so that must mean the Q suck. IIRC, Primordium also calls the Precursors those who "seeded the galaxy with life." So I'd call that creation.[/quote] I believe the point still stands. The fact that the Forerunners managed to get a hold of their tech, and then proceeded to defeat them with it, kind of tarnishes the Precursor's reputation as the top dog of their respected universe. [Edited on 11.12.2012 4:25 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helljumper427 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helljumper427 at the begining of cryptum it's stated that the forerruners have 3 billion worlds, plus the fact they can litterally build them constantly. so it's rather obvious that precursors have several galaxies under their control, considering how much mor avanced they are than the forerruners.[/quote] An ape armed with a stick is more advanced than an ape that isn't. Until we find out how much more advanced the precursors were over the forerunners, all you have to argue with is guesswork.[/quote] if the forerruners can implant gentic codes in certain humans, ie MC, and the precursors can create speices, and that precursors basic level building material is indestructible to all but the most advanced weapons built by the forerruners, its rather obviouns how much more advanced they are.[/quote] They had a few things the forerunners didn't. This makes them more advanced in some areas - but not all-around more advanced. Like I said, an ape with a stick > an ape without a stick. Maybe they were more advanced than the forerunners in that their cuisine was tastier or something. Until we have an exact figure on how they were more powerful, it's a moot point. What do we know about the precursors and their technology? Very bloody little, aside from that they were more advanced than the forerunners by an unknown degree and supposedly indestructible - but again, see ant/steel plate metaphor. Maybe they were so vastly, cosmically powerful the forerunners could not hope to grasp them - but apparently not, seeing as how they kicked the precursors' asses and sent them packing. The Covenant compared to the UNSC, for instance, is a comparable estimate. The Covenant have ships obviously more powerful, shielding technology, more advanced (though not any more practical, mind you - a stone kills as effectively as a bullet, and a bullet kills as effectively as a bolt of plasma) ground weapons, cloaking technology, all that jazz. The forerunners had all that and more, hardlight technology, galaxy-ending super-weapons, sentient AI and self-sustaining machinery, etc. What weapons did the precursors use, aside from the flood? How powerful? How can they kill that one Sith dude? Do they have anything that can match the supernatural bull-blam!-ery of the Force?