-Facepalms- I'd rather prevent the port of Halo 4 to PC than Reach. I actually would have fun with the maps, the maps 343 created are sh** compared to Bungie in comparison. Halo 1,2 and 3 had maps that never actually got boring. Halo 4 had a bland feel after a few hours of gameplay.

i dont see why microsoft wont release halo 4 and 3 and reach on pc they would make so much money probz more than xbox 360 [Edited on 12.17.2012 6:15 AM PST]

Halo 2 3 4 HaloPC anything would be fine if M$ gave it to an outside developer and stayed the hell out of it! I swear to god I can't believe some at M$ is not seeing that Halo PC, eight years after the fact, is still bringing in money. Why do I bother. I need a fluffy kitten to punt across the street.

[url=http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/11/30/microsofts-new-black-tusk-studios-headed-by-ex-ea-devs-looking-to-make-the-next-halo/]Damn. For a moment, reading the title of the news, I though Halo 3 PC was just around the corner.[/url]

I'm not surprised.

heh heh, the kid's still dreaming

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NeverStop91 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wilis_kid I don't think Halo 3 would have been released. The way events happened are like this: Microsoft used Halo 2 as a way of trying to boost sales for Vista and to push its GFWL strategy. However as we all know, Halo 2 Vista was poorly ported, gripped with problems and useless features to enhance gameplay with GFWL like the CD key limit. Add to that trying to charge PC gamers for a service which has always been traditionally free to them with the exception of MMO's and we have a game that PC gamers hate unlike its older brother. As a result of this, M$ have done everything to distance themselves from H2V. They probably think PC gamers don't like Halo because of the poor reception to H2V and probably see no hope for GFWL to even bother trying with Halo 3, let alone Halo 4. It's unlikely we're going to see a Halo title on PC for a while although one can still hope.[/quote] Yeah, you're right. I forgot Halo 2 was an exclusive for Windows Vista. They tried to increase the sales of the new OS with no doubt. But how they thought to be able to give GFWL a push without even releasing Halo 2 Vista in the marketplace? Are they ashamed of it? I agree with you on the fact that Halo 2 wasn't a good porting but do they really care about what people think about it? I think that if a videogame is bought by many people, it doesn't matter if people hate it, they'll make the sequel anyway. Is it because Halo 2 Vista hadn't a great success as Halo 1 with the sales maybe? I don't know how many copies were sold, I am just asking you.[/quote] The game used the GFWL interface and that alone comes with a flock of issues which alot of PC gamers will avoid. The first one as i said was trying to charge for LIVE which put off many gamers and the second big issue is the DRM. Halo 2 could only be installed 5 times before becoming useless, it didn't matter if you had a system reinstall etc and Microsoft didn't care. That and LIVE's unreliability and being prone to crashing causes alot of people to just avoid anything with GFWL on it. As a result, Microsoft hasn't done much if any at all to further GFWL so there really is no reason for gamers who have been put off by the service to come back at the moment compared to say Steam or heck even Origin. As for do Microsoft care about what people think? In terms of Halo 2, they got the money for that although I'm confident that Halo 2 faired very poorly in sales due to all the aforementioned problems. And then even if the game sold well or met M$'s expectations, there's no guarantee it will happen again with Halo 3. People who bought H2V may not have liked it at all (look at the player count in MP at the moment compared to Halo PC) and some may think that Halo 3 will follow a similar path. This alone could see sales be lower than H2V was and Microsoft probably knows it and doesn't want to invest time or money into another port if they can't guarantee it will sell. Halo 2 Vista had the advantage that Halo PC sold well and was received well with PC gamers but Halo 3 wouldn't have had that advantage. We know H2V was poorly ported but we also know Halo can work on PC with Halo 1. For Halo 3 to be successful, Microsoft would have to revamp GFWL, remove all the annoyances associated with it and invest in a good company/team to port it which is something that probably wouldn't be a worthwhile investment. Halo 4 on the other hand, could still work but in my opinion they should start treating PC gamers properly and understand the market better rather than trying to make a quick buck.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wilis_kid I don't think Halo 3 would have been released. The way events happened are like this: Microsoft used Halo 2 as a way of trying to boost sales for Vista and to push its GFWL strategy. However as we all know, Halo 2 Vista was poorly ported, gripped with problems and useless features to enhance gameplay with GFWL like the CD key limit. Add to that trying to charge PC gamers for a service which has always been traditionally free to them with the exception of MMO's and we have a game that PC gamers hate unlike its older brother. As a result of this, M$ have done everything to distance themselves from H2V. They probably think PC gamers don't like Halo because of the poor reception to H2V and probably see no hope for GFWL to even bother trying with Halo 3, let alone Halo 4. It's unlikely we're going to see a Halo title on PC for a while although one can still hope.[/quote] Yeah, you're right. I forgot Halo 2 was an exclusive for Windows Vista. They tried to increase the sales of the new OS with no doubt. But how they thought to be able to give GFWL a push without even releasing Halo 2 Vista in the marketplace? Are they ashamed of it? I agree with you on the fact that Halo 2 wasn't a good porting but do they really care about what people think about it? I think that if a videogame is bought by many people, it doesn't matter if people hate it, they'll make the sequel anyway. Is it because Halo 2 Vista hadn't a great success as Halo 1 with the sales maybe? I don't know how many copies were sold, I am just asking you.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bansheeownz There are so few games in the Halo universe. Ideally, I'd like to see a game in the Halo universe designed specifically with PC in mind, rather then a crappy console port. Hell, Xbox can keep Halo 4 if that could become reality. You can do so much more on a PC and it'd be cool if they did that moving forward. Everything these days is made for consoles and PC just gets the scraps. Ah well, the new generation of consoles is inevitable and who knows the possibilities.[/quote] You think that until you really know where to [url=http://store.steampowered.com/]look[/url].

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NeverStop91 Anyway, do you think that Halo 3 would have been released for PC by now if Halo 4 were a next-gen videogame for the successor of Xbox360? Because if you think a bit about it, Halo 2 was released for PC when Halo 3 was coming out. So, Microsoft's strategy seemed to be to let PC gamers play Halo 2 on PC so that later they had to buy an Xbox360 to complete the trilogy. Therefore, maybe if Halo 4 were a next-gen title, Microsoft would have ported the previous Halo games to make us later buy an Xbox720 (or whatever its name is). [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] smiths01 please re-post in http://bungie.net.off topic: the flood (if the link is not working its because im bad at hyperlinking)[/quote] Done.[/quote] I don't think Halo 3 would have been released. The way events happened are like this: Microsoft used Halo 2 as a way of trying to boost sales for Vista and to push its GFWL strategy. However as we all know, Halo 2 Vista was poorly ported, gripped with problems and useless features to enhance gameplay with GFWL like the CD key limit. Add to that trying to charge PC gamers for a service which has always been traditionally free to them with the exception of MMO's and we have a game that PC gamers hate unlike its older brother. As a result of this, M$ have done everything to distance themselves from H2V. They probably think PC gamers don't like Halo because of the poor reception to H2V and probably see no hope for GFWL to even bother trying with Halo 3, let alone Halo 4. It's unlikely we're going to see a Halo title on PC for a while although one can still hope.

Anyway, do you think that Halo 3 would have been released for PC by now if Halo 4 were a next-gen videogame for the successor of Xbox360? Because if you think a bit about it, Halo 2 was released for PC when Halo 3 was coming out. So, Microsoft's strategy seemed to be to let PC gamers play Halo 2 on PC so that later they had to buy an Xbox360 to complete the trilogy. Therefore, maybe if Halo 4 were a next-gen title, Microsoft would have ported the previous Halo games to make us later buy an Xbox720 (or whatever its name is). [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] smiths01 please re-post in http://bungie.net.off topic: the flood (if the link is not working its because im bad at hyperlinking)[/quote] Done. [Edited on 11.25.2012 2:36 AM PST]

There are so few games in the Halo universe. Ideally, I'd like to see a game in the Halo universe designed specifically with PC in mind, rather then a crappy console port. Hell, Xbox can keep Halo 4 if that could become reality. You can do so much more on a PC and it'd be cool if they did that moving forward. Everything these days is made for consoles and PC just gets the scraps. Ah well, the new generation of consoles is inevitable and who knows the possibilities.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NeverStop91 Why should I re-post this thread in The Flood section, smiths01?[/quote] It's sort of relevant here because it's PC discussion but at the same time, it's not Halo 1 & 2. More importantly, why did he revive an old thread which was at the bottom of the page?

Why should I re-post this thread in The Flood section, smiths01?

please re-post in http://bungie.net.off topic: the flood (if the link is not working its because im bad at hyperlinking)

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] banj0 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Btcc22 Given the delay between the Xbox and PC ports of Halo 1 and 2, it doesn't mean anything much at this stage. Once again though, I doubt we'll see a port and even if we did, they'd do something to spoil it. [quote]The Gearbox-developed port offered a few new multiplayer maps and weapons, and it was promised that players would be able to make and share their own maps. That never happened.[/quote] Could have fooled me.[/quote] Halomaps. [/quote] That was sort of my point.

I wish they made Halo 3 or Reach for PC instead. It would be fun to look at what everyone could do.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Btcc22 Given the delay between the Xbox and PC ports of Halo 1 and 2, it doesn't mean anything much at this stage. Once again though, I doubt we'll see a port and even if we did, they'd do something to spoil it. [quote]The Gearbox-developed port offered a few new multiplayer maps and weapons, and it was promised that players would be able to make and share their own maps. That never happened.[/quote] Could have fooled me.[/quote] Halomaps.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TH3_AV3NG3R It is okay. It isn't that great. It is definitely overrated.[/quote] lol yo, i didn't expect to see you here. o.O

It is okay. It isn't that great. It is definitely overrated.

Ah, you got me there. I was thinking strictly in terms of multiplayer. You're right there. :P

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost That doesn't change the fact that the Needler is pure evil. D:[/quote]It's considered a power weapon now and it's just about as powerful as it was on Halo 3 when it wasn't. People are making the mistake of still considering it to be on the same level as other guns.[/quote]And that's why I hate it. The CE Needler was far more effective with it's longer lasting needles, slower detonation timer, EMP effect, explosion range, and multiple supercombines. It shouldn't be treated as a power weapon in the campaign. Enemies are more unbalanced now that they supercombine with it, it's nearly impossible to dodge, not to mention it ruins the fun on Easy (sure you might not die immediately but you do lose your shield). It's also disappointing how it can kill Grunts before the required amount of needles for supercombine can be achieved. And there's not too much fun using it due to it's instant explosion and lack of explosive force (in CE, AI could be launched really high into the air and you could combine the needler explosions with rockets and grenades). It's more interesting than in Halo 2 and 3 I admit, but it's still not on par with the CE Needler. It lacks versatility. I think the Sticky Detonator and Incineration Cannon easily supersede it. Even the concussion rifle has more uses. [Edited on 11.10.2012 7:07 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost That doesn't change the fact that the Needler is pure evil. D:[/quote]It's considered a power weapon now and it's just about as powerful as it was on Halo 3 when it wasn't. People are making the mistake of still considering it to be on the same level as other guns. [Edited on 11.10.2012 6:39 PM PST]

Halo 4 PC has the same chance of happening as Xbox 360 TF2 getting DLC. :[

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx I'd like to point out that I did some tests earlier on Halo 4. The aim assist is reduced, if anything, from Reach and the hitboxes are [i]definitely[/i] smaller. No idea why you're complaining about that, Raven. :P[/quote]That doesn't change the fact that the Needler is pure evil. D:

I'd like to point out that I did some tests earlier on Halo 4. The aim assist is reduced, if anything, from Reach and the hitboxes are [i]definitely[/i] smaller. No idea why you're complaining about that, Raven. :P