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10/23/2012 4:06:35 PM
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Why a boat is a bad idea for shelter in a zombie apocalypse
1) you're stranded on a body of water
2) you can only take so many people
3) you can only hold so much supplies before you have to return to shore
4) you need an ample supply of gas
5) engine is loud so when you come to shore zombies will hear you
6) you're wide open for an attack by other survivors
7) zombies may not be able to swim, but they can float. You can't stay awake all day to watch for floating zombies
8) you have to conserve your battery, so that mean either making a fire or staying in the dark at night
9) confined spaces
10) if you're in the ocean the current can take you away and if the waves are bad enough it can flip your boat
Discuss bad places to live in a zombie apocalypse
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] oaklandp8ntbalr Bro nuclear powered aircraft carrier is the way to go. You could practically take the fight to the zombies.[/quote] This. Really, zombies would never be able to spread because of the USN, and all the other navies of the world. But especially the USN. Nimitz Carriers and their -blam!-on of fighters and bombers would seriously -blam!-up any zombie horde. Just one napalm per horde and you're done.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rgwfghui [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 to watch for floating zombies[/quote]I don't know why, but this made me laugh.[/quote] it made me laugh to when i thought about it, zombie falls in water, floats to your boat, grabs a hold and climbs up[/quote] you're giving zombie limbs too much credit, If they are traditional zombies (dead) then their muscles would have rotted away and wouldn't be strong enough to haul its own body wight up several feet of boat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MarkFanous Anyone consider a cruise ship? Massive ship stocked with great food, worst comes to comes to u end up fishing. get a cruise or mini cruise ship![/quote] 1) you'll run out of food eventually, either you eat it all or it goes bad 2) takes a lot of fuel to sail 3) hard as hell to sail[/quote] also you're going to run out of food no matter where you are, don't think that just because your shelter is a supermarket you have infinite food or something [Edited on 10.23.2012 12:34 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TGI Skuldier [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] oaklandp8ntbalr But really. Anchor a Nimitz class carrier a few miles off shore. Nuclear reactor = energy for 25+ years.[/quote] That's the part I never got in "I am Legend" He had that one carrier in the harbor. I would have cleared that out and stayed on that. It probably had better radio equipment, would have been more secure, etc.[/quote] Venturing off topic here, but that carrier is the USS Intrepid, a WWII ship turned museum and would not have any functioning equipment. I used to work there. If anything, I think all the dark caverns in the ship would have better suited the vampire-whatever-they-are's more so than a human. However, it would likely be used as an HQ for any military force. The FBI stations themselves there during times of crisis like 9/11 and has since been turned into a Homeland Security hub. [Edited on 10.23.2012 12:31 PM PDT]
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The best zombie shelter would obviously be in the pack of zombies disguised as one of their own. [i]They'll never expect it![/i] As for bad places, any form of shelter, cuz that's where the zombies will be looking for you. [Edited on 10.23.2012 10:58 AM PDT]
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A hospital. Most of the initial wave of zombies will come from hospital staff and patients.
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You sir, no nothing about boating. 1) I think that is the point 2) Obviously 3) Not really. If prepped enough, you can survive on fish and purify water 4) Electric motor + Solar panel 5) Trolling motor 6) You are still able to hide in coves or shade 7) Really? Living humans can't even float... 8) Alot of boating tech is solar powered, including lights. 10) Lakes
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MarkFanous Anyone consider a cruise ship? Massive ship stocked with great food, worst comes to comes to u end up fishing. get a cruise or mini cruise ship![/quote] 1) you'll run out of food eventually, either you eat it all or it goes bad 2) takes a lot of fuel to sail 3) hard as hell to sail[/quote] Do what the folks at rivet city did. Pull boat a wee bit off the docks. Build some retractable bridges, and you are set. You've got yourself a nice fortress.
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Well, I live in Atlantis, so . . . . I'm good.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XxMuNcHmOnKeYxX Zombies are stupid, incompetent and can't reason, not to mention they don't have functioning metabolisms. The only thing they might have is a sense of impaired touch. There hearing would be botched, if anything and wouldn't be able to associate a running boat motor with a human due to lack of wits or comprehension. And zombies will either sink due to inability to keep buoyancy because of the flooding of their non-circulating bodies with salt water or get fed off of by other animals in the ocean, including gull, sharks, etc.[/quote] So the real threat here is zombie sharks and birds then. I think we'll need a bigger boat and a tough cabin to prevent those nasty zombie birds from getting in.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MarkFanous Anyone consider a cruise ship? Massive ship stocked with great food, worst comes to comes to u end up fishing. get a cruise or mini cruise ship![/quote] 1) you'll run out of food eventually, either you eat it all or it goes bad 2) takes a lot of fuel to sail 3) hard as hell to sail
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Unless you have a cruise ship, using a boat can be kind of a pain, mainly because you will have to go back to the shore more frequently because you can't store as much supplies on board. Also, after the panic, pirates will be raiding each other and any ships they find etc, so you have to stay low for a while but also have weapons on board to deal with them. Beyond that, a ship is a great thing to use.
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Acquire a large number of treadmills Arrange them in a circle around you Zombies trying to get in are pushed back out Use the motion of the treadmills to work a generator, thus powering the treadmills Problem?
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Anyone consider a cruise ship? Massive ship stocked with great food, worst comes to comes to u end up fishing. get a cruise or mini cruise ship!
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Fishing rod, with a sail boat and anchor, and extra batteries and a disalinatizer (the thing that purifies salt water and removes the salt)
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Best place to survive: Richard Branson Island
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A boat would be the best place in a zombie apocalypse. Why do you think Kenny wanted to get one so bad?
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Sailboat master race!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Baph117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 1) you're stranded on a body of water[/quote]Being on a working boat is the opposite of stranded. [quote]2) you can only take so many people[/quote]Small groups are better groups. [quote]3) you can only hold so much supplies before you have to return to shore[/quote]Just stockpile supplies close to shore. [quote]4) you need an ample supply of gas[/quote]Sail boats. Also, you don't need it to actually function, just anchor up in some harbor. [quote]5) engine is loud so when you come to shore zombies will hear you[/quote]Sails. Row boats. [quote]6) you're wide open for an attack by other survivors[/quote]Not really. [quote]7) zombies may not be able to swim, but they can float. You can't stay awake all day to watch for floating zombies[/quote]Yeah, that's not a threat. [quote]8) you have to conserve your battery, so that mean either making a fire or staying in the dark at night[/quote]And? [quote]9) confined spaces[/quote]No zombies. [quote]10) if you're in the ocean the current can take you away and if the waves are bad enough it can flip your boat[/quote]Anchors.[/quote] hahahaha wutta boss
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Implying I'm on a small boat. OP, I'd have a [i]cruise[/i] boat.
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A large sail ship could work, and as for supplies the only thing you'de have to stockpile is fresh water (which can also come from rain) unless the fish are infected in which case you're screwed.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xGHOST270x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TGI Skuldier [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] oaklandp8ntbalr But really. Anchor a Nimitz class carrier a few miles off shore. Nuclear reactor = energy for 25+ years.[/quote] That's the part I never got in "I am Legend" He had that one carrier in the harbor. I would have cleared that out and stayed on that. It probably had better radio equipment, would have been more secure, etc.[/quote] This. A boat like that would be the ultimate shelter, at least at night for safety purposes. Not really mobile, as most laypeople wouldn't know how to start or move the vessel.[/quote] Just to ask the obvious question... How do you drive an Aircraft Carrier? Do either of you know?[/quote] Nope, but who says you have to move it? If you can great, I would just turn it into a floating fortress. It appeared to already be a reasonable distance from shore. I also wouldn't have been surprised if he couldn't have found some better armaments on board. Radio equipment could have been scavenged (now that I think about it, that's probably where he got the radio to begin with.) Corridors inside the craft itself would seem to be more secure than his home-built security system. Also would make for a more secure lab. There were probably supplies on board as well. He had some military background in the movie, not necessarily the right branch, but he was there for how long? Would have been an interesting thing to read up on in his spare time. The only problems I would see are making sure its not infested, clearing it out, and as one person said maintenance and not having it sink on you.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xGHOST270x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TGI Skuldier [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] oaklandp8ntbalr But really. Anchor a Nimitz class carrier a few miles off shore. Nuclear reactor = energy for 25+ years.[/quote] That's the part I never got in "I am Legend" He had that one carrier in the harbor. I would have cleared that out and stayed on that. It probably had better radio equipment, would have been more secure, etc.[/quote] This. A boat like that would be the ultimate shelter, at least at night for safety purposes. Not really mobile, as most laypeople wouldn't know how to start or move the vessel.[/quote] Just to ask the obvious question... How do you drive a Aircraft Carrier? Do wither of you know?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TGI Skuldier [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] oaklandp8ntbalr But really. Anchor a Nimitz class carrier a few miles off shore. Nuclear reactor = energy for 25+ years.[/quote] That's the part I never got in "I am Legend" He had that one carrier in the harbor. I would have cleared that out and stayed on that. It probably had better radio equipment, would have been more secure, etc.[/quote] This. A boat like that would be the ultimate shelter, at least at night for safety purposes. Not really mobile, as most laypeople wouldn't know how to start or move the vessel.
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[quote] Lets look at this logically. [/quote] ok lets [quote] Lets say its a year into the zombie apoc. All tech is useless, if gas still existed, its bad most likely. So im on a sail boat, small fast and maneuverable. For another to catch me and my group, they would need a sail boat of smaller or equal size and quicker than mine. Next they would need a larger better armed group. Which would be unlikely. [/quote] True, but for another group to catch you doesn't mean they have to get on a boat and chase you, it could mean that they shoot at you from the coast or try to board your boat at night when you least expect it. Plus if you are in a lake you only have so many places to escape till they find you. [qoute] The most vulnerable would be when we would do land raids, but this would be a group of 1yr+ survivors, so they would be hardened for the task. Ports would be likely places to search, and conflict would be expected from other groups. [/qoute] I agree, but wouldn't people have already took the supplies from ports already? remember it is an apocalypse so people are going to look for supplies. Chances are that you won't be the only group there or the supplies are already gone, either by scavengers, the military or it's gone bad. [qoute] As far as a boat being the worst, the only i could imagine, is maintenance of the hull, since it is a niche skill as is, but that's easily remedied by just finding more sail boats to snatch up. [/quote] You would have to stay close to the shore if that happens though, and if you're in open water you'll have to find something fast to fix it... duct tape? [quote] If i knew how to sail, or had a member that did, i would gather supplies, and locate a boat asap, find a with buildings, no bridge, and it, and set up a base, and from there to raid the mainland. [/quote] Not everyone will know how to sail, that's why i think people will go for the ones with motors because they're easier to use [quote] But then again, no where is safe, only safer. [/quote] agreed on that. You bring up good points. But for me i would like to have some open ground to run on, if something goes wrong ill have to swim to shore or drown with the boat. IMO there are too many risks with a boat Edit: i have no idea what's going on with this hopefully you can understand it [Edited on 10.23.2012 9:08 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 1) you're stranded on a body of water[/quote] Thats a problem how? [quote]2) you can only take so many people[/quote] Thats alright, I hate half of humanity anyway. [quote]3) you can only hold so much supplies before you have to return to shore[/quote] ... Problem how? That would be the same with any zombie shelter. [quote]4) you need an ample supply of gas[/quote] Not if I steal a nuclear powered nimitz class us aircraft carrier complete with the crew needed to run it. [quote]5) engine is loud so when you come to shore zombies will hear you[/quote] Not if I use a smaller boat attached to a big boat, and or drift in. [quote]6) you're wide open for an attack by other survivors[/quote] I'm an an aircraft carrier, they can try, but they won't succeed. [quote]7) zombies may not be able to swim, but they can float. You can't stay awake all day to watch for floating zombies[/quote] Good luck climbing up the side of an aircraft carrier, or even floating far enough to find it. [quote]8) you have to conserve your battery, so that mean either making a fire or staying in the dark at night[/quote] Irrelivant on an aircraft carrier. [quote]9) confined spaces[/quote] I can live with that. [quote]10) if you're in the ocean the current can take you away and if the waves are bad enough it can flip your boat[/quote] good luck flipping and aircraft carrier. [quote]Discuss bad places to live in a zombie apocalypse [/quote]... I'll just give good places. -Artic, zombies will likely freeze, and the virus won't survive in the cold. -Antartic, same as artic. -Island, find deserted island with resources, attempt to survive (maybe not the best place) -Nimitz class supercarrier complete with crew and resources.
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Idk, what about a aircraft carrier, with that you could grow veggies on the deck.
