BR = M16 DMR = FAL Sniper = 50 cal. m90 = any pump-action 8 gauge AR = P90/F2000 You know what? Screw it all. Minus not having Sportans, we would do just fine. Unless modern military are just as hurr-derr as Halo ally AI...

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gibsonsg527 It would be a bold bath. [/quote] [b]Indubitably bold.[/b]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gibsonsg527 It would be a bold bath. [/quote] Yes, a bold bath indeed.

It would be a bold bath.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeclinedA1 They'd be screwed.[/quote] Indeed. Covenant can be defeated with our type of weapons and not to mention that our Marines arent morons unlike the UNSC. [Edited on 10.15.2012 9:12 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rainbow A Dash [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo If the Infantry was equipped with IFV's, M114 Humvees, and Artillery support, I'd say a Battalion of modern day Marines could defeat the Covenant equivalent. I think mostly due to the fact that the covenant have very -blam!- IFVs and transport vehicles. Barring the Phantom in Halo 2 and the spirit and Halo 1, their vehicles are very exposed.[/quote] I'm sorry to inform you but the Marine's infantry isn't that amazing. They are taught to just follow orders and their tactics are to just throw wave after wave of grunts until they overtake an objective. That might be just pure ignorance because that was coming from my cadre in training, but they were pretty serious about it.[/quote] I say Marines because they are our principle assault force. No offense, but from what I can see from differing regular Army and Marine tactics, Marines are more offensively minded than the Army, the Army seems more like a sword rather than a sledge hammer and an occupying force.[/quote] Like I said, the Army is more about outsmarting the enemy. Also, what tactics have you been studying up on?[/quote]If I may Colby, I rather agree with him. Whereas the Army seems a sword to cut down the enemy at the joints and with the wisdom to do so, the Marines definitely seem like a weighted blunt object tossed forward with great force. Maybe I could message you if I have questions when I get the chance to talk to my Army recruiter again? Also, I'm off for the night. It has been a good conversation. I look forward to more.[/quote] Go for it, I'll try to help you the best I can.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo If the Infantry was equipped with IFV's, M114 Humvees, and Artillery support, I'd say a Battalion of modern day Marines could defeat the Covenant equivalent. I think mostly due to the fact that the covenant have very -blam!- IFVs and transport vehicles. Barring the Phantom in Halo 2 and the spirit and Halo 1, their vehicles are very exposed.[/quote] I'm sorry to inform you but the Marine's infantry isn't that amazing. They are taught to just follow orders and their tactics are to just throw wave after wave of grunts until they overtake an objective. That might be just pure ignorance because that was coming from my cadre in training, but they were pretty serious about it.[/quote] I say Marines because they are our principle assault force. No offense, but from what I can see from differing regular Army and Marine tactics, Marines are more offensively minded than the Army, the Army seems more like a sword rather than a sledge hammer and an occupying force.[/quote] Like I said, the Army is more about outsmarting the enemy. Also, what tactics have you been studying up on?[/quote]If I may Colby, I rather agree with him. Whereas the Army seems a sword to cut down the enemy at the joints and with the wisdom to do so, the Marines definitely seem like a weighted blunt object tossed forward with great force. Maybe I could message you if I have questions when I get the chance to talk to my Army recruiter again? Also, I'm off for the night. It has been a good conversation. I look forward to more. [Edited on 10.15.2012 8:51 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo If the Infantry was equipped with IFV's, M114 Humvees, and Artillery support, I'd say a Battalion of modern day Marines could defeat the Covenant equivalent. I think mostly due to the fact that the covenant have very -blam!- IFVs and transport vehicles. Barring the Phantom in Halo 2 and the spirit and Halo 1, their vehicles are very exposed.[/quote] I'm sorry to inform you but the Marine's infantry isn't that amazing. They are taught to just follow orders and their tactics are to just throw wave after wave of grunts until they overtake an objective. That might be just pure ignorance because that was coming from my cadre in training, but they were pretty serious about it.[/quote] I say Marines because they are our principle assault force. No offense, but from what I can see from differing regular Army and Marine tactics, Marines are more offensively minded than the Army, the Army seems more like a sword rather than a sledge hammer and an occupying force.[/quote] Like I said, the Army is more about outsmarting the enemy. Also, what tactics have you been studying up on?[/quote] Not really studying tactics because of school, but from what I can read in Books like, War as I see it, just how Patton describes the attacks and how he formulates them makes the Army seem more eloquent. From what I can observe from how Marines tactics are described in books, they just hammer at the enemy until their shield breaks, they are two very different kinds of fighting forces. I like how this turned into a straight up Military thread. [Edited on 10.15.2012 8:51 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace I think the scorpion is loosely based on [url=http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/attachments/multimedia-jukebox-room/6473d1168453210-identify-military-equipment-quizz2.jpg]this[/url] a long with several other expirements,[/quote]That's pretty cool.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 The thing that our cadre said was ," We are taught to outsmart the enemy, the Marine corps is taught to overpower the enemy". [/quote]Bwaha! That is so true! [Edited on 10.15.2012 8:48 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo If the Infantry was equipped with IFV's, M114 Humvees, and Artillery support, I'd say a Battalion of modern day Marines could defeat the Covenant equivalent. I think mostly due to the fact that the covenant have very -blam!- IFVs and transport vehicles. Barring the Phantom in Halo 2 and the spirit and Halo 1, their vehicles are very exposed.[/quote] I'm sorry to inform you but the Marine's infantry isn't that amazing. They are taught to just follow orders and their tactics are to just throw wave after wave of grunts until they overtake an objective. That might be just pure ignorance because that was coming from my cadre in training, but they were pretty serious about it.[/quote] I say Marines because they are our principle assault force. No offense, but from what I can see from differing regular Army and Marine tactics, Marines are more offensively minded than the Army, the Army seems more like a sword rather than a sledge hammer and an occupying force.[/quote] Like I said, the Army is more about outsmarting the enemy. Also, what tactics have you been studying up on? [Edited on 10.15.2012 8:45 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo If the Infantry was equipped with IFV's, M114 Humvees, and Artillery support, I'd say a Battalion of modern day Marines could defeat the Covenant equivalent. I think mostly due to the fact that the covenant have very -blam!- IFVs and transport vehicles. Barring the Phantom in Halo 2 and the spirit and Halo 1, their vehicles are very exposed.[/quote] I'm sorry to inform you but the Marine's infantry isn't that amazing. They are taught to just follow orders and their tactics are to just throw wave after wave of grunts until they overtake an objective. That might be just pure ignorance because that was coming from my cadre in training, but they were pretty serious about it.[/quote] I say Marines because they are our principle assault force. No offense, but from what I can see from differing regular Army and Marine tactics, Marines are more offensively minded than the Army, the Army seems more like a sword rather than a sledge hammer and an occupying force. More elegant, more precise, but the Marines are far more devastating. [Edited on 10.15.2012 8:45 PM PDT]

I think the scorpion is loosely based on [url=http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/attachments/multimedia-jukebox-room/6473d1168453210-identify-military-equipment-quizz2.jpg]this[/url] a long with several other expirements,

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rainbow A Dash [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo If the Infantry was equipped with IFV's, M114 Humvees, and Artillery support, I'd say a Battalion of modern day Marines could defeat the Covenant equivalent. I think mostly due to the fact that the covenant have very -blam!- IFVs and transport vehicles. Barring the Phantom in Halo 2 and the spirit and Halo 1, their vehicles are very exposed.[/quote] I'm sorry to inform you but the Marine's infantry isn't that amazing. They are taught to just follow orders and their tactics are to just throw wave after wave of grunts until they overtake an objective. That might be just pure ignorance because that was coming from my cadre in training, but they were pretty serious about it.[/quote]He had that confused. The Marine Corps infantryman goes through the same training as the Army Rangers, with the exception being the Marines are not jump qualified. Marine Basic is 13 weeks and they don't go home on holidays. Every Marine (even accountants) are trained as a basic rifleman first and their MOS later. You could replace any rifleman with any accountant, repairman, water-science guy, and have just as an effective fighting force. Once they are done with their brutal 3 month basic they go to their MOS school and for infantryman I believe that's another 8 weeks of training (if I remember correctly). They don't throw wave after wave at the enemy, they are tenacious. The same group of marines push and push and push and push until they achieve their objective or physically can't push anymore. They are trained to keep going when the enemy doesn't. Don't run away and just push. Close in, seize, destroy. In Vietnam the Siege of Khe San was (if I remember correctly) 40,000+ Vietnamese against 5,000 Marines and the Marines won. They've proven time and time again they can do nearly anything they please effectively on the battlefield with the crappiest equipment, and get it done fast. But that's what they are trained to do. My brother's best friend hiked the reaper (9 mile hike through a valley) with a 120lbs pack and 2 MREs after 3 days with 2 hours sleep on a fractured foot and torn ligaments in his knee. Why? Because that's what he was told to do. There is an attempted suicide every two weeks in Marine Corps basic training. Infantry school is even more physically demanding with longer hikes (20k under I believe the same 120lbs), longer runs, etc. Tenacity. My brother pulled a 96+ hour shift a couple times and almost died once doing it. He awoke in a hospital bed dazed asking where his rifle was. That's how the Marines are trained. Then again they go through training not being taught, but broken. You don't get taught like a mentor sort of state until you earn the title Marine. Until then you are less than the dog crap on their boots and they make that known through physical and mental "abuse" until you are broken. Then they "rebuild you into a Marine" as they love to advertise. They got a bad rap because criminals use to get offered either jail time or military and they chose military, so they got put into the Marines. They've sort of "earned" a bad reputation and high ego. There is also a lot of "hazing" in infantry and security MOS. (12 guys vs 4 until you can't get up, beating your legs black and blue with metal pipes, standing naked in the rain saluting for dozens of hours in 40 degree temps, etc. The Marine Corps structure wants it to stop but many times they don't know when or where its going on until its too late. That's the bad part of their mentality. That brotherhood crap stops after basic, until you hit the battlefield.) Don't you ever start believing that perpetual "one branch is better than the other" crap you may get fed in your time in the military. Don't become the initiator.[/quote] Oh, I'm not. I clearly said that was probably ignorance, haha. The thing about comparing the length of training , army vs. Marines, is that in the army they have OSUT training. OSUT training is 16 weeks long (total) , your AIT begins the day you get downrange, unlike a non-combat role MOS recruit. At fort Benning, you begin learning about combat from day one. The thing that our cadre said was ," We are taught to outsmart the enemy, the Marine corps is taught to overpower the enemy".

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SpecOps0 Well, I agree the scropion doesnt have the best weapon... The scropion can go as fast, or even faster than the warthog. And plus it has four threads. Thus if one is disabled, it has 3 more preventing a mobility kill. In-game stuff doesnt count. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace There are three key factors in tank development: Armament Mobility Protection The scorpion pretty much throws the first two out the window.[/quote][/quote] I honestly don't know about the speed, though that Reach cutscene does seem to indicate a pretty high one, people always start fighting with me when I mention that.[/quote] Please, the Abrams is an MBT with a heavier cannon and a higher variety of rounds and can move at 70 miles an hour on flat terrain.[/quote] No it can't.

* ^^^ 42mph Any faster and the treads may tear apart. [Edited on 10.15.2012 8:54 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SpecOps0 Well, I agree the scropion doesnt have the best weapon... The scropion can go as fast, or even faster than the warthog. And plus it has four threads. Thus if one is disabled, it has 3 more preventing a mobility kill. In-game stuff doesnt count. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace There are three key factors in tank development: Armament Mobility Protection The scorpion pretty much throws the first two out the window.[/quote][/quote] I honestly don't know about the speed, though that Reach cutscene does seem to indicate a pretty high one, people always start fighting with me when I mention that.[/quote] Please, the Abrams is an MBT with a heavier cannon and a higher variety of rounds and can move at 70 miles an hour on flat terrain.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ErranInfigo If the Infantry was equipped with IFV's, M114 Humvees, and Artillery support, I'd say a Battalion of modern day Marines could defeat the Covenant equivalent. I think mostly due to the fact that the covenant have very -blam!- IFVs and transport vehicles. Barring the Phantom in Halo 2 and the spirit and Halo 1, their vehicles are very exposed.[/quote] I'm sorry to inform you but the Marine's infantry isn't that amazing. They are taught to just follow orders and their tactics are to just throw wave after wave of grunts until they overtake an objective. That might be just pure ignorance because that was coming from my cadre in training, but they were pretty serious about it.[/quote]He had that confused. The Marine Corps infantryman goes through the same training as the Army Rangers (in their infantry school after basic), with the exception being the Marines are not jump qualified. Marine Basic is 13 weeks and they don't go home on holidays. Every Marine (even accountants) are trained as a basic rifleman first and their MOS later. You could replace any rifleman with any accountant, repairman, water-science guy, and have just as an effective fighting force. Once they are done with their brutal 3 month basic they go to their MOS school and for infantryman I believe that's another 8 weeks of training (if I remember correctly). They don't throw wave after wave at the enemy, they are tenacious. The same group of marines push and push and push and push until they achieve their objective or physically can't push anymore. They are trained to keep going when the enemy doesn't. Don't run away and just push. Close in, seize, destroy. In Vietnam the Siege of Khe San was (if I remember correctly) 40,000+ Vietnamese against 5,000 Marines and the Marines won. They've proven time and time again they can do nearly anything they please effectively on the battlefield with the crappiest equipment, and get it done fast. But that's what they are trained to do. My brother's best friend hiked the reaper (9 mile hike through a valley) with a 120lbs pack and 2 MREs after 3 days with 2 hours sleep on a fractured foot and torn ligaments in his knee. Why? Because that's what he was told to do. There is an attempted suicide every two weeks in Marine Corps basic training. Infantry school is even more physically demanding with longer hikes (20k under I believe the same 120lbs), longer runs, etc. Tenacity. My brother pulled a 96+ hour shift a couple times and almost died once doing it. He awoke in a hospital bed dazed asking where his rifle was. That's how the Marines are trained. Then again they go through training not being taught, but broken. You don't get taught like a mentor sort of state until you earn the title Marine. Until then you are less than the dog crap on their boots and they make that known through physical and mental "abuse" until you are broken. Then they "rebuild you into a Marine" as they love to advertise. They got a bad rap because criminals use to get offered either jail time or military and they chose military, so they got put into the Marines. They've sort of "earned" a bad reputation and high ego. There is also a lot of "hazing" in infantry and security MOS. (12 guys vs 4 until you can't get up, beating your legs black and blue with metal pipes, standing naked in the rain saluting for dozens of hours in 40 degree temps, etc. The Marine Corps structure wants it to stop but many times they don't know when or where its going on until its too late. That's the bad part of their mentality. That brotherhood crap stops after basic, until you hit the battlefield.) Don't you ever start believing that perpetual "one branch is better than the other" crap you may get fed in your time in the military. Don't become the initiator. I personally believe whoever told you that was wrong, but then again since my life is so enveloped in the Marines I can only tell you from a biased perspective. [Edited on 10.15.2012 8:42 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SpecOps0 Well, I agree the scropion doesnt have the best weapon... The scropion can go as fast, or even faster than the warthog. And plus it has four threads. Thus if one is disabled, it has 3 more preventing a mobility kill. In-game stuff doesnt count. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace There are three key factors in tank development: Armament Mobility Protection The scorpion pretty much throws the first two out the window.[/quote][/quote] I honestly don't know about the speed, though that Reach cutscene does seem to indicate a pretty high one, people always start fighting with me when I mention that.[/quote] It can be fast, but it's profile is simply retarded and is too hard to move. Great at going in once direction. A -blam!- to turn.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PISTOLSQUIRREL If the UNSC gets assraped a lot of the time, we'd be double -blam!-'d[/quote] buuut derrr gameplslkidhfgjlikusayyyyy techhhh goooto woorrsee 500 years in the future!!!![/quote] No offense Bungie, but you -blam!- up when it comes to FT tech. We're already researching lasers. I really think they should have hired a futurist, because [i]five hundred years in the future[/i]? I'd bet by then [i]we'd[/i] be the covenant, especially given the fact that the singularity will likely occur in 2045, turning us into cyborgs that could knock the fangs out of an elite with an uppercut. The idea that we'll be using the same old guns is insane. -blam!-, we might even have bullets sealed in a vacuum that contain antihydrogen, which would decimate virtually anything and bathe all forces by the target in gamma rays. It's one thing to suspect that in 1900's, everyone would be using jetpacks. But could they even conceive of a particle accelerator in 1901? -blam!-, they'd believe us to be ungodly demons for cloning animals for lulz and turning the fur of cats glow in the dark with genetic modification. A man just broke the speed of sound, [i]by falling[/i]. The technology of computers is increasing at a constant exponential rate. This rate of advancement will simply continue to increase until, who knows what? We ascend to virtual godhood within a few thousand years?[/quote] I kinda wish they'd set halo in like 2245, then it would have made a lot more sense.... The worst part is the inconsistency, guass rifles but still NATO cartridges? wut?[/quote] Yeah, that would have made more sense. The only advanced stuff is the FTL, which I think we'll have within 500 years, but not a stellar empire. Maybe a couple planets. Y'know, because there's just so many earthlike planets nearby >.> This is why Tyson should be used as a consultant for all Sci Fi games set in the far off future.[/quote] Well they do have artificial gravity, and engines that run off water, but besides that and the MAC tech it's pretty bad.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SpecOps0 Well, I agree the scropion doesnt have the best weapon... The scropion can go as fast, or even faster than the warthog. And plus it has four threads. Thus if one is disabled, it has 3 more preventing a mobility kill. In-game stuff doesnt count. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace There are three key factors in tank development: Armament Mobility Protection The scorpion pretty much throws the first two out the window.[/quote][/quote] I honestly don't know about the speed, though that Reach cutscene does seem to indicate a pretty high one, people always start fighting with me when I mention that.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PISTOLSQUIRREL If the UNSC gets assraped a lot of the time, we'd be double -blam!-'d[/quote] buuut derrr gameplslkidhfgjlikusayyyyy techhhh goooto woorrsee 500 years in the future!!!![/quote] No offense Bungie, but you -blam!- up when it comes to FT tech. We're already researching lasers. I really think they should have hired a futurist, because [i]five hundred years in the future[/i]? I'd bet by then [i]we'd[/i] be the covenant, especially given the fact that the singularity will likely occur in 2045, turning us into cyborgs that could knock the fangs out of an elite with an uppercut. The idea that we'll be using the same old guns is insane. -blam!-, we might even have bullets sealed in a vacuum that contain antihydrogen, which would decimate virtually anything and bathe all forces by the target in gamma rays. It's one thing to suspect that in 1900's, everyone would be using jetpacks. But could they even conceive of a particle accelerator in 1901? -blam!-, they'd believe us to be ungodly demons for cloning animals for lulz and turning the fur of cats glow in the dark with genetic modification. A man just broke the speed of sound, [i]by falling[/i]. The technology of computers is increasing at a constant exponential rate. This rate of advancement will simply continue to increase until, who knows what? We ascend to virtual godhood within a few thousand years?[/quote] I kinda wish they'd set halo in like 2245, then it would have made a lot more sense.... The worst part is the inconsistency, guass rifles but still NATO cartridges? wut?[/quote] Yeah, that would have made more sense. The only advanced stuff is the FTL, which I think we'll have within 500 years, but not a stellar empire. Maybe a couple planets. Y'know, because there's just so many earthlike planets nearby >.> This is why Tyson should be used as a consultant for all Sci Fi games set in the far off future.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UnfitFatbill [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PISTOLSQUIRREL If the UNSC gets assraped a lot of the time, we'd be double -blam!-'d[/quote] buuut derrr gameplslkidhfgjlikusayyyyy techhhh goooto woorrsee 500 years in the future!!!![/quote] No offense Bungie, but you -blam!- up when it comes to FT tech. We're already researching lasers. I really think they should have hired a futurist, because [i]five hundred years in the future[/i]? I'd bet by then [i]we'd[/i] be the covenant, especially given the fact that the singularity will likely occur in 2045, turning us into cyborgs that could knock the fangs out of an elite with an uppercut. The idea that we'll be using the same old guns is insane. -blam!-, we might even have bullets sealed in a vacuum that contain antihydrogen, which would decimate virtually anything and bathe all forces by the target in gamma rays. It's one thing to suspect that in 1900's, everyone would be using jetpacks. But could they even conceive of a particle accelerator in 1901? -blam!-, they'd believe us to be ungodly demons for cloning animals for lulz and turning the fur of cats glow in the dark with genetic modification. A man just broke the speed of sound, [i]by falling[/i]. The technology of computers is increasing at a constant exponential rate. This rate of advancement will simply continue to increase until, who knows what? We ascend to virtual godhood within a few thousand years?[/quote] Calm down darling, they're just taking a different approach to what the 'future' may be..... Who knows... maybe the human race will just sit on their asses for a good 1-200 years. [/quote] Unlikely. I just wish Bungie either reduced the age of the human empire, or simply had us using railguns as standard weapons. Which is more realistic prediction of that time.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PISTOLSQUIRREL If the UNSC gets assraped a lot of the time, we'd be double -blam!-'d[/quote] buuut derrr gameplslkidhfgjlikusayyyyy techhhh goooto woorrsee 500 years in the future!!!![/quote] No offense Bungie, but you -blam!- up when it comes to FT tech. We're already researching lasers. I really think they should have hired a futurist, because [i]five hundred years in the future[/i]? I'd bet by then [i]we'd[/i] be the covenant, especially given the fact that the singularity will likely occur in 2045, turning us into cyborgs that could knock the fangs out of an elite with an uppercut. The idea that we'll be using the same old guns is insane. -blam!-, we might even have bullets sealed in a vacuum that contain antihydrogen, which would decimate virtually anything and bathe all forces by the target in gamma rays. It's one thing to suspect that in 1900's, everyone would be using jetpacks. But could they even conceive of a particle accelerator in 1901? -blam!-, they'd believe us to be ungodly demons for cloning animals for lulz and turning the fur of cats glow in the dark with genetic modification. A man just broke the speed of sound, [i]by falling[/i]. The technology of computers is increasing at a constant exponential rate. This rate of advancement will simply continue to increase until, who knows what? We ascend to virtual godhood within a few thousand years?[/quote] I kinda wish they'd set halo in like 2245, then it would have made a lot more sense.... The worst part is the inconsistency, guass rifles but still NATO cartridges? wut?

Humanity did go through a rough patch that slowed development.

Well, I agree the scropion doesnt have the best weapon... The scropion can go as fast, or even faster than the warthog. And plus it has four threads. Thus if one is disabled, it has 3 more preventing a mobility kill. In-game stuff doesnt count. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace There are three key factors in tank development: Armament Mobility Protection The scorpion pretty much throws the first two out the window.[/quote]