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10/3/2012 2:40:46 PM
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Halo 4 is Halo Reach (rant)
If you hated/dislsiked Halo Reach, what the hell is going to make you like Halo 4? Halo 4 basically has everything bad that Halo Reach has and more.
Armor abilities [i]again[/i]? instant, but -blam!- and useless camp promoting camouflage? X-RAY vision? WTF? May as well just tear down all the walls in every map. And the only thing a jetpack does for you is gets you killed faster. In stead of being in view of 1 player, let the whole team see you: great!
Well if you guys enjoy sprinting on command, whatever.
SO much focus on the little dumb things nowadays. Infection gametypes is like the new MLG; there is so much emphasis on this [i]sideshow[/i]. Don't we want quality arena competitive slayer? Don't we want games where map control and team work are essential factors in matches? I swear since the release of Reach everything's been a one man show, encouraging people to give others the middle finger when asked to play cooperatively. Oh and sprint is one of the factors contributing to that.
Again, this game is (like Reach) always focusing on how to boost your ego. Reach wanted to make you feel special with all of your little perks and armor abilities to help you play "the way you want." Not to mention all of the emphasis on cool shiny customizeable armors. It's been catering to kids, I swear. Halo 2 had it perfectly fine with just being able to change colors and species. Halo 3 had a limited set which was alright; back then Bungie didn't need to focus so much on trivial things like different visuals to keep their community entertained. [i]*cough competitive play cough*[/i]
And can someone tell me where in the hell the flood is coming from? Clearly I missed something because last I heard Cortana told us the flood was wiped out. Not to mention they look completely retarded now.
/endrant
for now
Edit: [b]A lot of people seem to defend armor abilities in that if they had been implemented differently, and/or had tweaks to them, they would have been a much more positive addition to the series' multiplayer aspect. I'd like an idea of these "changes" people keep refuting. [i]Convince the skeptics![/i][/b]
[Edited on 10.09.2012 5:48 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrMassakka And please stop acting as if you fanboys are in the total minority, surrounded by haters. It's the other way.[/quote][/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M]>>[/url] [Edited on 10.05.2012 5:06 PM PDT]
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[quote] Well as it would seem it would be a waste of time for us to argue, I will just say what I been saying since Halo 4 was announced. Play the game before you say its bad, the changes on paper and in the reality within the game can be quite different than expected.[/quote] I totally understand but being skeptical at this point is merited. In the eyes of someone who dislikes Reach, of course. [Edited on 10.05.2012 5:03 PM PDT]
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While I can see where you're coming from, the game isn't even out yet. Why put emphasis on your current analysis to such a high degree?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yutaka XxX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 If you hated/dislsiked Halo Reach, what the hell is going to make you like Halo 4? Halo 4 basically has everything bad that Halo Reach has and more.[/quote] I didn't hate Reach because it changed. I hated Reach because the change was poorly designed, contradictory, and ultimately led to a frustrating and punishing experience. If Halo 4 does what Reach tried to do better, then I will enjoy it. [/quote] Yeah same. They tried something new and it sucked. A few other games come to mind. I support the "1.5" type of sequels if you know what I mean, as long as there's enough new cohesive material.[/quote] Hold on a second, I didn't realize it was November 6 and that you had played the game. Have you really played the game? And a better question is why do make such biased accusations when, even though the game is gold, its not out yet? Besides its seems that 343i have actually taken the time to balance out the game more than Reach. [/quote] This was describing Halo Reach, not Halo 4. But my argument sure is the assumption that Halo 4 will resemble Halo Reach in multiple facets considering examples given in the OP. [/quote] Well as it would seem it would be a waste of time for us to argue, I will just say what I been saying since Halo 4 was announced. Play the game before you say its bad, the changes on paper and in the reality within the game can be quite different than expected.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Banned Yet Again No it isn't [/quote] That counterargument is flawless. Truly superb. /sarcasm OT:I agree, and i'm not just saying that because it makes people's bottoms ache.
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No it isn't
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How to settle this debate: You are all massive idiots for not realizing the other side has different opinions than you. You should feel terrible for being so foolish and should stop replying.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yutaka XxX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 If you hated/dislsiked Halo Reach, what the hell is going to make you like Halo 4? Halo 4 basically has everything bad that Halo Reach has and more.[/quote] I didn't hate Reach because it changed. I hated Reach because the change was poorly designed, contradictory, and ultimately led to a frustrating and punishing experience. If Halo 4 does what Reach tried to do better, then I will enjoy it. [/quote] Yeah same. They tried something new and it sucked. A few other games come to mind. I support the "1.5" type of sequels if you know what I mean, as long as there's enough new cohesive material.[/quote] Hold on a second, I didn't realize it was November 6 and that you had played the game. Have you really played the game? And a better question is why do make such biased accusations when, even though the game is gold, its not out yet? Besides its seems that 343i have actually taken the time to balance out the game more than Reach. [/quote] This was describing Halo Reach, not Halo 4. But my argument sure is the assumption that Halo 4 will resemble Halo Reach in multiple facets considering examples given in the OP.
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ITT: Butthurt nostalgic wannabe MLG 1337 BR 4v4 Bungie fanboys
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 If you hated/dislsiked Halo Reach, what the hell is going to make you like Halo 4? Halo 4 basically has everything bad that Halo Reach has and more.[/quote] I didn't hate Reach because it changed. I hated Reach because the change was poorly designed, contradictory, and ultimately led to a frustrating and punishing experience. If Halo 4 does what Reach tried to do better, then I will enjoy it. [/quote] Yeah same. They tried something new and it sucked. A few other games come to mind. I support the "1.5" type of sequels if you know what I mean, as long as there's enough new cohesive material.[/quote] Hold on a second, I didn't realize it was November 6 and that you had played the game. Have you really played the game? And a better question is why do make such biased accusations when, even though the game is gold, its not out yet? Besides its seems that 343i have actually taken the time to balance out the game more than Reach.
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I think it's not going to be the same of course but we shouldn't judge the game right now. 1 more month to go until I get my hands on that game!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GodZillla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Flaming Wombat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OdorousLicense3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zanir [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MickelPickel The game is gold. No use complaining now; nothing will be changed between now and November 6th.[/quote] Finally, I can sleep safe tonight knowing blind fanboys exist.[/quote]FTFY[/quote] I'm pretty sure being 'gold' is synonymous to 'the game is already done and no changes can be made."[/quote] i think they still test after it goes gold [/quote] Nothing dramatic.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Flaming Wombat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OdorousLicense3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zanir [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MickelPickel The game is gold. No use complaining now; nothing will be changed between now and November 6th.[/quote] Finally, I can sleep safe tonight knowing blind fanboys exist.[/quote]FTFY[/quote] I'm pretty sure being 'gold' is synonymous to 'the game is already done and no changes can be made."[/quote] i think they still test after it goes gold
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OdorousLicense3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zanir [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MickelPickel The game is gold. No use complaining now; nothing will be changed between now and November 6th.[/quote] Finally, I can sleep safe tonight knowing blind fanboys exist.[/quote]FTFY[/quote] I'm pretty sure being 'gold' is synonymous to 'the game is already done and no changes can be made."
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OdorousLicense3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zanir [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MickelPickel The game is gold. No use complaining now; nothing will be changed between now and November 6th.[/quote] Finally, I can sleep safe tonight knowing blind fanboys exist.[/quote]FTFY[/quote] What does tyhis mean
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Except texture co lours...the grass was apparently to green on one map...i forget which one...Exiled maybe. *edit-this was in reply to someone saying that nothing else would be changed in the game...apparently i forgot to quote them. [Edited on 10.04.2012 1:08 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zanir [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MickelPickel The game is gold. No use complaining now; nothing will be changed between now and November 6th.[/quote] Finally, I can sleep safe tonight knowing blind fanboys exist.[/quote]FTFY
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] swvjdirector [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV I hate this forum so much. Not because of you op, but because of these stupid replies. You are 100% correct and these halo fanboys don't want to hear it. [/quote] I agree with this and you, OP. But I'm also not sure what the point of this is. If people are excited for something, just let them be. Don't ruin their fun.[/quote] The post above yours answers it!
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This. Play it first. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Make117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 Halo 4 is Halo Reach[/quote]No it's not. /thread[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV I hate this forum so much. Not because of you op, but because of these stupid replies. You are 100% correct and these halo fanboys don't want to hear it. [/quote] I agree with this and you, OP. But I'm also not sure what the point of this is. If people are excited for something, just let them be. Don't ruin their fun.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarthMike431 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 ^ bump[/quote] Was that really necessary? [/quote] It's fun to read opposing viewpoints.
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These threads are still going? [i]sigh..[/i]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 ^ bump[/quote] Was that really necessary?
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^ bump
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QFT maang :)))))))))))
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KaTaNaSaMuRaI09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THOMSY99 I do think Halo 4 will be much like REACH. But I like to look at it this way. Look at Halo 3 and Halo 2. Halo 3 was Halo 2 improved. Lets just hope Halo 4, is Halo REACH improved. And we can all be happy. I was hoping that Halo 4, would be Halo 3 imrpoved. Which would had been amazing, so lets hope this Halo 4 can do as well as Halo 3 if not better. It deserves to.[/quote] I agree. Good positive thinking. It's just that the turn Reach took with the series is a permanent stay away from the main formula that entailed the first 3.[/quote] Halo 4 looks like Halo 2 with Reach elements, but better implemented IMO. And the core gameplay looks like an improved Halo 2, and the aiming is actually skillful, unlike Halo 2's. Halo 4 will be the best Halo yet! I personally thought Halo 3 was a slower downgraded version of Halo 2 with bad story (in comparison) and bad maps (in comparison), but hey at least, it doesn't have those glitches, and modders Halo 2 had, and atleast it doesn't have tons of aim assist, bullet magnetism, and large hitboxes. But overall Halo 2 is my favorite Halo game.[/quote] Not having "tons of aim assist, bullet magnetism, and large hitboxes is part of what made Halo 3 feel "slower." But I can't imagine how it would classify the game as a downgrade. Halo 2's gameplay felt really unpolished and rigid giving. Halo 3 just improved every aspect, IMO. I said something similar in a previous post. but w.e [quote]The real difference between Halo 2 and Halo 3 is that Halo 3 was all around more polished. It simply improved everything that Halo 2 offered, and expanded. Hit boxes were fixed (more exact), aim assist toned down, no bullet magnetism, cleaner motions, and it just felt all around more dynamic. Halo 2 felt rigid in the sense that gameplay was inflexible and less dynamic. The smallest things like a little recoil of a sniper shot in Halo 3 aggregate to make an all around better feel. It's just...cleaner. Hard to describe, really. So in the end, if someone who has never played Halo 3, played Halo 2, they would end up preferring Halo 3 to Halo Reach once they've given each a shot. They are much more similar in game design and mechanics when compared to Reach. Going from Halo 3 to Halo 2 might feel like a drop back but going from any of the Halos to Halo Reach is just skipping to another series really.[/quote] ^ a previous post I made in this thread. [Edited on 10.03.2012 9:08 PM PDT]
