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8/25/2012 12:12:59 PM
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Halo CE With Linda.
Title for Reference.
So I was playing Halo CEA last night and saw on the monitors of where John was kept in cryo there was also a second Spartan whos vital signs were flat lined. Without having to look at the name I knew it was Linda and it made me think. How would the events of Halo CE unfolded had Linda not been wounded so grievously aboard Gamma Station? Would she have gone with the Master Chief during his missions around Halo? Or would she have stayed with the ODST's and eventually die with them aboard the Truth and Reconciliation?
If she followed the Chief, would she have been transported around Halo alongside the Master Chief by 343GS? Having two Reclaimers to get the Index sounds better than one.
Discuss.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] switch 104 sv Care to elaborate? The Chief survived. Is he somehow unaffected by the laws of physics?[/quote] If I had to conjecture, it would be because Chief and Linda would be simultaneously bouncing around the pod... probably wouldn't work out well for either of them.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog She would have died in the lifeboat crash.[/quote] How do you know that?[/quote] Science.[/quote] Care to elaborate? The Chief survived. Is he somehow unaffected by the laws of physics?
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That would be really cool, I do wish she would have been in the game.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost All I can say for sure is that they would be unconscious a lot longer. :P[/quote] If Linda did join the Chief then they might not have been in the same life boat. Who knows, she could've gotten on board another one and crashed the same way the boat the Chief was in did and then you meet up with her later on in the level Halo. It would work for both single player and multiplayer where the second player would play as Linda and hold off the Covenant that are surrounding the downed life boat whilst the first player, who is playing as the Chief, has to get to her. Like at the beginning of Halo 3: ODST when you're playing 4 player Co-Op Campaign, each player starts somewhere else a distance apart from one another.[/quote]Yeah I suppose that's true. That'd make more sense. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote]It'd be pretty interesting having to fight an army of Covies at the beginning with her. In fact, I think I'd like to mod that into the campaign just to see how badass it would be.[/quote] Go for it I say xD If you did do that then I would love to see the outcome.[/quote]Well I did some searching yesterday and it's one heck of an encounter to find. I might have to ask about it. It's already [url=http://www.modhalo.net/index.php?/topic/31165-the-eschaton-marine-ai-guide/]a pain in the ass[/url] to find just the marine encounters (I would have died if I had done this). Now imagine looking for a single Grunt encounter. It's hell. As for Linda, there might be a way to get the Spartan AI to follow me using Custom Edition console commands...[/quote]Do it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost All I can say for sure is that they would be unconscious a lot longer. :P[/quote] If Linda did join the Chief then they might not have been in the same life boat. Who knows, she could've gotten on board another one and crashed the same way the boat the Chief was in did and then you meet up with her later on in the level Halo. It would work for both single player and multiplayer where the second player would play as Linda and hold off the Covenant that are surrounding the downed life boat whilst the first player, who is playing as the Chief, has to get to her. Like at the beginning of Halo 3: ODST when you're playing 4 player Co-Op Campaign, each player starts somewhere else a distance apart from one another.[/quote]Yeah I suppose that's true. That'd make more sense. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote]It'd be pretty interesting having to fight an army of Covies at the beginning with her. In fact, I think I'd like to mod that into the campaign just to see how badass it would be.[/quote] Go for it I say xD If you did do that then I would love to see the outcome.[/quote]Well I did some searching yesterday and it's one heck of an encounter to find. I might have to ask about it. It's already [url=http://www.modhalo.net/index.php?/topic/31165-the-eschaton-marine-ai-guide/]a pain in the ass[/url] to find just the marine encounters (I would have died if I had done this). Now imagine looking for a single Grunt encounter. It's hell. As for Linda, there might be a way to get the Spartan AI to follow me using Custom Edition console commands... [Edited on 08.28.2012 12:27 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog She would have died in the lifeboat crash.[/quote] How do you know that?[/quote] Science.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost All I can say for sure is that they would be unconscious a lot longer. :P[/quote] If Linda did join the Chief then they might not have been in the same life boat. Who knows, she could've gotten on board another one and crashed the same way the boat the Chief was in did and then you meet up with her later on in the level Halo. It would work for both single player and multiplayer where the second player would play as Linda and hold off the Covenant that are surrounding the downed life boat whilst the first player, who is playing as the Chief, has to get to her. Like at the beginning of Halo 3: ODST when you're playing 4 player Co-Op Campaign, each player starts somewhere else a distance apart from one another. [quote]It'd be pretty interesting having to fight an army of Covies at the beginning with her. In fact, I think I'd like to mod that into the campaign just to see how badass it would be.[/quote] Go for it I say xD If you did do that then I would love to see the outcome. [Edited on 08.28.2012 3:51 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog She would have died in the lifeboat crash.[/quote] How do you know that? Also, consider the fact that, if she was active during the Halo event, she might have [i]not[/i] of gotten on the lifeboat, she could have still been on the Pillar of Autumn when Keyes took manual control and crashed it on the Halo ring.[/quote][url=http://forums.halo.xbox.com/yaf_postst42249_THE-REAL-REASON-MARINES-DIED-IN-Chiefs-ESCAPE-POD.aspx]Read this[/url]. Personally, I think she'd survive.[/quote] Of course she'd survive if she were in an escape pod. The Chief did so I see no reason as to why she wouldn't.[/quote]All I can say for sure is that they would be unconscious a lot longer. :P It'd be pretty interesting having to fight an army of Covies at the beginning with her. In fact, I think I'd like to mod that into the campaign just to see how badass it would be.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog She would have died in the lifeboat crash.[/quote] How do you know that? Also, consider the fact that, if she was active during the Halo event, she might have [i]not[/i] of gotten on the lifeboat, she could have still been on the Pillar of Autumn when Keyes took manual control and crashed it on the Halo ring.[/quote][url=http://forums.halo.xbox.com/yaf_postst42249_THE-REAL-REASON-MARINES-DIED-IN-Chiefs-ESCAPE-POD.aspx]Read this[/url]. Personally, I think she'd survive.[/quote] Of course she'd survive if she were in an escape pod. The Chief did so I see no reason as to why she wouldn't.
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Well since my gf always played/plays Halo CEA and Halo CE with me, I just pretend she's Linda... With a manly in game voice.
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I always imagined the co-op Spartan was Linda.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog She would have died in the lifeboat crash.[/quote] How do you know that? Also, consider the fact that, if she was active during the Halo event, she might have [i]not[/i] of gotten on the lifeboat, she could have still been on the Pillar of Autumn when Keyes took manual control and crashed it on the Halo ring.[/quote][url=http://forums.halo.xbox.com/yaf_postst42249_THE-REAL-REASON-MARINES-DIED-IN-Chiefs-ESCAPE-POD.aspx]Read this[/url]. Personally, I think she'd survive. [Edited on 08.27.2012 7:18 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lime013 Co-op will answer your questions.[/quote] Also could have saved Cpt. Keyes life. Just like in Reach, they would have been split in two teams to cover more terrain, she would have been with Keyes, saved him from the flood and who knows. [Edited on 08.27.2012 2:09 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog She would have died in the lifeboat crash.[/quote] How do you know that? Also, consider the fact that, if she was active during the Halo event, she might have [i]not[/i] of gotten on the lifeboat, she could have still been on the Pillar of Autumn when Keyes took manual control and crashed it on the Halo ring. [Edited on 08.27.2012 1:42 PM PDT]
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She would have died in the lifeboat crash.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TilledMule9946 Maybe... Johnson is secretly Linda! It's a conspiracy![/quote] I think, just maybe, you're on to something. This. Could. Be. Massive!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 Sure, maybe their armor wouldn't have withstood the plasma barrage by the waves of phantoms[/quote]Oh it would have. They are damage sponges. Honestly, I don't see why Bungie couldn't just put infinitely spawning marines up there like on The Storm, when the Scarab arrived and there were 2 unmanned missile pod turrets. The least Emile could have done is hand over his shotgun. I think his death would be much better with fists than killing a single Elite and gloating about it. [Edited on 08.27.2012 3:08 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CoolCJ24 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost ...I'd have a gunner on The Maw![/quote] Implying that Linda wouldn't be crouched on the back sniping everything casually - Banshees, Elites, Grunts, Flood... Wait, technically, Linda could have saved Echo 419 by sniping the Banshees that were chasing Foehammer! :o[/quote]Magnetized? Is it even possible to snipe Banshee pilots out in CE? How about grenade sticks? I think [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7dLgpYwkc0#t=2m10s]that'd be even more amazing[/url]. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HipiO7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost Keyes would be less scarier[/quote] Keyes is teh best level in any Halo, IMO. The fights between Flood and the Spec Ops Covenant was just amazing... especially on Legendary when grenades started going off in chain reaction in the extreme tight corridors.[/quote]Exactly why it's so scary. It's even scarier when Grunt Funeral is turned on. [Edited on 08.27.2012 3:06 AM PDT]
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She'd most likely be with John, but then that's a whole change in events of the Halo Trilogy so far. She could have died in any one of the games.
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I imagine she would have stayed with the Chief until they found Keyes, then it is likely she would have accompanied the Captain while the Chief went to unlock the Cartographer.
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Maybe... Johnson is secretly Linda! It's a conspiracy!
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I wonder the same kind of thing regarding Noble Team, OP, and a lot of it stems off of this:[quote]when there was about a dozen Marines with him...[/quote]"Did they really need a Spartan to do that? Did an armored super soldier that took billions of dollars to train, equip, and augment [i]really[/i] have to stay behind to press a button to sabotage a Covenant corvette? Were all of the marines dead? Why do [i]all[/i] of the marines end up dying when fighting alongside Spartans? If they didn't die, couldn't they have looked around and asked, "Is there anyone here who doesn't have much to lose, [i]isn't[/i] a cyborg death-dealing machine, and would like t die a hero?" Same goes with Emile and Noble Six; couldn't one of the marines accompanying Captain Keyes have gotten out and manned the gun? It's not like they had to take on Covenant infantry or anything. Sure, maybe their armor wouldn't have withstood the plasma barrage by the waves of phantoms, but if we go by novel lore and not adjustments made for gameplay, a Spartan wouldn't have lasted very long either. I wonder how different the Battle of Installation 04 would have been had the UNSC used their vital personnel for equally vital and suitable objectives. Also, what if Kat had survived? Do you think she would have accompanied Carter, Emile, and Six to the Pillar of Autumn, or would she have gone with Jun to escort Halsey to CASTLE Base? Personally, my money goes on Halsey. Tactically, another Spartan gives Jun and Halsey more of a fighting chance, and Kat's place as Noble's de facto tech expert seems like it would be of more use in Halsey's company. How would she have effected the events in [i]First Strike[/i]? Would she have (presumably) died alongside Jun, or would she have stayed back as Halsey's personal guard? If the latter, how would that have played into the ship to ship combat in the warped slipspace bubble, or Unyielding Hierophant? Would more S-IIs be alive? Anyway, it's a lot of 'what-ifs,' and there really isn't any point in dwelling on them, but why not?
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I'm seeing a lot of alternate possibilities if Linda had been around. I think a non canon alternate story (in game format) would have been cool.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Alpha00 In game, she's referred to as "player two." [/quote] That would have been awesome if Bungie had had the foresight to name Player Two Linda and give her own voice and lines back in Combat Evolved as an alternate story. I'm not saying she would go off on her own, but certain scenes would change.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CoolCJ24 I reckon she'd have been with Chief the whole time, Spartans tend to stick together. It would have made for an awesome twist on the original story, though Linda's sniper would have been useless against the Flood. O.O[/quote]This.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost Keyes would be less scarier[/quote] Keyes is teh best level in any Halo, IMO. The fights between Flood and the Spec Ops Covenant was just amazing... especially on Legendary when grenades started going off in chain reaction in the extreme tight corridors.
