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8/20/2012 12:34:48 AM
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James Holmes. Your opinion on his punishment.
Lets keep this a clean discussion, although what this guy did was terrible.
Documentary about the events of the day and wondered about what other people besides myself think on what they think would be appropriate punishment.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrR46 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tha man Oh wait you're right! Kill someone swiftly! Not torture someone for years without communication of the outside world and deprive them of their freedom![/quote] Uh, yeah. Torture's unnecessary and helps no one. [quote]When you kill someone this insane, he probably wants to die. Give him the opposite of what he wants, no rights, no freedom, no social experiences forever.[/quote] I don't care what he wants. An eternity of decomposing in a cemetery is the most severe punishment available. Give it to him and put this all in the past. [quote]LOL trying to bring up the taxpayer.[/quote] Why the hell should taxpayers bankroll some loopy, unnecessary form of punishment just to satisfy the general public's bloodlust?[/quote] I meant torture mentally. I don't believe in the idea of killing. What makes you the arbiter of who deserves to die or not. What if James Holmes was related to you?What if he was your brother? Would you be willing to kill someone you loved? No. It's wrong to take a person's life regardless. No man should dictate when it is someone's turn to die. If you support his execution would it make a difference in the world or in this country? No. It will not and it hasn't. You want to focus your anger on a mentally sick man rather then stricter regulation/rules on guns or security for stores then you evade the problem. Death is no severe punishment. Especially if it's court ordered. There is no fear of death, he wants it. His death would be and have to legally be quick and "usual". Having him in a padded cell would make him regret his action, it would haunt him forever what he did. Like I said, people who bring up taxes, it's just dumb to debate. [quote] Why the hell should taxpayers bankroll some loopy, unnecessary form of punishment just to satisfy the general public's bloodlust?[/quote] This statement makes no sense. Didn't you advocate for his death? Aren't you advocating for bloodlust? I wasn't. Let him rot. That's not a bloodlust to let someone be forever alone in prison. Do you know it's expensive as hell to have someone on death row? Do you know how expensive it is every time the chair is activated? You want to complain about how your mom and dad's tax money is going to prisoners? Do something about it. Advocate for heavier regulation on things like guns, ensure stores have better security, advocate for people to have more mental check ups to ensure nuts like Holmes don't exist.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Aang the Avatar [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Aang the Avatar [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bradleigh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReliantSquare @JaketheSnake34 what, would you rather tax payer money pay for his living expenses for the rest of his life? Would you rather we euthanize him after what he did? I say, what is wrong with you. If we treated criminals as they treated their victims crimes would be less severe[/quote]Someone is unaware of the fact that giving someone the death penalty costs way more than keeping him in prison or a mental institution.[/quote] Funny what you can do with a few drums of oil and a couple of bullets. And you wanna know the best part about them? [i]They're cheap[/i][/quote]No cruel or unusual punishment. Try again.[/quote] It's a Joker quote. I thought it fit the situation.[/quote] You know, I think death by firing squad is still legal
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I think he should be sent to a mental health facility, where he belongs.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Slothful Koala No sane person lights up a full movie theater with an assault rifle. [/quote]This is an extremely arguable statement. I prefer to say that no [i]moral[/i] person would do that. A sane person could do that, but be quite immoral. Because some people really do just want to watch the world burn. (I didn't want to use a Batman quote, but it fit so well in my argument.)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sepian1148 Life in solitary. Let him consider his actions for all eternity[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tha man Oh wait you're right! Kill someone swiftly! Not torture someone for years without communication of the outside world and deprive them of their freedom![/quote] Uh, yeah. Torture's unnecessary and helps no one. [quote]When you kill someone this insane, he probably wants to die. Give him the opposite of what he wants, no rights, no freedom, no social experiences forever.[/quote] I don't care what he wants. An eternity of decomposing in a cemetery is the most severe punishment available. Give it to him and put this all in the past. [quote]LOL trying to bring up the taxpayer.[/quote] Why the hell should taxpayers bankroll some loopy, unnecessary form of punishment just to satisfy the general public's bloodlust? [Edited on 08.19.2012 7:01 PM PDT]
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No sane person lights up a full movie theater with an assault rifle.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Aang the Avatar [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bradleigh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReliantSquare @JaketheSnake34 what, would you rather tax payer money pay for his living expenses for the rest of his life? Would you rather we euthanize him after what he did? I say, what is wrong with you. If we treated criminals as they treated their victims crimes would be less severe[/quote]Someone is unaware of the fact that giving someone the death penalty costs way more than keeping him in prison or a mental institution.[/quote] Funny what you can do with a few drums of oil and a couple of bullets. And you wanna know the best part about them? [i]They're cheap[/i][/quote]No cruel or unusual punishment. Try again.[/quote] It's a Joker quote. I thought it fit the situation. [Edited on 08.19.2012 6:48 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Aang the Avatar [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bradleigh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReliantSquare @JaketheSnake34 what, would you rather tax payer money pay for his living expenses for the rest of his life? Would you rather we euthanize him after what he did? I say, what is wrong with you. If we treated criminals as they treated their victims crimes would be less severe[/quote]Someone is unaware of the fact that giving someone the death penalty costs way more than keeping him in prison or a mental institution.[/quote] Funny what you can do with a few drums of oil and a couple of bullets. And you wanna know the best part about them? [i]They're cheap[/i][/quote] Why would you need drums of oil if you have bullets? Also, the avatar would never say that! ALSO, you're no better than James Holmes if you're suggesting we kill someone.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Aang the Avatar [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bradleigh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReliantSquare @JaketheSnake34 what, would you rather tax payer money pay for his living expenses for the rest of his life? Would you rather we euthanize him after what he did? I say, what is wrong with you. If we treated criminals as they treated their victims crimes would be less severe[/quote]Someone is unaware of the fact that giving someone the death penalty costs way more than keeping him in prison or a mental institution.[/quote] Funny what you can do with a few drums of oil and a couple of bullets. And you wanna know the best part about them? [i]They're cheap[/i][/quote]No cruel or unusual punishment. Try again.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Trigger n0 737 Death Penalty[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bradleigh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReliantSquare @JaketheSnake34 what, would you rather tax payer money pay for his living expenses for the rest of his life? Would you rather we euthanize him after what he did? I say, what is wrong with you. If we treated criminals as they treated their victims crimes would be less severe[/quote]Someone is unaware of the fact that giving someone the death penalty costs way more than keeping him in prison or a mental institution.[/quote] Funny what you can do with a few drums of oil and a couple of bullets. And you wanna know the best part about them? [i]They're cheap[/i]
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He welcomes death. Wishes it upon himself. His punishment, must be more severe.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bradleigh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReliantSquare @JaketheSnake34 what, would you rather tax payer money pay for his living expenses for the rest of his life? Would you rather we euthanize him after what he did? I say, what is wrong with you. If we treated criminals as they treated their victims crimes would be less severe[/quote]Someone is unaware of the fact that giving someone the death penalty costs way more than keeping him in prison or a mental institution.[/quote]^^^^^^^^^ We have a winner.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReliantSquare @JaketheSnake34 what, would you rather tax payer money pay for his living expenses for the rest of his life? Would you rather we euthanize him after what he did? I say, what is wrong with you. If we treated criminals as they treated their victims crimes would be less severe[/quote]Someone is unaware of the fact that giving someone the death penalty costs way more than keeping him in prison or a mental institution.
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Higher score then Cho... all I got to say LOL.
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I think solitary in a pitch black room for the rest of his life.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pure Evil_616 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tha man [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pure Evil_616 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tha man This thread seriously pisses me off. Especially the people who say "hur derp I wan meh 2nd amendment rightz" But then you guys ignore the 8th Admendment. Saying stuff like shoot him in the body then beat him to death? lol. You can't have it both ways. I think being miserable in jail for the rest of his life is fair. My opinion: if you want to end someone's life, think this: could you do it? Could you honestly kill someone? [/quote]Where did anyone start talking about their rights? This thread has nothing to do with them. [/quote] Have you read any Posts in this thread? People are saying to do these cruel and unusual punishments to a human. I know he's a monster but half of you guys keep trying to justify killing a mentally sick man unusually. [/quote]I was referring to the 2nd Amendment part. Unless I missed a post, I didn't see anyone complain about it.[/quote] Not this thread but after the shooting, all these 2nd Admendment rights threads popped up.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sepian1148 Life in solitary. Let him consider his actions for all eternity[/quote]
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I'm not a fan of the death penalty in any situation.
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ITT: People who don't understand the definition of cruel and unusual punishment.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tha man [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pure Evil_616 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tha man This thread seriously pisses me off. Especially the people who say "hur derp I wan meh 2nd amendment rightz" But then you guys ignore the 8th Admendment. Saying stuff like shoot him in the body then beat him to death? lol. You can't have it both ways. I think being miserable in jail for the rest of his life is fair. My opinion: if you want to end someone's life, think this: could you do it? Could you honestly kill someone? [/quote]Where did anyone start talking about their rights? This thread has nothing to do with them. [/quote] Have you read any Posts in this thread? People are saying to do these cruel and unusual punishments to a human. I know he's a monster but half of you guys keep trying to justify killing a mentally sick man unusually. [/quote]I was referring to the 2nd Amendment part. Unless I missed a post, I didn't see anyone complain about it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrR46 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tha man I think being miserable in jail for the rest of his life is fair. [/quote] Yes, let's make the public cough up even more unnecessary tax dollars to keep this clown in a jail cell for the next 50 or 60 years. Brilliant! As I said, pay some thug to knock him off in the street or something. He won't be hurting anyone else, and he gets the ultimate punishment with death. Everybody wins.[/quote] Oh wait you're right! Kill someone swiftly! Not torture someone for years without communication of the outside world and deprive them of their freedom! When you kill someone this insane, he probably wants to die. Give him the opposite of what he wants, no rights, no freedom, no social experiences forever. LOL trying to bring up the taxpayer.
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Life in prison. Death is too easy.
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Either A) drop him with nothing into the antartic Or B) take him and put him in the US's most congested prison and offer a 10 lift on any inmate who successfully brings his head to the wardens office, if the on death row, there sentence is commuted to life, if life without parole, commuted life with parole
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pure Evil_616 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tha man This thread seriously pisses me off. Especially the people who say "hur derp I wan meh 2nd amendment rightz" But then you guys ignore the 8th Admendment. Saying stuff like shoot him in the body then beat him to death? lol. You can't have it both ways. I think being miserable in jail for the rest of his life is fair. My opinion: if you want to end someone's life, think this: could you do it? Could you honestly kill someone? [/quote]Where did anyone start talking about their rights? This thread has nothing to do with them. [/quote] Have you read any Posts in this thread? People are saying to do these cruel and unusual punishments to a human. I know he's a monster but half of you guys keep trying to justify killing a mentally sick man unusually.
